CNN: Hawaii Gov. tries to end birther debate once and for all

1. Short form is proof enough.

No it isn't, it's only proof that he applied for citizenship, it isn't proof of where he was born.

The newspaper articles only proves that somebody applied for a cert. of live birth, the short form is only proof that somebody applied for it, it is not proof of where anybody was born.
 
I'm sure that if AxisMundi was sued by 100+ people and they all wanted to see his birth certificate, the last thing he would do it spend all his life savings in legal fees instead of just showing the damned thing.

If I had the millions?

You better bet your last dime I would spend millions.

There is no inherent right to look at other people's personal information.
 
No it isn't, it's only proof that he applied for citizenship, it isn't proof of where he was born.

The newspaper articles only proves that somebody applied for a cert. of live birth, the short form is only proof that somebody applied for it, it is not proof of where anybody was born.

Even Wiki knows how daft that idea is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_certificate

A short form is a certificate of birth, not an "application for citizenship", and a legal document whose information is generated by the long form. This system has been put in place by many States in an attempt to cut costs.
 
If I had the millions?

You better bet your last dime I would spend millions.

There is no inherent right to look at other people's personal information.

But you don't have the millions...so you're willing to spend your life savings in legal fees and become poor instead of showing your birth certificate?

By the way, the more money Obama spends hiding his birth certificate, the guiltier he looks.
 
But you don't have the millions...so you're willing to spend your life savings in legal fees and become poor instead of showing your birth certificate?

By the way, the more money Obama spends hiding his birth certificate, the guiltier he looks.

As I said, there is no right to look at other people's private documents.

If you don't have a damn good reason and you sue me, I would counter sue and it might end up costing YOU.

And as far as I'm concerned, the more Birthers writhe and whine, the sillier they look.
 
As I said, there is no right to look at other people's private documents.

If you don't have a damn good reason and you sue me, I would counter sue and it might end up costing YOU.

And as far as I'm concerned, the more Birthers writhe and whine, the sillier they look.

You didn't answer the question

But you don't have the millions...so you're willing to spend your life savings in legal fees and become poor instead of showing your birth certificate?

Countersuing 100+ folks is not cheap....and lawyers want to be paid upfront.
 
As I said, there is no right to look at other people's private documents.

Look, buddy, I have a right not to show my birth certificate to my employer and they have a right not to give me the job.. WE are his employer, WE are asking for his birth certificate for legal reasons under the constitution.
 
Look, buddy, I have a right not to show my birth certificate to my employer and they have a right not to give me the job.. WE are his employer, WE are asking for his birth certificate for legal reasons under the constitution.

Couldn't have said it better myself
 
If I had the millions?

You better bet your last dime I would spend millions.

There is no inherent right to look at other people's personal information.

As president, and Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, he does not get the same level of privacy as a private citizen.
 
1. Short form is proof enough.

2. It's quite simple Bruno, cite a source that are not know habitual liars.

3. I'm sure there are people easily swayed by conspiracy theories. There are also plenty of Birthers who ARE racists, haters, and indulge in political hackery.

More WND bullshit.

1. So you're not going to post that laughable short form? C'mon, post what has you so 100% convinced.

2. Obama is a habitual liar. I don't believe him, just as you don't believe WND. You continue to dismiss anything outright due to the source, without discussing the actual allegations. That is where you fail.

Btw - the same tactic is used by those to disparage Ron Paul, calling him a kook and a nut, and then the rebuttal to anything he says is, "Who said, that? Ron Paul, the one who blames American for 9/11 and wants us to be on the gold standard? Give me a break!", without ever addressing the topic or refuting the actual statements or positions he believes in .

3. No one can explain where that pesky CT SSN came from. Gibbs about fell all over himself when asked about it, trying to weasel out of the questions. Still no answers.

If I had the millions?

You better bet your last dime I would spend millions.

There is no inherent right to look at other people's personal information.

Bwahahahaaa!!! Yeah, right!! lmao. Thanks for starting my 2011 off with a great laugh!
 
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3. No one can explain where that pesky CT SSN came from. Gibbs about fell all over himself when asked about it, trying to weasel out of the questions. Still no answers.

Didn't see that...do you have a video link?
 
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Look, buddy, I have a right not to show my birth certificate to my employer and they have a right not to give me the job.. WE are his employer, WE are asking for his birth certificate for legal reasons under the constitution.

Look "buddy", you show your BC to the HR gal, not the owner.

Not only has Barry shown you his BC, the "HR" department of the g'ment has all they need.
 
1. So you're not going to post that laughable short form? C'mon, post what has you so 100% convinced.

2. Obama is a habitual liar. I don't believe him, just as you don't believe WND. You continue to dismiss anything outright due to the source, without discussing the actual allegations. That is where you fail.

Btw - the same tactic is used by those to disparage Ron Paul, calling him a kook and a nut, and then the rebuttal to anything he says is, "Who said, that? Ron Paul, the one who blames American for 9/11 and wants us to be on the gold standard? Give me a break!", without ever addressing the topic or refuting the actual statements or positions he believes in .

3. No one can explain where that pesky CT SSN came from. Gibbs about fell all over himself when asked about it, trying to weasel out of the questions. Still no answers.



Bwahahahaaa!!! Yeah, right!! lmao. Thanks for starting my 2011 off with a great laugh!

1. Proof has been supplied. It is up to you to dismantle that proof. "Nuh-uh" isn't working.
2. BHO is a politician, they all lie to some extent. However, as noted several times, proof has been supplied as to his US citizenship.
3. Proof of a CT SSi number has yet to be supplied. Sorry, but WND merely claiming it exists is hardly evidence. They have simply been caught fabricating too often.

Finally, I am an American of Irish decent. I am very stubborn, in case you haven't noticed. If you have no right, or even valid reason, to see my personal papers, you are not going to see them and I will do whatever is necessary to keep you from seeing them.

In addition...

Judges agree too, as each and every Birther case brought to court to force the issue (ie to see BHO's BC)has been thrown out of court.
 
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