College Student I.D.'s no longer valid for voting!

[Marc]

You now need official state I.D.'s for voting according to this new news video where they interview Heather Smith, president of Rock The Vote. So if you move from one state to another to join a college, get a local state I.D. or your vote will not be allowed in 15 states.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fZGPVyqlvY&feature=player_embedded

For more information go here: http://www.rockthevote.com/campaigns/suppression/

 

[sailingaway]

Only in certain states, I think. I noticed South Carolina needed it, but it didn't say Iowa in the youtube I saw. Still, everyone should make sure what ID they need.

On your second link, only the states in red require it. I can kinda see why they do it, since you don't have to be a citizen to be a student, but they should have an easy way to deal with it.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

 

[kylejack]

On your second link, only the states in red require it. I can kinda see why they do it, since you don't have to be a citizen to be a student, but they should have an easy way to deal with it.

You have to be a citizen to register to vote. And you don't have to be a citizen to get a driver's license.

 

[Carole]

So is this something new? Has the campaign kept current with the young people and volunteers on this? Or is it a commonly known fact?

No need to answer as these are rhetorical. Just out loud thinking.

 

[kylejack]

I find it really annoying, because my Texas driver's license expired quite some time ago and I'm now going to have to pay to be able to vote. There's supposedly some kind of free voting certificate I can get, but it's hard to find the information about how I get that. The new voter ID requirement starts next year.

 

[sailingaway]

You have to be a citizen to register to vote. And you don't have to be a citizen to get a driver's license.

actually, that is true. I had some idea there was citizen stuff in ours (I'm in Ca.) they have all sorts of biometric stuff in it now, it is thick.

 

[jmdrake]

You have to be a citizen to register to vote. And you don't have to be a citizen to get a driver's license.

+rep. This isn't about fighting voter fraud. It's about getting people used to the idea of having to have a federally approved ID to do anything in this country. It's sad that so many in the liberty movement are uninformed about the dangers all of the increasing "government sponsored picture ID for everything under the sun" initiatives. The NAACP is wrong about a lot of things, but they are right to oppose the new voter ID requirements.

 

[kylejack]

+rep. This isn't about fighting voter fraud. It's about getting people used to the idea of having to have a federally approved ID to do anything in this country. It's sad that so many in the liberty movement are uninformed about the dangers all of the increasing "government sponsored picture ID for everything under the sun" initiatives. The NAACP is wrong about a lot of things, but they are right to oppose the new voter ID requirements.

Yep! The old standards allowed me to show my registration certificate (which they mail to me each year), or any government ID, expired or not. New standards starting next year require that it be an unexpired ID. Why?! It doesn't prove my residency status, and who cares if it is expired? I'm still the same damned person, registered on the voter registry.

I make a decent income, and just don't care about my license because I commute to work, shopping, etc via rail and my bicycle. I just prefer a lifestyle of not having to pay for license, insurance, car payment, etc. and I'm able to save a ton of money for vacation, retirement, etc.

But I think the real target of this is people living in poverty, people who can't afford to get a car and thus have no reason to pay for a license.

 

[Jingles]

I'm just doing an absentee ballet. I'm in VA, but I'm technically a PA resident.

 

[sailingaway]

Yep! The old standards allowed me to show my registration certificate (which they mail to me each year), or any government ID, expired or not. New standards starting next year require that it be an unexpired ID. Why?! It doesn't prove my residency status, and who cares if it is expired? I'm still the same damned person, registered on the voter registry.

I make a decent income, and just don't care about my license because I commute to work, shopping, etc via rail and my bicycle. I just prefer a lifestyle of not having to pay for license, insurance, car payment, etc. and I'm able to save a ton of money for vacation, retirement, etc.

But I think the real target of this is people living in poverty, people who can't afford to get a car and thus have no reason to pay for a license.

I agree. I never understood why it had to be 'unexpired' for you to cash a check, either.

 

[erowe1]

That's the way it is here in Indiana. It's a good rule IMHO.

 

[ds21089]

Sounds like an attempt to lower the younger voter turnout. Gee, who would that affect the most?

 

[Unknown.User]

National ID Act.


Only those in the system will be allowed a voice, since once in the system your voice can be silenced.

 

[Apparition]

This is a tough issue... on the one hand, I can see how this would prevent a lot of the voter fraud that occurs, which mainly helps Democrats to be honest.
But on the other hand, it's tough for me to advocate having to have a valid state ID because it's a cost to the poor and requires a listed address, both of which should not be a requirement for a citizen to vote.

 

[jmdrake]

That's the way it is here in Indiana. It's a good rule IMHO.

Why exactly? What benefit is this rule other than to force through a national ID card? It doesn't prevent double voting any better than the old system. It does nothing to stop people from voting in two different states with two different state approved ID cards. If you want to stop "dead" voters, clear the rolls periodically.

 

[kylejack]

A poll or head tax is one imposed equally on all adults at the time of voting and is not affected by property ownership or income. The poll tax was used in the South during and after Reconstruction as a means of circumventing the 14th Amendment and denying civil rights to blacks. This form of taxation gradually fell out of favor in the South in the mid-20th century, but it was not until the adoption of the 24th Amendment that poll taxes were made illegal as a prerequisite for voting in federal elections. That same prohibition was later extended to all elections.

http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h425.html

 

[erowe1]

Why exactly? What benefit is this rule other than to force through a national ID card? It doesn't prevent double voting any better than the old system. It does nothing to stop people from voting in two different states with two different state approved ID cards. If you want to stop "dead" voters, clear the rolls periodically.

You shouldn't be able to vote in multiple different states' primaries. You should pick a state, and register to vote there and nowhere else.

We don't need a national ID to do this in Indiana. In fact, one of the loopholes they have in our law is that they allow voters to use national ID cards, such as passports, which I don't think should be allowed.

 

[jmdrake]

This is a tough issue... on the one hand, I can see how this would prevent a lot of the voter fraud that occurs, which mainly helps Democrats to be honest.
But on the other hand, it's tough for me to advocate having to have a valid state ID because it's a cost to the poor and requires a listed address, both of which should not be a requirement for a citizen to vote.

If democrats are the main ones engaged in voter fraud then why is it that republicans are the ones in favor of inauditable electronic voting machines? And why were republican officials convicted of trying to rig the 2004 presidential recount? Dems may steal 1 or 2 votes at a time. Republicans steal hundreds or thousands at a time. The difference is merely one of scale and technique.

 

[jmdrake]

You shouldn't be able to vote in multiple different states' primaries. You should pick a state, and register to vote there and nowhere else.

Maybe you shouldn't. But I'm talking about reality, not wishful thinking. And the new voter ID requirements do nothing to change the reality of multiple voting. It's just like the Patriot Act does nothing to prevent real terrorism.