Climate Alarmists Are So Uneducated

[Tpoints]

No, it's a conspiracy because they were caught red-handed with scientific fraud in the key underlying work that allegedly supports global warming theory.

No, they were not. Climategate is not key underlying work that supports global warming theory, as people spoon fed by mainstream media and conspiracy theorists would like to believe.

 

[Hiki]

The 'scientific consensus' that people like you get a hard on for.

Yea, because, like, they're just some stupid "scientists" who went to college and shit, what do they know pfft

It's funny how supposedly the scientists are "in the pocket of the state" but the "state" doesn't really do anything for it. Even Obama is talking about increasing coal- and oilproduction, when he's supposed to be in bed with the "bought-for" scientists.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

It's funny how supposedly the scientists are "in the pocket of the state" but the "state" doesn't really do anything for it. Even Obama is talking about increasing coal- and oilproduction, when he's supposed to be in bed with the "bought-for" scientists.

He is, is he?



Your ignorance and confusion is immense. I suggest you quit while you're behind.

 

[thoughtomator]

Well I'm sure that the majority of climate scientists have a very good reason to not be shouting "Legalize hemp!" into bullhorns as the first thing. I cant speak for them, ask them, send a letter to a scientific institute.

Yes I know that the climate has changed, but the fact is that pollution is having an effect on it, otherwise the whole scientific community wouldn't be running around talking about this problem.


http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/global_warming_contrarians/debunking-misinformation-stolen-emails-climategate.html Not the NYT.

If you are truly that gullible - or worse, think we are - then you are going to have a rough time over here in this corner of the Internet.

 

[Origanalist]

Hmmm, Jews and hot dogs.......Hebrew National salesman?

 

[Tpoints]

Yea, because, like, they're just some stupid "scientists" who went to college and shit, what do they know pfft

It's funny how supposedly the scientists are "in the pocket of the state" but the "state" doesn't really do anything for it. Even Obama is talking about increasing coal- and oilproduction, when he's supposed to be in bed with the "bought-for" scientists.

yeah, but that's because you don't understand how the REAL conspiracy works, see? Like they explained to you in the prop 37 thread, Monsanto pretends to be behind the labeling law, but they're in fact for it because they can use it in their favor. Obama is pretending to be pro-oil, pro-coal because he wants to keep American jobs, but he also wants to tax it more.

 

[Tpoints]

Yea, because, like, they're just some stupid "scientists" who went to college and shit, what do they know pfft

irony of this thread titled "climate alarmists are so uneducated".

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Yea, because, like, they're just some stupid "scientists" who went to college and shit, what do they know pfft

It's funny how supposedly the scientists are "in the pocket of the state" but the "state" doesn't really do anything for it. Even Obama is talking about increasing coal- and oilproduction, when he's supposed to be in bed with the "bought-for" scientists.

I need to know where this is from I can't stop laughing lol

 

[Dr.3D]

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It's funny how supposedly the scientists are "in the pocket of the state" but the "state" doesn't really do anything for it. Even Obama is talking about increasing coal- and oilproduction, when he's supposed to be in bed with the "bought-for" scientists.

So exactly who is funding these scientists? Check and you will find out the government has been doing a lot of the funding. The state doesn't really do anything for it? LOL....
These people don't want to lose their government funding.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

So exactly who is funding these scientists? Check and you will find out the government has been doing a lot of the funding. The state doesn't really do anything for it? LOL....
These people don't want to lose their government funding.

Not to mention that they would be blackballed and have their careers ruined if they went against the state-approved consensus. Science is just as tainted by state influence as anything else.

 

[Henry Rogue]

Wow, it must be a HUUUGE conspiracy if every climate scientist.. You know, the "professors", are all lying about climate change.

Not a conspiracy per say, the science community and educational community is affected by financial and political actions. If you review history, the history of money, the history of science, the history of politics, even the history of how history is interpreted. Everything is interconnected. Everything affects everything else. Human action is evident in all. Science does not exist in a bubble. It is folly to accept the general consensus of scientist without some repudiation. It is folly to view anything in a bubble. An example, while An-Cap Principles make sense when viewed in a bubble, it is fanciful to think such a utopia is possible. It ignores the inherent human desire of some to control others and I am afraid the desire of some who want to be controlled. The actions of these will always work to undermine any attempt at implementation or even acceptance. The same can be said for communism. The implementation of communism will always be undermined by the human desire of some to be free of control. Even an economy of free markets is untenable we can only work to make markets as free as possible. Does theory follow evidence or does evidence follow theory? One thing in IMO is for sure the very human desires of the scientist and educators affects their actions.

 

[Hiki]

He is, is he?



Your ignorance and confusion is immense. I suggest you quit while you're behind.

Well I was meaning the debates where he talked a lot about "cleancoal" which is an impressive comment from a green-guy. But anyway if he tries to get rid of coal then good, I couldn't think of anything better.

 

[Travlyr]

So exactly who is funding these scientists? Check and you will find out the government has been doing a lot of the funding. The state doesn't really do anything for it? LOL....
These people don't want to lose their government funding.

These guys... among plenty of others.

August 30, 2012

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has selected the University of Colorado Boulder to continue a federal/academic partnership that extends NOAA’s ability to study climate change, improve weather models and better predict how solar storms can disrupt communication and navigation technologies.

The selection means that NOAA will continue funding the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences, or CIRES, for at least five years and up to 10 more years. CIRES was established at CU-Boulder in 1967.

The amount of the award is contingent on the availability of funding in the federal budget, but NOAA anticipates that up to $32 million may be available annually. Total NOAA funding is variable from year to year and is based on the number of projects the university proposes and NOAA approves.

Following a competitive process, NOAA selected CU-Boulder to administer the CIRES partnership which leverages university resources to expand understanding of the “Earth system” -- the interrelationships among the atmosphere, oceans, land, living things and the sun’s energy.

“Improving our understanding of the Earth system is critically important as the build-up of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere is forcing changes in all of its processes,” said Robert Detrick, assistant administrator of the NOAA Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research and chairman of the NOAA Research Council. “The University of Colorado has been an excellent partner to NOAA in pursuing this mission.”

NOAA’s first cooperative institute, CIRES is marking its 45th anniversary this year and is now one of 18 NOAA cooperative institutes nationwide. NOAA competitively funds cooperative institutes at universities with strong research programs relevant to NOAA’s mission. These institutes provide resources and opportunities that extend beyond the agency’s own research capacity.

“Partnership in environmental research with the NOAA Boulder laboratories is the keystone of CIRES research,” said CIRES Interim Director William Lewis Jr. “We have great ambitions in joint research with NOAA over the next five years.”

The partnership allows researchers at CU-Boulder to receive support for research projects that may involve NOAA scientists, primarily at the Earth System Research Laboratory in Boulder as well as other NOAA cooperative institutes.

The CIRES partnership will focus on nine research themes:

• Air quality in a changing environment
• Climate forcing feedbacks and analysis
• Earth systems dynamics, variability and change
• Management and exploitation of geophysical data
• Regional science and applications
• Scientific outreach and education
• Space weather understanding and predictability
• Stratospheric processes and trends
• Systems and prediction models development

“With pressing issues like air quality, climate change and space weather now at the forefront globally, the University of Colorado Boulder is eager to continue this crucial partnership with NOAA,” said CU-Boulder Vice Chancellor for Research Stein Sture. “CIRES is known around the world for advancing our understanding of the complex Earth system and as a premier institution in educating the next generation of environmental scientists.”

NOAA supports cooperative institutes to conduct research, education, training and outreach aligned with its mission. Cooperative institutes also promote the involvement of students and postdoctoral scientists in NOAA-funded research. This unique setting provides NOAA the benefit of working with the complementary capabilities of a research institution that contribute to NOAA-related sciences ranging from satellite climatology and fisheries biology to atmospheric chemistry and coastal ecology.

For more information on CIRES visit http://cires.colorado.edu/. For more information on NOAA Cooperative Institutes visit http://www.nrc.noaa.gov/ci.

William Lewis Jr., 303-492-6378
[email protected]
Stein Sture, 303-492-2890
[email protected]
Jane Palmer, CIRES media relations, 303-492-6289
[email protected]

 

[Origanalist]

Well I was meaning the debates where he talked a lot about "cleancoal" which is an impressive comment from a green-guy. But anyway if he tries to get rid of coal then good, I couldn't think of anything better.

How does one "get rid of coal"? Bury it in the ground?

 

[Tpoints]

So exactly who is funding these scientists? Check and you will find out the government has been doing a lot of the funding. The state doesn't really do anything for it? LOL....
These people don't want to lose their government funding.

Climate research isn't the only scientific research that depends on government or public funding, but it's the only time people will say "therefore they must be wrong". I bet if they were funded privately, the same people will complain "they're just funding it so they can sell you solutions". These people NEVER provide a better researched alternative. And before you spout "I can find you those scientists", read and note : 1) they are no more independent than the alleged alarmist ones 2) they do not have independent data or alternative conclusions, they just say they doubt the conclusions other people have come to.

 

[Tpoints]

How does one "get rid of coal"? Bury it in the ground?

make it illegal. Or tax it to death.

 

[Dr.3D]

How does one "get rid of coal"? Bury it in the ground?

Na, dig it up and ship it to China. They will burn it anyway.

 

[Travlyr]

How does one "get rid of coal"? Bury it in the ground?

Lolz... either that or burn it all up.

 

[Origanalist]

make it illegal. Or tax it to death.

Nice, now I know what I'm dealing with here.

 

[Hiki]

So exactly who is funding these scientists? Check and you will find out the government has been doing a lot of the funding. The state doesn't really do anything for it? LOL....
These people don't want to lose their government funding.

You could make the same argument about cancer researchers. All that propaganda about cigarettes and cancer? That's just a scare tactic to generate work for medical researchers.

See how silly that sounds? And it's no less silly when applied to climate-scientists.