Christian Yoga? It's a Stretch...(Is Yoga Demonic? Yes, it is.)

Articles like this are why Christians are stereotyped the way they are. Isn't it enough for you people for someone to respect others' property rights? Apparently not. You go around saying "don't judge", yet you judge every step of the way. Stow it.
 
Articles like this are why Christians are stereotyped the way they are. Isn't it enough for you people for someone to respect others' property rights? Apparently not. You go around saying "don't judge", yet you judge every step of the way. Stow it.

I am almost tempted to negative rep you, but I won't. :D That is called being Christian. ;)

Me telling you how little amount of friends you will make living with such an attitude and posting such ridiculous drivel can be Christian too.
 
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I'm just joking around. I've never experienced anything like that, but if I do, I know I will freak out!

Ah....I missed the light-heartedness.

I use to go out of body fairly often when I was a kid. It didn't scare me then. It might as an adult though.
 
We Christians believe that the One God came down from heaven and took on our flesh in order to save us - all - including our flesh. Christ fulfilled all righteousness. In addition, God felt hunger only in Jesus Christ so that hunger could be vanquished. God felt thirst, so that we our thirst would be satiated. God felt sadness so that sadness could find joy. God experienced loneliness so that we might never know it. God felt pain so that pain could be healed. He experienced death so that death would be destroyed and hold no power over our flesh.

God created this universe and many other planes of existence. He gave us the feeling that we feel. To have him manifest to "experience" these feeling is kinda redundant.

We believe in the santification of flesh, for Christ saves ALL of us, and only in Christ is this accomplished. Indeed even the very bones of the saints have become vessels of the Holy Spirit and have perform miracles not unike they did in the times of Elisha.

Your body is made with the same things as the trees and the rocks and everything else in the universe. There is nothing special about the body in terms of the universe. It is the soul and your conscious that make you unique. That is your gift from god. That is what is worth saving.

While all faiths and beliefs share in degrees the ultimate truths of this world, only in Christ do we find salvation. And not in part, but all of us - body soul and spirit. Our entire trinitarian being raising from the tomb just as He did in His glorious Resurrection and just as He did with Lazarus who was four days rotting in the heat of the tomb. We will be raised trinitarian just as we were created trinitarian, and only in the fulness of Christ is this possible, for only the very God and Supreme Lord of Creatican could do this. And this is the teaching of Christ, and what the Church has confessed with their very lives. "and if anyone preach to you a different gospel... ".

Your gospel is not that different from ours, but both have been perverted by man for their benefit as for the rest, that went over my head.

That we worship One God, that is not really the issue at all. I can accept that in good measure. We differ in our understanding in how we are saved and by Whom we are saved, and what salvation really means.

Our differences come from the very issue above. I believe that only in Christ do I or you or anything in all of creation, living or dead, finds true life and paradise and salvation. Not only in Christ, but By Christ.

The beginning of Christ didn't begin when he manifested upon this earth. He has always been here. He has been down here several times even in other forms and other times. You look at Christ as a man who was born, lived and died but he is a god and he has been here since the beginning of time. God has come down whenever man is in peril to aid him and put him on the right track. Do you think that the coming of Christ was a one time show.

“Whenever righteousness wanes and unrighteousness increases I send myself forth.
For the protection of the good and for the destruction of evil,
and for the establishment of righteousness,
I come into being age after age." (Gita:4.7–8)


That is why we do not the burn the bodies of our beloved ones, because even the flesh has Christ saved.

God has no use for your flesh.


And even by the flesh of the dead has God used to perform His miracles, and the lives of the saints are replete with such doings of Divine Providence.

Unless you can convince me that Hinduism saves me as I was created first, then I can never be persuaded that Christ is the Truth of the world. The very Reason of God born of a virgin and fulfilling all prophecies Who has become the Food, the Life, the Truth, the Way, the Gate, the Lord over all of creation and will judge us all on that Final Day.

I am not trying to convince you of anything. You already believe in God which is enough for me. How you choose to worship Him is your path. That is the fundamental of Hinduism. Do not judge mine.

Say whatever you wish, but you cannot claim to love Jesus and understand who he is if you don't take Him for His very words. And that is why I urge to open up the Gospels and read the one according to St. John carefully, every line and every word that comes out of Jesus' mouth. Do not skim over parts or automatically judge what Christ is saying, but rather come with an open mind and allow His words and His actions to make their impression on you. Unless you do this, then you cannot know the God I worship and how much He loves us and nothing I have ever heard from a Hindu or Muslim or anyone else could convince me otherwise. We must then accept that while we seek the same One God and nirvana, the Christian makes the claim that in Jesus Christ the One God has revealed Himself and that through Christ do we find nirvana, not in the mind or the soul sense, or even just the bodily sense - but in the whole self, transfirgured in Christ - in the fullness and stature of Christ - in eternal loving communion with God.

I never claimed to worship Jesus. Personally I go for the direct approach and worship our Trimurti and throw in a couple more gods to suit my needs. (Ganesh for school, Lakshmi for prosperity and what not.) The reason why no hindu has tried to convert you because A. In our eyes you follow a god of your choosing, who are we to say that we are right and you are wrong. B. It's actually against our religion to try and convert people. I don't remember the exact quote but its about casting seeds in barren land.

I will give up my worldly life in order to witness to this truth. And when I do, I find peace and love and humility.

This includes your body.


So you can see why the Christian can easily become a martyr in order to gain the whole world and the Kingdom of Heaven. This is Christ's promise, and I take Him at His word.

But I cannot do this without my own willingness and participation. For Christ gave me hands to hep my neighbor, tongues so that I might tell the truth, feet so that I can search out the ones whom I have abandoned and forgotten and arms to outstretch and embrace them and fill them with the hope of divine life. In this spirit do I post this for you to read, and forgive me if my words have done otherwise.

You follow the path that you think is right brother. Namaste
 
Good post. I see to many christians who in their ignorance say "oh its just stretching and means nothing". Yet the ignore the roots of Yoga and everything it represents.

I agree with the OP and the first reply. And it's not limited to yoga. People need to realize that if they profess to be a Christian, they shouldn't be mixing Christianity with other religions. (That sounds like a Captain Obvious statement, but surprisingly, it needs to be said.) I can think of a few people who believe in Jesus, and consider themselves christians, but are also into New-Agey or Eastern religions as well. I know one guy who goes to a christian church, but believes in reincarnation and things that are totally antithetical to Christianity. He may even still go to psychics. One time I said something to him about his mixing of religions (and what the scriptures say about that) and he just brushed it off with something like, "You have your ideas about Christianity, and I have mine."

I think the example I gave above comes down to a lack of knowledge. And it's sad, imo, when someone identifies themself as a christian, yet hasn't studied or even read the bible, and believes in false teachings.
 
I am almost tempted to negative rep you, but I won't. :D That is called being Christian. ;)

Me telling you how little amount of friends you will make living with such an attitude and posting such ridiculous drivel can be Christian too.

Go ahead and neg rep. I gave them a + rep. The poster is correct in his statement.
 
I agree with the OP and the first reply. And it's not limited to yoga. People need to realize that if they profess to be a Christian, they shouldn't be mixing Christianity with other religions. (That sounds like a Captain Obvious statement, but surprisingly, it needs to be said.) I can think of a few people who believe in Jesus, and consider themselves christians, but are also into New-Agey or Eastern religions as well. I know one guy who goes to a christian church, but believes in reincarnation and things that are totally antithetical to Christianity. He may even still go to psychics. One time I said something to him about his mixing of religions (and what the scriptures say about that) and he just brushed it off with something like, "You have your ideas about Christianity, and I have mine."

I think the example I gave above comes down to a lack of knowledge. And it's sad, imo, when someone identifies themself as a christian, yet hasn't studied or even read the bible, and believes in false teachings.

According to whom... you? Guy sounds a lot like me. To each one's own. Who knows better than one's own self what will carry the soul onward and forward, and deliver themselves to eternal peace?
 
According to whom... you? Guy sounds a lot like me. To each one's own. Who knows better than one's own self what will carry the soul onward and forward, and deliver themselves to eternal peace?

According to the bible. And I completely understand that not everyone believes the bible, so my post was not aimed at non-christians... I was referring to people who profess to be christians, who go to a christian church, and consider themselves christian. All I'm saying is that those actions (mixing christianity with Eastern or New-Agey religions) go against what the scriptures teach.
 
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According to whom... you? Guy sounds a lot like me. To each one's own. Who knows better than one's own self what will carry the soul onward and forward, and deliver themselves to eternal peace?

God.
 
Welcome to page 30:
  • Yoga is not a Demonic activity.*
*Unless you have some pretty serious demons hiding within yourself. :p
 
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God created this universe and many other planes of existence. He gave us the feeling that we feel. To have him manifest to "experience" these feeling is kinda redundant.

Redundant to you, but necessary for our salvation. Whatever is not assumed is not healed, and we find salvation because Christ first assumed it and healed it. This includes the garments of skin we have and the many passions associated with it. And this not limited to our flesh, but to our minds as well.

Your body is made with the same things as the trees and the rocks and everything else in the universe. There is nothing special about the body in terms of the universe. It is the soul and your conscious that make you unique. That is your gift from god. That is what is worth saving.

No. My God created everything good. And whether my body is composed of the same atoms as a piece of wood means absolutely nothing in regards to my whole self being saved. For you can try to tell me that my flesh is not part of me or a gift from God, but then I can tell you I have no idea whatever you are talking about, for my flesh is probably the most surest part of my being I can understand and experience.

Your gospel is not that different from ours, but both have been perverted by man for their benefit

No, our gospels are very different, no matter how much you may disagree. Do we share certain moral truths and spiritual realities? Well, of course! But the good news of how we are saved and Who saves us is indeed quite different.

The beginning of Christ didn't begin when he manifested upon this earth. He has always been here. He has been down here several times even in other forms and other times. You look at Christ as a man who was born, lived and died but he is a god and he has been here since the beginning of time. God has come down whenever man is in peril to aid him and put him on the right track. Do you think that the coming of Christ was a one time show.

No, not a show, but an act of redemption, in time but for all time, in the fullness of time. God has revealed Himself to all nations and peoples in as far as they would accept Him, but He came down only once as the Incarnate Lamb and Word of God in order to grant all men salvation.

God has no use for your flesh.

God has no need for anything. It is not God Who benefits by sanctifying our flesh, it is us.

I never claimed to worship Jesus. Personally I go for the direct approach and worship our Trimurti and throw in a couple more gods to suit my needs. (Ganesh for school, Lakshmi for prosperity and what not.) The reason why no hindu has tried to convert you because A. In our eyes you follow a god of your choosing, who are we to say that we are right and you are wrong. B. It's actually against our religion to try and convert people. I don't remember the exact quote but its about casting seeds in barren land.

I did not choose Jesus to be my God. It is Who He Himself claimed to be and I accept it in obedience for only He reveals God fully because only through Him do our entire beings find salvation, our flesh included, and only through Him do we find true experiential relationship, eternal loving communing and ineffable divine knowledge of the immutable and transcendent God. And God is Love, and by His love on the Cross are we able to know divine love.

I will give up my worldly life in order to witness to this truth. And when I do, I find peace and love and humility....

This includes your body
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Yes, it does. But not done in order to lose my flesh, but rather to gain eternal life, resurrected in eternal flesh, to the full potential of being human in communion with the divine, where there is no pain, no suffering, no sorrow, but life everlasting. As it was in the Garden. Becoming unto Christ, the Second Adam, not a spirit with no body or a divine nature without human nature, but a communing of God's nature entirely with my complete and resurrected human nature, flesh and all, just as Christ was fully human and fully divine, except for Him by His nature and for me by His grace. For Christ did not come back as a spirit, but He sat and ate with them, and St. Thomas put his fingers in the wound in His side. And as Christ ascended into Heaven, that is how we will meet Him.
 
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And you know the mind of God? You should write a gospel.

I am not worthy. I only repeat what has already been revealed by God and witnessed by the saints, and what has been defended by much greater men and women then me.
 
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This is a really good read on yoga from a Christian perspective.

The video the author refers to is this one:



I suggest watching the video before reading


This is total bullshit. I'm sure this guy would say anything that doesn't involve worshiping Christ is demonic. His next article will probably say we should start a holy war with demonic Muslims so we can convert them to Christ.
 
what is the real difference between the desert bloc religions /abhrahamic faiths? one god,one book,one saviour/prophet?. nothing except some trifling cultural details
 
I agree with the OP and the first reply. And it's not limited to yoga. People need to realize that if they profess to be a Christian, they shouldn't be mixing Christianity with other religions. (That sounds like a Captain Obvious statement, but surprisingly, it needs to be said.) I can think of a few people who believe in Jesus, and consider themselves christians, but are also into New-Agey or Eastern religions as well. I know one guy who goes to a christian church, but believes in reincarnation and things that are totally antithetical to Christianity. He may even still go to psychics. One time I said something to him about his mixing of religions (and what the scriptures say about that) and he just brushed it off with something like, "You have your ideas about Christianity, and I have mine."

I think the example I gave above comes down to a lack of knowledge. And it's sad, imo, when someone identifies themself as a christian, yet hasn't studied or even read the bible, and believes in false teachings.
the gospels etc werent written by jesus.so what gives them sanctity?why is the bible so authoritative if jesus(allegedly illiterate) had no real personal contribution to it.
 
In all seriousness, declaring something "Demonic" instead of "Non-Christian" is a pretty arrogant, conceited thing to do.

There's NO PROOF WHATSOEVER that Christianity is the "correct" religion. You have no right to call my own religious practices "demonic" simply because it's not Christian.

Shintoists for example have no central god, but instead many gods. Are you going to call them "demonic" too, because your god was too lazy to spread his message to the Japanese people?

Simply because of the existence of the Japanese, and their lack of worship to a central deity, I cannot accept the notion that the god of Christianity is our true god. Plus he's a bit of an narcissist. Even if he did exist, I think he's an overly bureaucratic jackass, no better than most politicians today.
 
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In all seriousness, declaring something "Demonic" instead of "Non-Christian" is a pretty arrogant, conceited thing to do.

There's NO PROOF WHATSOEVER that Christianity is the "correct" religion. You have no right to call my own religious practices "demonic" simply because it's not Christian.

Shintoists for example have no central god, but instead many gods. Are you going to call them "demonic" too, because your god was too lazy to spread his message to the Japanese people?

Simply because of the existence of the Japanese, and their lack of worship to a central deity, I cannot accept the notion that the god of Christianity is our true god. Plus he's a bit of an narcissist. Even if he did exist, I think he's an overly bureaucratic jackass, no better than most politicians today.

Word demon or demonic comes from the Greek word "daimon" which means spirit, pure and simple. It didn`t mean "evil spirit". Its meaning was perverted in an attempt to stigmatize or "demonize" others who were different, not adhering to the norm aka the established religion.

The original neutral Greek word "daimon" does not carry the negative connotation initially understood by implementation of the Koine (Hellenistic and New Testament Greek) δαιμόνιον (daimonion),[1] and later ascribed to any cognate words sharing the root, originally intended to denote a spirit or spiritual being.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon
 
I'm going to say it again because I think it needs to be said. People who practice yoga (diligently) are in much greater health and vitality than those who do not (generally). In the US especially. There are many things demonic in this world. Most of them ingested by those who call themselves Christian. Whether that be into their minds or their bodies. Sounds to me as if some would like to have lengthy discussions on the motes in the eyes of others.

I surely hope those individuals are of pinnacle health and wellness, lest those beams overwhelm their bodies as well as their souls.
 
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