Civil disobedience is the solution for this COVID-19 madness

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A show of serious strength and resolve NOW, with the real possibility of beating back this tyrannical bullshit with LITTLE or NO bloodshed, or massive bloodshed later with much less if any possibility of victory. Which will it be?

Civil disobedience is the solution for this COVID-19 madness

By Cheryl K. Chumley - The Washington Times - Monday, November 16, 2020
ANALYSIS/OPINION:

Scott Atlas, the medical professional who’s been tasked under President Donald Trump to help decide best coronavirus practices and policies, called for citizens, particularly in Michigan, particularly in tyrannically-governed Michigan, to “rise up” and fight unconstitutional crackdowns from overreaching, overbearing public servants.

He’s right.

The longer this coronavirus madness goes on, the more apparent it becomes: civil disobedience and only civil disobedience will rein in the, well, madness.

Here’s what Atlas said, via Twitter: “The only way this stops is if people rise up. You get what you accept. #FreedomMatters. #StepUp.”

He also tweeted this, an apparent clarification: “Hey, I NEVER was talking at all about violence. People vote, people peacefully protest. NEVER would I endorse or incite violence. NEVER!!”

His tweets came after Michigan’s resident-in-tyranny Gov. Gretchen Whitmer announced new crackdowns on freedoms due to, sigh, sigh, once again, the coronavirus. Specifically, she announced a three-week ban on indoor dining; on in-person learning in high schools and in colleges and universities; on in-person working “when work can be done from home;” on organized sports; on theater, movie, stadium, and arena attendance; on bowling, on ice skating, on indoor water park play; on bingo-ing in bingo halls, on gambling in casinos; and on going to the gym to take group fitness classes.

I am zee law.

Happily, she didn’t ban the buying of seeds this time.

She also graciously allowed for the playing of professional sports — minus the spectators — and for the mourning at funerals, so long as not more than 25 were in attendance.

Strangely, preschools, kindergartens, elementary schools and middle schools through grade eight, along with day cares, can remain open. Because the coronavirus only infects the higher grade levels?

Anyhow, Whitmer, as expected, expressed shock and awe — shock and awe! — at Atlas’s tweets.

“It actually took my breath away, to tell you the truth,” she told MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” in reference to the tweets.

But here’s the thing, America: At what point do coronavirus crackdowns on freedoms become unacceptable?

At what point is the breaking point?

Founding Fathers knew well the reluctance of a people to “rise up,” as Atlas put it, and cast off an unjust government. They wrote, in fact, in the Declaration of Independence that “all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.”

True.

Look around at all the face mask-wearing people, take note of all the business closings and church attendance limits, take a gander at all the kids home from school and it’s clear: “Mankind are more disposed to suffer.”

But these same Founding Fathers also wrote this: “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government.”

Peaceably, if possibly.


Are we there yet?

If Michigan were the only state, if Whitmer were the only governor, taking this coronavirus chaos and running roughshod over personal rights, maybe America could afford to ride out the storm, wait out the virus, patiently obey all the orders.

But the nonsense is widespread, from California to Michigan to Virginia to Massachusetts.

Atlas is right. Founders were right.

Civil disobedience is the only way to reel in the madness. Americans must beat back the health bureaucrats and political opportunists now — or forever wear the face mask. Forever cede freedoms. Forever give government the right to rule, not serve
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/nov/16/civil-disobedience-solution-covid-19-madness/
 
THIS is the real story, the one deserving of everyone's full attention. So naturally most people in the political wing ofbthe liberty movement are directing their ire, their attention and most of their other resources at the election, almost completely ignoring it as TPTB put the finishing touches on the medico-fascist police state they've already constructed around us. Great.
 
THIS is the real story, the one deserving of everyone's full attention. So naturally most people in the political wing ofbthe liberty movement are directing their ire, their attention and most of their other resources at the election, almost completely ignoring it as TPTB put the finishing touches on the medico-fascist police state they've already constructed around us. Great.

As history as precisely shown time after time.

You must spread rep.
 
Well, you're right it will end this. Eventually the anti-mask people will all get COVID and wipe themselves out.

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THIS is the real story, the one deserving of everyone's full attention. So naturally most people in the political wing ofbthe liberty movement are directing their ire, their attention and most of their other resources at the election, almost completely ignoring it as TPTB put the finishing touches on the medico-fascist police state they've already constructed around us. Great.

I have read about people wanting to organize a group no mask movement into big box stores. I also think the election and the virus fear are interconnected. Its a control mechanism to quickly destroy populist movements.
 


That's always been one of the curious things about the modern "liberty movement." There never seems to be any shortage of weak-willed, fear-addled collaborators chomping at the bit to go charging in and attempt to snatch defeat from the very jaws of victory, or at least potential victory.

We've been handed a golden opportunity to set TPTB back decades or more if we were only to act decisively. Instead, we're being encouraged, actually the attempt is to fear us into it, to collaborate in our own total enslavement by purported allies. With friends like these...
 
I would love to join a group of hundreds of people who decide to hit up big box stores maskless. One big barrage of people, just like BLM and antifa do!

The problem is that the media and fear tactics have the majority of the mob right where they want them: at the point where they police themselves. This has led to everything from having the police called on you, even if you're minding your own business and are "social distancing" to even being physically attacked by said tattlers.

#JoinTheCovidCultComrade!
 
Why do people want to spread a very contagious illness regardless of the mortality rate? Isn't this a drag on the economy and medical staff who have to deal with the spikes in hospitalizations?
 
They are going to try and starve us into compliance. I would rather starve than live in their New Normal. So be it. I can hunt and fish on The King's land still.
 
Why do people want to spread a very contagious illness regardless of the mortality rate? Isn't this a drag on the economy and medical staff who have to deal with the spikes in hospitalizations?

Oh Come on Man.
It is a Cold..

A minor inconvenience, and yearly occurrence..

It has been promoted to plague like status by Media Saturation..

It would be less drag if it were ignored, and Gotten Over.

The Hospital Spike is Bullshit..
Health Workers (nurses,Techs) are laid off, or working short shifts.. Hospitals have been near Ghost Town Empty.
Been to some and seen the lies myself.
 
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Oh Come on Man.
It is a Cold..

A minor inconvenience, and yearly occurrence..

It has been promoted to plague like status by Media Saturation..

It would be less drag if it were ignored, and Gotten Over.

The Hospital Spike is Bull$#@!..
Health Workers (nurses,Techs) are laid off, or working short shifts.. Hospitals have been near Ghost Town Empty.
Been to some and seen the lies myself.

Okay I'm seeing reports of El Paso now having trouble with the hospitalization and fatality load. Are they just a shitty hospital or is this an outlier?

Or do I believe all these stories are staged theater?

If I happened to live in El Paso and drove to this hospital would I see total chaos? Or is this kind of thing apart of the public facing side of the hospital? I mean the morgue or morgue overflow is probably setup out of sight of the public.


Anyway the way it seems to me for now is mortality probably is going down for a variety of reasons. Maybe a significant amount of the most vulnerable have already died, but also over time our therapeutic treatments are getting better. I'm just concerned that high hospitalizations could overwhelm hospital capacity.

Also, I do not think all hospitals everywhere I like this. It seems to spike regionally while other locations maybe be fine or have low hospitalizations.
 
Okay I'm seeing reports of El Paso now having trouble with the hospitalization and fatality load. Are they just a $#@!ty hospital or is this an outlier?

Or do I believe all these stories are staged theater?

If I happened to live in El Paso and drove to this hospital would I see total chaos? Or is this kind of thing apart of the public facing side of the hospital? I mean the morgue or morgue overflow is probably setup out of sight of the public.


Anyway the way it seems to me for now is mortality probably is going down for a variety of reasons. Maybe a significant amount of the most vulnerable have already died, but also over time our therapeutic treatments are getting better. I'm just concerned that high hospitalizations could overwhelm hospital capacity.

Also, I do not think all hospitals everywhere I like this. It seems to spike regionally while other locations maybe be fine or have low hospitalizations.

I was told all that BULL back in March.. They had a huge Military Buildup and Field Hospitals to show how serious it was..

NOT ONE patient was seen in those for show hospitals.

I was in 2 Hospitals that the media described as OVERWHELMED.

They were Ghost Town Empty,,but my wife did get excellent care from the Staff that remained,, as they were grateful of the work.

I Marched in Olympia with Nurses and Techs that wanted to go back to work,, Hospitals laid off staff due to lack of patients.

I deal in Reality.. though it usually sucks.

I also read the local Obits..

Most old folks are still dying at home.. Very few in Hospitals.
 
Why do people want to spread a very contagious illness regardless of the mortality rate? Isn't this a drag on the economy and medical staff who have to deal with the spikes in hospitalizations?

And I'm sure if I search your post history, around this time every year, you will be asking us all the same question only it's in reference to influenza. Amiright?
 
Free Breathers
https://www.thetriple1.com/take-act...qWvVv3Z-yVbkQ5duW16F4NMdF4TsNW4oEa1zREXJCQGYU

‘FREE BREATHERS’ - a maskless activist group in WA state.
A Snohomish County - based 111 ‘Partner’

*A NOTE FROM FREE BREATHERS:

Hi friend of freedom!

FREE BREATHERS is one of the most prolific freedom activist groups in the state of Washington. We organize approximately 1-4 events per week in the form of maskless grocery and other shopping trips, events and now increasingly, protests.

If you are added to our personal phone list (growing daily at this point), a FREE BREATHERS lead will text you for every single event several times per week.

Once you are on our list, you can create your own event (set time / date / location) and tell us - invite your friends and we’ll invite ours! We typically have between 20-70 unmasked faces per event - and our networks are much larger than that. And as mentioned, we are growing by the day.

Nevertheless, since we are an intimate group - parents, grandparents and even children - we screen all members, either in-person or by personal referral before they make it onto our text list.
 
And I'm sure if I search your post history, around this time every year, you will be asking us all the same question only it's in reference to influenza. Amiright?


In a slightly different way, I probably do have some comments on even the previous cases of Flu. I have often thought it absurd how American work culture seems to want people showing up to work sick and spreading the sickness in the office only staying home once they have a high fever and/or throwing up. So yeah, maybe they should be home 'social distancing'.

My view depends on a lot of things though; the other side that we can't all be in hermetic isolation is also valid and hiding from germs probably has it's own consequences on the immune system.

Trying to come up with an analogy here, but we can consider Sunlight. To much you get sunburns or potentially skin cancer or even just look like you're aging prematurely, yet it's understood some Sunlight exposure is beneficial so avoiding Sunshine is also bad ( I think work culture is another issue here keeping so many indoors all the time. What if during Covid we're low on Vitamin D? )

it's not an all or nothing issue.

I have sometimes considered how other cultures respond to these things. Japan in particular has widely used masks for allergies, flu, and the common cold prior to Covid19. It looks like they are still experiencing a wide Covid19 infection case rate, but lower hospitalizations and deaths. I have wondered the masks are not 100% effective, but causing a lower viral load so they can more easily beat it. I think Japan also favors open air ventilation and less central air or heating ( I think this is the case in Germany to )

Anyway, to come back to the point, if masks or other measures were proposed for the Flu or especially a strenuous Flu epidemic straining hospital capacity regardless of the death rate, I would participate.
 
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