CNN to host town hall with Gary Johnson on June 22nd at 9 PM Eastern

TNforPaul45 said:
I hope that Johnson and Weld will get a bump from this. Wasn't it refreshing to see an intelligent, hopeful discussion of the future of the country? Keep showing the people: The two parties childish, small, and corrupt.
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where was that discussion? It wasn't coming from Johnson and Weld. All I heard from them was pandering.... Obama a statesman? Free needles for drug addicts? Hillary a great president? Really?
 
trey4sports said:
where was that discussion? It wasn't coming from Johnson and Weld.
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You didn't hear Johnson declare the Ds and Rs dinosaurs? I thought that was an excellent sound bite.

All I heard from them was pandering.... Obama a statesman? Free needles for drug addicts? Hillary a great president? Really?
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I'm sure you wanted Johnson and Weld to attack Clinton the way Trump has. But if they were to do so, they wouldn't win any converts: those who truly hate Clinton are mostly already in the Trump camp. And they would risk the ire of the MSM, which would have begun calling their attacks "sexist", as they did to Sanders when he attacked Clinton's policies.

More than a hundred news articles have been written about Johnson and Weld's appearance on CNN during the past 48 hours. Despite the heavy coverage, not a single article, as far as I know, has attacked them as "sexist", "racist", etc. They are differentiating themselves from Trump, and making themselves a credible option to those who don't really like Clinton but who would never vote for Trump.
 
RJ Liberty said:
they wouldn't win any converts: those who truly hate Clinton are mostly already in the Trump camp.
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Almost half of Sanders voters hate Hillary and they are trying to decide where to go. They aren't going to vote for someone who talks about how wonderful she is.

And they would risk the ire of the MSM
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I think they're more concerned about risking the ire of the NWO. Weld is going to be able to bring in a lot of money from Bushies and banksters if they think the LP campaign will help destroy Trump. The money people are not interested in any attacks on Hillary.
 
Awful.

Right now I would support Trump over a Johnson/Weld ticket.

I think they do more harm by presenting an inconsistent, watered-down and sometimes just plain inaccurate liberty message.
 
JS4Pat said:
Awful.

Right now I would support Trump over a Johnson/Weld ticket.

I think they do more harm by presenting an inconsistent, watered-down and sometimes just plain inaccurate liberty message.
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See, now that makes zero sense to me. Yeah, their liberty message sucks and they could be doing some harm to the overall movement, but Trump?!

I mean... You don't like the way someone is selling a libertarian-ish message, so you opt instead for a full-on authoritarian?! Castle, I can see, but Trump or Hillary?! Are you guys losing your minds?!
 
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LOL. People who expect these guys to spout paleocon, neo-confederate talking points are going to be a little disappointed. They're going to be taking more votes from Clinton than Trump. Polls have given good evidence of this.
 
CaptUSA said:
See, now that makes zero sense to me. Yeah, their liberty message sucks and they could be doing some harm to the overall movement, but Trump?!

I mean... You don't like the way someone is selling a libertarian-ish message, so you opt instead for a full-on authoritarian?! Castle, I can see, but Trump or Hillary?! Are you guys losing your minds?!
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I'm just weighing the cost/benefit of supporting a weak and inconsistent Libertarian candidate with cost/benefit of a potential game changer like Trump. Yes, he is an authoritarian and its risky - but if he turns the system on its head - well that might provide a better opening for liberty than the dead-end street of Johnson/Weld. Just saying...
 
JS4Pat said:
I'm just weighing the cost/benefit of supporting a weak and inconsistent Libertarian candidate with cost/benefit of a potential game changer like Trump. Yes, he is an authoritarian and its risky - but if he turns the system on its head - well that might provide a better opening for liberty than the dead-end street of Johnson/Weld. Just saying...
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wow just wow, trump is a joke. the same could of been said about hitler, he turned them on their heads alright. I'm sticking with Gary johnson over the hillaries(trump/hillary authoritarians, no messsage is perfect but garys is 1,000,000,000 times better then lying liberal trumps/hillary message). in any context!!
 
speciallyblend said:
wow just wow, trump is a joke. the same could of been said about hitler, he turned them on their heads alright. I'm sticking with Gary johnson over the hillaries(trump/hillary authoritarians, no messsage is perfect but garys is 1,000,000,000 times better then lying liberal trumps/hillary message). in any context!!
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Johnson/Weld are great if you want world government, more unvetted refugees forced upon states by the Executive branch and the State Dept, and the continued loss of industry and jobs due to rotten and traitorous trade deals. Basically, watch your country continue its spiral into a 3rd world country.

You did realize that Weld not only participated, but co-chaired the Council on Foreign Relations' Task Force, attended by reps from the U.S., Canada and Mexico called "Building a North American Community".

While he is far from perfect, Trump is the only one who is standing against this crap.
 
LibertyEagle said:
While he is far from perfect, Trump is the only one who is standing against this crap.
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You mean, until it's in his interest to completely do the opposite, right? I'm not sure how you guys are still not seeing this. Trump is about Trump - that's all. He'll make whatever deals necessary to inflate his ego.
 
trey4sports said:
where was that discussion? It wasn't coming from Johnson and Weld. All I heard from them was pandering.... Obama a statesman? Free needles for drug addicts? Hillary a great president? Really?
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I didn't like the statements, but it was refreshing in that they weren't attacking. We've heard enough of politicians bashing each other (or I have, anyway). The energy drains out of me when I hear H or T start into the other. So J/W are trying a different approach: Yes, they consider there to be a few positives to some individuals in politics. And they aren't going to dwell on the negatives. Here's what WE can do, not what the other guy/girl cannot do. By doing this, they are speaking directly to a large crowd of independents that don't have the same partisan vitriol running through their veins as most do these days.

Because the independents and the quasi-involved voter in this country is just like most of the people between the two coasts: Everything flies over them and no one ever speaks directly to them. I think Johnson and Weld are doing this. For more evidence, see their latest campaign ad that has everyone talking.
 
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