CNN Reports: Ron Paul To Take Weekend Off From Campaigning In Iowa Heading Back To Texas

sailingaway said:
I said Ron had gained. But this poll, unlike CNN, does at least make an effort to poll a real caucus population, including independents and a couple of Democrats. So it can't be written off. We have a couple of polls where Ron is in front and a couple where he isn't. I think Des Moines Register's is best and it will be out this weekend. However, none of the polls have Ron ahead of Romney outside the margin of error, and Romney is VERY GOOD at pretending he isn't organizing when he is. He ALSO has stayed organized since last time and started with more support. And a portion of the values voters are coelescing around Santorum who has not been vetted (I wonder if they know he voted for no child left behind, and to raise the debt ceiling 5 times? He has zero claim to fiscal conservatism.)
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Not attacking you persay, but definitely frustrated with the doom and gloom. I saw this in 2008 as well and people were crying in the cereal the next morning. e've got work to do, the campaign has work to do, but it's not the end of the world either. MSM will push Santorum who may not get vetted in time, but so what, he'll get vetted and he'll be out by the time the ink dries. We all know Ron Paul is on his own with this and while I too was angry with the 08 campaign, I am just as encouraged this time with the 12 campaign.
 
low preference guy said:
It's new years. Politics shouldn't get in the way of spending that time with whom you want and where you want to. What's the point of trying to improve the country if you aren't going to have a life? Good for Paul taking a rest. He isn't a sacrificial animal for the benefit of the rest of us.
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well said.
 
anewvoice said:
Not attacking you persay, but definitely frustrated with the doom and gloom. I saw this in 2008 as well and people were crying in the cereal the next morning. e've got work to do, the campaign has work to do, but it's not the end of the world either. MSM will push Santorum who may not get vetted in time, but so what, he'll get vetted and he'll be out by the time the ink dries. We all know Ron Paul is on his own with this and while I too was angry with the 08 campaign, I am just as encouraged this time with the 12 campaign.
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I agree with all of that.
 
HOLLYWOOD said:
TPM POLL just out. http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/updates/3271

TPMLivewire 12-30-2011 9:46 AM ∞ t witter

Iowa Poll: Santorum In Second

Yet another poll of Iowa shows former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum moving up in Iowa — a new We Ask America snap poll from last night shows Santorum taking second among likely attendees of Tuesday’s Republican caucuses with 17 percent. It’s the first poll to show the former senator within striking distance of the lead, as former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is first with 24 percent. Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) is third with 14, and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is fourth with 13. Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), who has slid drastically in most public polling of the state, is fifth with 12, and Texas Gov. Rick Perry gets ten.
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Reading the methodology, it seems like this is the question they asked:
“No matter who you support, which candidate do you think will ultimately be the GOP candidate for president?”
 
All evidence I have seen from real live voters shows Ron Paul is way ahead. Online polls, Facebook Likes (except today for some weird reason), bumber stickers, yard signs. Every piece of data on active voter preference makes me believe Ron Paul has stronger support than media indicates and Romney has less.

Romney is definitely the choice of everyone with a microphone. Maybe Fox News preferred Newt and now Santorum. RNC wants Romney. But those entities do not
vote. They may have money but they do not vote.

I believe that among real voters, Paul is a strong 1st, neo-con flavor of the month now Santorum is 2nd, and Romney is 3rd. Pretty soon, the media won't be able to put enough lipstick on the pig Romney's candidacy. I do not see how either Romney or Santorum can get voters out of their living rooms and into the voting booths.

In 2007-8, Romney worked extremely hard to win Iowa and Huckabee beat him 34 to 25%. But the RCP polling graph on 12/30/2007 showed it as a dead heat:

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/IA.html

Looking at that graph, it's interesting to see how McCain went from 6% to 13% in final two weeks much like Santorum. Paul looks like Huckabee who got a large lead,
watched it tighten, and then won comfortably. Romney looks like Romney again. RNC led the voters to Romney, but couldn't make them drink.

In New Hampshire 2008, McCain had nearly caught up to Romney in the polls by 12/29/2007. Huckabee just rose from 9 to 12% in NH after winning Iowa. So although
Iowa 2008 rhymes with 2012, the second verse in NH does not.
 
Forty Twice said:
All evidence I have seen from real live voters shows Ron Paul is way ahead. Online polls, Facebook Likes (except today for some weird reason), bumber stickers, yard signs. Every piece of data on active voter preference makes me believe Ron Paul has stronger support than media indicates and Romney has less.

Romney is definitely the choice of everyone with a microphone. Maybe Fox News preferred Newt and now Santorum. RNC wants Romney. But those entities do not
vote. They may have money but they do not vote.

I believe that among real voters, Paul is a strong 1st, neo-con flavor of the month now Santorum is 2nd, and Romney is 3rd. Pretty soon, the media won't be able to put enough lipstick on the pig Romney's candidacy. I do not see how either Romney or Santorum can get voters out of their living rooms and into the voting booths.

In 2007-8, Romney worked extremely hard to win Iowa and Huckabee beat him 34 to 25%. But the RCP polling graph on 12/30/2007 showed it as a dead heat:

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/IA.html

Looking at that graph, it's interesting to see how McCain went from 6% to 13% in final two weeks much like Santorum. Paul looks like Huckabee who got a large lead,
watched it tighten, and then won comfortably. Romney looks like Romney again. RNC led the voters to Romney, but couldn't make them drink.

In New Hampshire 2008, McCain had nearly caught up to Romney in the polls by 12/29/2007. Huckabee just rose from 9 to 12% in NH after winning Iowa. So although
Iowa 2008 rhymes with 2012, the second verse in NH does not.
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Behind on facebook likes? I don't put a lot of store into that, but I see it as a vague indicator of new voters. That might unfortunately mean that for a significant portion, media is succesfully painting Santorum as the next unvetted thing. If they don't LOOK INTO Ron, it is hard to get them.
 
Forty Twice said:
All evidence I have seen from real live voters shows Ron Paul is way ahead. Online polls, Facebook Likes (except today for some weird reason), bumber stickers, yard signs. Every piece of data on active voter preference makes me believe Ron Paul has stronger support than media indicates and Romney has less.

Romney is definitely the choice of everyone with a microphone. Maybe Fox News preferred Newt and now Santorum. RNC wants Romney. But those entities do not
vote. They may have money but they do not vote.

I believe that among real voters, Paul is a strong 1st, neo-con flavor of the month now Santorum is 2nd, and Romney is 3rd. Pretty soon, the media won't be able to put enough lipstick on the pig Romney's candidacy. I do not see how either Romney or Santorum can get voters out of their living rooms and into the voting booths.

In 2007-8, Romney worked extremely hard to win Iowa and Huckabee beat him 34 to 25%. But the RCP polling graph on 12/30/2007 showed it as a dead heat:

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/IA.html

Looking at that graph, it's interesting to see how McCain went from 6% to 13% in final two weeks much like Santorum. Paul looks like Huckabee who got a large lead,
watched it tighten, and then won comfortably. Romney looks like Romney again. RNC led the voters to Romney, but couldn't make them drink.

In New Hampshire 2008, McCain had nearly caught up to Romney in the polls by 12/29/2007. Huckabee just rose from 9 to 12% in NH after winning Iowa. So although
Iowa 2008 rhymes with 2012, the second verse in NH does not.
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You would be surprised at how much hating gay people and courting hate spewing clergy can motivate people in states like Iowa and SC. Santorum people will certainly show up. Romney people not so much. To win this thing, Paul people will have to continue to be motivated, and the thing that all the media negativity has been aimed toward is softening up support for Ron.
 
low preference guy said:
It's new years. Politics shouldn't get in the way of spending that time with whom you want and where you want to. What's the point of trying to improve the country if you aren't going to have a life? Good for Paul taking a rest. He isn't a sacrificial animal for the benefit of the rest of us.
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specsaregood said:
Exactly, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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+ rep to our rocks of calm in this forumy ocean of panic.
 
I think this is fairly standard for Paul regardless of his lead...he usually doesn't work on Sunday....so, I wouldn't take this as a sign either way.
 
Well a lot of us who have been around for a while, share a superstition that whatever you are doing on New Year's Eve will carry out the entire year. So maybe he wants to spend the evening with his wife and family. I actually think it is very sweet.

Since when does CNN care what Ron Paul is doing.. They are just trying to make something negative out of anything.
 
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