Chris Matthews wants to see Obama long form birth certificate

[ghengis86]

http://visiontoamerica.org/story/chris-matthews-asks-obama-to-release-birth-certificate.html

Chris Matthews, the anchor of MSNBC's "Hardball" program, is now calling for Barack Obama to release his original, long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate to put to rest any doubts about the president's constitutional eligibility to hold office.

On last night's edition of his show, Matthews stated: "I am not a birther. I am an enemy of the birthers." But he continued with the questions, "Why doesn't the president just say, 'Send me a copy right now?' Why doesn't Gibbs and Axelrod say, 'Let's just get this crappy story dead?' Why not do it? ... If it exists, why not put it out?"

Matthews was joined by Clarance Page of the Chicago Tribune and David Corn of Mother Jones, who both agreed with the call for Obama to publicly release the document, which to this point has remained under wraps.

 

[qh4dotcom]

On last night's edition of his show, Matthews stated: "I am not a birther. I am an enemy of the birthers."

Oh yes, the same guy who said Obama was born in Indonesia is not a birther

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22326842#fullstory

"But didn‘t Hillary dump on Obama a few days ago for playing up his Indonesian roots? So, what is she up to here? Is she pushing how great he is for having been born in Indonesia, or what, or si...mply reminding everybody about his background, his Islamic background? "
- Chris Matthews

 

[ghengis86]

Fascinating. Didn't Matthews say he was personally going to do everything he could to help Obamas presidency?

 

[Bruno]

Fascinating. Didn't Matthews say he was personally going to do everything he could to help Obamas presidency?

Maybe he actually thinks he is by taking this approach.

 

[ctiger2]

If it exists, why not put it out?"

Maybe it doesn't exist...? You'd think they'd have put it out already if they had one.

 

[Bruno]

Maybe it doesn't exist...? You'd think they'd have put it out already if they had one.

No, it is much more logical to spend millions on attorneys so you don't have to, lol.

 

[qh4dotcom]

http://visiontoamerica.org/story/chris-matthews-asks-obama-to-release-birth-certificate.html

If it exists, why not put it out?

Ha Ha Ha...Matthews claims he is not a birther, an enemy of the birthers yet asks the question "If it exists"...an anti-birther would have no doubts "it exists", no ifs.

 

[Philhelm]

Maybe he actually thinks he is by taking this approach.

I believe this to be true. I don't believe that Obama isn't a natural born American citizen, but there is no reason for him to not release it (unless he really isn't a natural born citizen). It does seem suspicious that he would prefer to spend money to keep it sealed. Besides, we have to show every bit of information to the damned government, so I don't care about violating the privacy of our masters one bit.

 

[AxisMundi]

I believe this to be true. I don't believe that Obama isn't a natural born American citizen, but there is no reason for him to not release it (unless he really isn't a natural born citizen). It does seem suspicious that he would prefer to spend money to keep it sealed. Besides, we have to show every bit of information to the damned government, so I don't care about violating the privacy of our masters one bit.

There is no law stating a sitting POTUS must release his personal information to the general public. The president also enjoys the 4th Amendment.

We the People, his Employers, enjoy no right to demand said personal information.

Even still, BHO did release his short form, a government document that does indeed prove birth within our borders, and is good enough to acquire any other government document, including passports, and/or any other government services.

This entire Birther nonsense is a mere distraction generated by people who do not like the democratic process when their side isn't in the Oval Office. They did it with Slick Willie to try and circumvent the wishes of We the People, and they have tried to do it with Bamers as well.

 

[Slutter McGee]

No, it is much more logical to spend millions on attorneys so you don't have to, lol.

Another option exists. If by not releasing it, they can demonize those who demand it, perhaps it is nothing more than a political ploy.

Slutter McGee

 

[TheDriver]

I've never really followed the "birther" stuff that close, and, ironically, this blog was the first time I read or heard that two major newspapers reported Obama's birth in Hawaii.


In the poll they talk about in the video, I would have answered "don't know" but after reading that ^ it removed any doubts I may have had.

 

[Bruno]

I've never really followed the "birther" stuff that close, and, ironically, this blog was the first time I read or heard that two major newspapers reported Obama's birth in Hawaii.


In the poll they talk about in the video, I would have answered "don't know" but after reading that ^ it removed any doubts I may have had.

That doesn't prove a thing. There are conflicting reports on which hospital he was born in, and no idea who the delivering doctor was. There is a long form missing. Obama could make one phone call and release it. Why does he instead spend millions to avoid doing so?

 

[dannno]

Another option exists. If by not releasing it, they can demonize those who demand it, perhaps it is nothing more than a political ploy.

Slutter McGee

Worth spending millions on? How has that worked so far, I heard the last election went pretty bad.. How's Obama's approval rating?

Millions of dollars for a political stunt that probably affects the polls less than .5%... are you shitting me??

 

[TheDriver]

That doesn't prove a thing.

What it proves to me is: that in 1961 little Barack was living in Hawaii. Whether he was born a few days before that or not won't disqualify him in my mind. He's been an American since he was an infant in 1961.

His parents could not have know that they had to make him appear to be a U.S. citizen in 1961, so he could become President in 2008. His mother was from Kansas, for Christ's sake.

But, like I said before I've always been in the "don't know" crowd, as that leaves me with an open-mind, but knowing two newspapers reported about his birth in 1961 makes the birther case much harder to believe or consider, imo.

 

[Bruno]

What it proves to me is: that in 1961 little Barack was living in Hawaii. Whether he was born a few days before that or not won't disqualify him in my mind. He's been an American since he was an infant in 1961.

His parents could not have know that they had to make him appear to be a U.S. citizen in 1961, so he could become President in 2008. His mother was from Kansas, for Christ's sake.

But, like I said before I've always been in the "don't know" crowd, as that leaves me with an open-mind, but knowing two newspapers reported about his birth in 1961 makes the birther case much harder to believe or consider, imo.

Your mind is not the Constitution.

 

[Anti Federalist]

There is no law stating a sitting POTUS must release his personal information to the general public. The president also enjoys the 4th Amendment.

We the People, his Employers, enjoy no right to demand said personal information.

Natural born citizenship is a job requirement.

Are you telling me that an employer can't ask to see an applicant's college degree or professional licenses required by law to do the job?

My jury is still out on the birth issue.

I look at it this way: even if it could be determined that he is constitutionally disqualified from holding the chief executives job, nothing would change anyway.

It's not like anybody within the District of Criminals follows the Constitution in any meaningful way anymore...

 

[Bruno]

Another option exists. If by not releasing it, they can demonize those who demand it, perhaps it is nothing more than a political ploy.

Slutter McGee

Not likely.

 

[AxisMundi]

Natural born citizenship is a job requirement.

Are you telling me that an employer can't ask to see an applicant's college degree or professional licenses required by law to do the job?

My jury is still out on the birth issue.

I look at it this way: even if it could be determined that he is constitutionally disqualified from holding the chief executives job, nothing would change anyway.

It's not like anybody within the District of Criminals follows the Constitution in any meaningful way anymore...

"Natural born citizenship is a job requirement." His credentials in that area are intact. He is a natural born citizen of these here United States of America.

He was born within the United States to a US citizen. His short form was released to the public in an effort to quell this nonsense and there are two newspaper announcements as well.

What has the other side claimed?

Forgery, dismissed by the Hawaiian State government.
Kenyan BC, turned out to be an Australian BC.
And a lot of empty accusation.

His short form, which is what you will receive when you ask for a copy of your BC in many states, is simply good enough.

 

[klamath]

What it proves to me is: that in 1961 little Barack was living in Hawaii. Whether he was born a few days before that or not won't disqualify him in my mind. He's been an American since he was an infant in 1961.

His parents could not have know that they had to make him appear to be a U.S. citizen in 1961, so he could become President in 2008. His mother was from Kansas, for Christ's sake.
But, like I said before I've always been in the "don't know" crowd, as that leaves me with an open-mind, but knowing two newspapers reported about his birth in 1961 makes the birther case much harder to believe or consider, imo.

I am not a birther but there are probably 10 million mexican babies intentionally born in America because there are quite a few benefits being born an American over a Mexican or Kenyan. His mother could not have been so stupid to think there would be any advantage to Barry, being born in Kenya.

 

[Bruno]

"Natural born citizenship is a job requirement." His credentials in that area are intact. He is a natural born citizen of these here United States of America.

He was born within the United States to a US citizen. His short form was released to the public in an effort to quell this nonsense and there are two newspaper announcements as well.

What has the other side claimed?

Forgery, dismissed by the Hawaiian State government.
Kenyan BC, turned out to be an Australian BC.
And a lot of empty accusation.

His short form, which is what you will receive when you ask for a copy of your BC in many states, is simply good enough.

The whole argument is that he was not born in the U.S. The short form released is not sufficient, as it does not show the doctor or hospital of birth. The short form is one given to nearly anyone, without proof. It's not even a copy of the original. The newspaper announcements prove nothing, you can call in and announce the birth of your child.