Christian Yoga? It's a Stretch...(Is Yoga Demonic? Yes, it is.)

[eduardo89]

This is total bullshit. I'm sure this guy would say anything that doesn't involve worshiping Christ is demonic. His next article will probably say we should start a holy war with demonic Muslims so we can convert them to Christ.

Anything that worships a false god is demonic.

 

[eduardo89]

the gospels etc werent written by jesus.so what gives them sanctity?why is the bible so authoritative if jesus(allegedly illiterate) had no real personal contribution to it.

They didn't need to be written by Him. They were revealed to us through the Holy Spirit.

 

[Dsylexic]

They didn't need to be written by Him. They were revealed to us through the Holy Spirit.

all fine and dandy.except that every other religion has similar elements where holy spirits have 'revealed' stuff from time to time.no guarantee that Mr Holy Spirit gave a monopoly over the truth to a few people

 

[Todd]

Yoga is just stretching. If you are worshiping some false god while you are stretching well that's... I don't know anyone who has done that and clearly that's something a bit more than doing Yoga stretches. I've seen many videos by Mak Driscoll and he is in fact often paranoid like this. For example, he went off on the movie Avatar for being "dark and demonic" etc... maybe he doesn't realize it's fictional. I don't think he would say the same about the fictional worlds created by famous Christian authors J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis.

Ultimately, telling your congregation that it's evil to do certain stretches or watch certain movies is going to turn people away from Christ for the wrong reasons.

Pat Boone once said the band Duran Duran was Demonic too. Some like to take things to extremes.

 

[Simple]

you understand Christianity pretty well? Yet you seem to believe that all religious paths lead to God. Something that Jesus completely rejected. So in your understanding of Christianity you make Jesus out to be a liar. As he said that he was the only path.

you cannot have it both ways. Either Jesus was lying or he was telling the truth.

Actually quite the opposite: I believe that no religion leads to God, only spirituality and how you choose to live your life. Religion is just the institutions set up by man. I believe that you are arguing your religion well, but I think you may not really understand what Jesus taught.

 

[phill4paul]

Pat Boone once said the band Duran Duran was Demonic too. Some like to take things to extremes.

Pat would know.

 

[Brown Sapper]

Good morning. Crazy to see this thread still going. Anywho I was wondering if Hindus and the other Eastern bloc religion was so far removed from the truth, then why did Jesus appear in Jerusalem? If Abrahamic religions were the closest to the New Testament teachings why would he manifest himself in India or China to convert the non-believers?

 

[moostraks]

Actually quite the opposite: I believe that no religion leads to God, only spirituality and how you choose to live your life. Religion is just the institutions set up by man. I believe that you are arguing your religion well, but I think you may not really understand what Jesus taught.

I think you are right with this argument regarding religion. I figured this thread would end up this way. People of faith are at others throats to prove who has the only understanding of the ultimate Love and sacrifice. All the while belittling the spark of that ultimate Love in their fellow man.

 

[wannaberocker]

According to whom... you? Guy sounds a lot like me. To each one's own. Who knows better than one's own self what will carry the soul onward and forward, and deliver themselves to eternal peace?

According to the Scriptures, Oh wait i forgot you reject scriptures. Yet claim to be a Christian.

Which is why i asked. Which Christ do you represent? the Christ of the scriptures or some other Christ.

 

[TER]

Good morning. Crazy to see this thread still going. Anywho I was wondering if Hindus and the other Eastern bloc religion was so far removed from the truth, then why did Jesus appear in Jerusalem? If Abrahamic religions were the closest to the New Testament teachings why would he manifest himself in India or China to convert the non-believers?

Christ said that salvation comes from the Jews and that the prophecies all told that through the line of King David would the Messiah of all nations be raised. This is on account of Israel being the Chosen People of God because they held to the faith of Abraham who found righteousness before God during a time in the world when no one else knew Him and rather worshipped false gods or idols.

Anyways, the Apostles Thomas and Matthias did travel to India to share the good news of the risen Christ soon after He ascended to Heaven. It was the Apostles who were charged to go and baptize and convert the non-believers, and they did do that, bringing many to the Church.

 

[WilliamC]

 

[specsaregood]

I asked the question how one can know Christ while rejecting the gospels. The idea that you reject the gospel is not my opinion, its based on your own words that you shared in chat.

so I ask the question- which Christ do ya believe in? The Christ of the gospels or some other Christ?

I simply want to understand what it means to you, to spread Christ word, what that word looks like and what the message is.

I find it funny people with your attitude. You want to believe in an all-powerful God that can by definition do anything it wants; yet want to constrain God to your own pitiful human thinking within the bounds of earthly logic.

If an all-powerful God wanted to make 2+2=4 and at the exact same time make 2+2=5, he could. Stop thinking so limitedly.

 

[TER]

I think you are right with this argument regarding religion. I figured this thread would end up this way. People of faith are at others throats to prove who has the only understanding of the ultimate Love and sacrifice. All the while belittling the spark of that ultimate Love in their fellow man.

I dont see how defending the truth is belittling the spark of the ultimate Love in their fellow man.

 

[wannaberocker]

the gospels etc werent written by jesus.so what gives them sanctity?why is the bible so authoritative if jesus(allegedly illiterate) had no real personal contribution to it.

If one rejects the Gospels. Yet, proclaims Jesus. The bigger question to ask would be "Why proclaim Jesus" to begin with?
Also, I find it hard that So many seemingly intelligent people make the same elementary argument against the Gospels. The argument being "well Jesus didn’t write them" or that "how do we know what Jesus's truly said and what was written down".
I guess if that line of reasoning was to be taken. Then almost anything that is not directly written by the central figure of a book should be rejected. I guess all the Books regarding the founding fathers that are not written by the founding fathers themselves should be rejected.
Lets take Abraham Lincoln for example: There are thousands of Books written about Abraham Lincoln. Most of those books paint a similar picture of Abraham Lincoln’s actions. However, you get 10 books about Lincoln, all by different authors and written at different times. All say that Lincoln was with the North during the Civil War. But then you find 1 book that says he was with the South. Do you take the account of the 9 or the account of the 1? Well logic would suggest you take the account of the 9.
So tell me next time you talk about a historical event or a historical figure should reply “how do you know? Were you there? Or well XYZ didn’t write the book himself”. Again this is one of the most juvenile arguments out there. Yet, people keep repeating it.

 

[wannaberocker]

Actually quite the opposite: I believe that no religion leads to God, only spirituality and how you choose to live your life. Religion is just the institutions set up by man. I believe that you are arguing your religion well, but I think you may not really understand what Jesus taught.

In that case i guess the question ill ask you is "What is spirituality"?

My understanding of what Jesus taught comes from the Gospels. Where does your understanding on the matter come from?

 

[Brown Sapper]

Christ said that salvation comes from the Jews and that the prophecies all told that through the line of King David would the Messiah of all nations be raised. This is on account of Israel being the Chosen People of God because they held to the faith of Abraham who found righteousness before God during a time in the world when no one else knew Him and rather worshipped false gods or idols.

Anyways, the Apostles Thomas and Matthias did travel to India to share the good news of the risen Christ soon after He ascended to Heaven. It was the Apostles who were charged to go and baptize and convert the non-believers, and they did do that, bringing many to the Church.

Do you realize that every religion claims exclusivity and warn against "false gods." You still haven't proven that yours is the correct path or differentiate yours from any other religion. Do you think that Jesus was the only one to come down an do miracles? How can you be so sure of the workings of God? He does what he pleases. Mohammad said he was the third and final seal. Why should I believe Jesus over him? What about Joseph Smith Jr. and the LDS? Even the Christians can't even determine who is right and who is wrong from just one prophet and you claim to know God because of a book as if you can contain his workings of mere pages.

 

[TER]

Do you realize that every religion claims exclusivity and warn against "false gods." You still haven't proven that yours is the correct path or differentiate yours from any other religion. Do you think that Jesus was the only one to come down an do miracles? How can you be so sure of the workings of God? He does what he pleases. Mohammad said he was the third and final seal. Why should I believe Jesus over him? What about Joseph Smith Jr. and the LDS? Even the Christians can't even determine who is right and who is wrong from just one prophet and you claim to know God because of a book as if you can contain his workings of mere pages.

I of course realize that every faith claims exclusivity, which would be natural given there can only be one true faith. I have already written down at length previously in this thread why Christ alone saves us so I won't repeat it here again.

 

[specsaregood]

I of course realize that every faith claims exclusivity, which would be natural given there can only be one true faith.

That is quite the given. There you guys go again; putting limitations on God's power and will.

 

[Todd]

Pat would know.

I was going to point out that he changed his tune later. lol.


But that Yoga is the Devil!

 

[wannaberocker]

I find it funny people with your attitude. You want to believe in an all-powerful God that can by definition do anything it wants; yet want to constrain God to your own pitiful human thinking within the bounds of earthly logic.

If an all-powerful God wanted to make 2+2=4 and at the exact same time make 2+2=5, he could. Stop thinking so limitedly.

Think of it this way. If i go to kindergarten and want to talk about economics. I would use kindergarten logic to explain basic economics to the kids. If i use High Level economic jargon to explain basic economics to a bunch of Kindergarten kids. Does my high level economic jargon make a difference to the kids? Or will they simply not understand a word im saying. In all likelihood they will not understand a word im saying. The same way a Limitless God can present a framework for Truth, that us Humans can understand.

What you speak of is a "Blind" faith in some random Idea of God. Where there is no logic or reason to it, its just like believing in the tooth fairy. However, That is not what Christianity is, Christianity is not a blind faith. Christianity comes with a framework that God presents. Using that framework a Man or Woman of God can Look at any situation in life and separate right from wrong. With that frame work a man or woman of God can separate truth from falsehoods. Why? because at the end of the day God is truth and he provides Truth alone. Two contradictions both cannot be right as scripture tells us in

Matthew 6:24 "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other."

What you argue is a straw man argument, kind of like saying “can God Tell a lie”?