Colorado state convention thread

[PaulSoHard]

Wait why are some people still saying that Ron will have a plurality?

 

[cevans93]

Because, without getting into specifics, most of the "unpledged" and even "Santorum" delegates were ours.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Just got home from the convention. It was adjourned long before results were posted (room had to be vacated for another event). Sad to see the news of the results though. I'll post more later. So tired right now....

Monotaur! We want news! Someone from Colorado?

 

[shishka]

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/91b58e44ed23469aa20191f892af4261/CO--GOP-Assembly/

See, this was what I was afraid of: even if Paul were to get 13 delegates, the public will never know about it because the news sources will report those delegates as "unpledged". His name won't even get mentioned. We don't get the credit, the publicity and, thus, any momentum of sucess in the public eye.

I'm sorry, we not only need to figure how to win plurality, but opinion. This ain't cuttin' it.

 

[wgadget]

Here's a report from the Denver Post...LOL

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20398638/politics

 

[Wolfgang Bohringer]

You need that if you have candidates no one can get passionate about. I don't see why our candidates should need it.

You disagree with this?

Primaries are easier, but we're much better at getting delegates through the caucus process.

 

[sailingaway]

You disagree with this?

I agree with you. I think tbone plans to support candidates that won't interest people and will require primaries.

 

[seawolf]

So pretty much based on everything we know now, we did much better that the beauty contest earlier in the Primary season, but with only 13 out of 36 delegates not nearly enough to gain for a plurality. So we will not be able to count Colorado as one of the five States we must have to have Ron nominated for President in Tampa.

Disappointing, but thank you to all in Colorado for fighting hard!!! We all need to look to other States to make up the five!!!

 

[Travlyr]

Monotaur! We want news! Someone from Colorado?

Ron Paul supporters were the majority. The status quo knew that and they didn't like it, but they accepted it. I was there. The Colorado Ron Paul team was very organized and the Romney team was disorganized but still a force because all the wealthy people support him.

 

[sailingaway]

Ron Paul supporters were the majority. The status quo knew that and they didn't like it, but they accepted it. I was there. The Colorado Ron Paul team was very organized and the Romney team was disorganized but still a force because all the wealthy people support him.

then how would we lose? Lack of voting discipline for the top of the slate?

 

[shishka]

I thought wealth couldn't be an issue with caucuses?

 

[rb3b3]

Something stinks in Colorado I'm telling you all now!!! Something is up !! This is just a hunch but I feelit because it doesn't make sense!

 

[DonovanJames]

I haven't been following the thread and I am scared to scroll back a few 10 pages.. what has happened to cause such disarm among the RPF?

 

[rodo1776]

At a convention you have these possibilities basically:

1) You have 50.01% of seated voting delegates at each vote and you have organized well in advance and have a SLATE. All your delegates know what’s up and who to vote for and you have an organization of captains at each lower level delegation like CDs at state or counties etc to pass along voting info during the convention. We saw this in Missouri I think. You have people educated in Roberts’s rules of order to deflect the hack GOPers. Also you run fake candidates, print up fake slates and do whatever level of misinformation you can live with. But your people know what to do and how to vote.

2) You have less than 50% seated voting delegates and you still have a good organization and everyone knows what to do when and vote for your slate. You still run misinformation. You also cut deals with other candidates as needed and get a percentage of delegates or still can sweep all delegates if you get lucky and are organized well.

3) You get beat or not do as well as hoped. But you learn for next time. We mostly I think did this option in 08.

So if we did not take Colorado it was probably option 3 or some variation. But we still did much better than 4 years ago. And we did better than the beauty contest primary.
Robert Nemy ‏ @RobertNemy Reply Retweet Favorite • Open
Corruption from the Romney camp.Wins 8 del despite majority pro Ron Paul crowd.Rigged count. How can they vote for such a fraud? #copolitics

If the above tweet is true then we screwed up and hopefully learn for next time. No way can they rig the ballot count if we have observers in the room where they count. I doubt any fraud occurred. We got beat evidently by not having a clean slate and making sure our delegates voted properly if we had majority RP crowd.
Read the link posted above
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20398638/politics

The Romney folks overnight got their slate together and stuck with it. We evidently did not do as well. Live and learn and keep fighting for next time. All in all it was a good result if we are sending delegates to Tampa from Colorado. Thanks to all of you who put in the work to get this done.

 

[Agorism]

Even when we win like Nevada in 2008, they still cheat.

Same with ND and Colorado this year it seems.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Ron Paul supporters were the majority. The status quo knew that and they didn't like it, but they accepted it. I was there. The Colorado Ron Paul team was very organized and the Romney team was disorganized but still a force because all the wealthy people support him.

WHAT!/!?!?!? How is it possible to

• Have a majority of out-and-out Ron Paul supporters,
• PLUS, have an alliance between the Santorum Colorado and Ron Paul Colorado teams,
• And still lose?

You've got to give us some details here, Travlyr. Are you sure we had a majority?

 

[Travlyr]

then how would we lose? Lack of voting discipline for the top of the slate?

No. The top slate was very clear and highly reinforced by the campaign team clear through the vote. All the Ron Paul supporters I talked to knew exactly who to support. I don't know what is going on.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Thank you thank you thank you, by the way, Travlyr. Keep the info coming!

 

[Agorism]

So when does Rand Paul endorse Romney?

 

[Travlyr]

WHAT!/!?!?!? How is it possible to

• Have a majority of out-and-out Ron Paul supporters,
• PLUS, have an alliance between the Santorum Colorado and Ron Paul Colorado teams,
• And still lose?

You've got to give us some details here, Travlyr. Are you sure we had a majority?

Yes. I am sure we had a majority of grass roots. The status quo is very strong and very much against Ron Paul. I do not have any evidence of fraud, but the Ron Paul support was very strong like the crowds he draws.