Chris Christie on Friday vetoed a bill that would allow same-sex couples to wed

You're using a copout. You don't give a damn about the size of government on this issue, you give a damn about your personal religious view and seeing to it that gays don't have the same rights as you do.

It has nothing to do with my "religious views." Marriage is what it's been for the last 2,000 years. It's a union between a man and a woman. But gays can still do whatever they want to do in their own personal lives. I don't care if gays want to live together, sleep together, or even serve in the military. But it's not necessary at all for the government to actually recognize their relationship.
 
Lol, beautiful. You can tell gays they can't have the same rights as you, but get your panties in a wad when someone calls you on it? Oh noes, you're being discriminated against!

Gays already have the same rights as everyone else. You promote extra rights, not equal rights.
 
It has nothing to do with my "religious views." Marriage is what it's been for the last 2,000 years. It's a union between a man and a woman. But gays can still do whatever they want to do in their own personal lives. I don't care if gays want to live together, sleep together, or even serve in the military. But it's not necessary at all for the government to actually recognize their relationship.

Yes, that's straights only, damnit! It's like those damn Negroes trying to eat at whites only joints back in the 70's. They just don't understand, it's the way it's been for a long time, just leave it be!
 
Yes, that's straights only, damnit! It's like those damn Negroes trying to eat at whites only joints back in the 70's. They just don't understand, it's the way it's been for a long time, just leave it be!

Race and homosexuality are two entirely different issues. People are born black, but homosexuality is simply a behavior, not something that people are born with.
 
But is there really any doubt why Ron has so much trouble with Republicans, when some of his supporters bash anybody who dares to have a conservative political ideology?
 
Race and homosexuality are two entirely different issues. People are born black, but homosexuality is simply a behavior, not something that people are born with.

Lol, now we're getting to it. They're just hethens who need you to save them, right? They need to be 're-educated' to get the gay out?
 
But is there really any doubt why Ron has so much trouble with Republicans, when some of his supporters bash anybody who dares to have a conservative political ideology?

If by conservative political ideology you mean hating gays and brown people, or wanting to wage war, then nope, not at all.
 
Well if you want to make everything equal, what's wrong with the marriage bill? Then gay and hetero can both call it a marriage.

Because it closes government's fist over our rights. Why do you think giving the government the power to regulate who you have a relationship with, how many you have a relationship with, when you have that relationship, and what you do within that relationship, is a good thing? Gay marriage is just the liberal argument to finalize its power over your personal life.
 
If by conservative political ideology you mean hating gays and brown people, or wanting to wage war, then nope, not at all.

I don't support waging war, and I don't "hate" anybody.

You on the other hand, are a vicious smear merchant who personally attacks anybody who dares to have a different political opinion than you do. There's no point in having a conversation with someone who can't debate an issue, but simply launches into hateful personal attacks. I'm out.
 
I don't support waging war, and I don't "hate" anybody.

You on the other hand, are a vicious smear merchant who personally attacks anybody who dares to have a different political opinion than you do. There's no point in having a conversation with someone who can't debate an issue, but simply launches into hateful personal attacks. I'm out.

You're denying an entire group of HUMANS rights afforded to another group of humans with NO justification whatsoever, and anyone who questions you is a vicious smear merchant who personally attacks you?

My heart bleeds for you.
 
The country going to hell in a hand basket... Peeps homes and property being stolen by the United Nationa, aka the United State of America.. and all the lard ass has to focus on... is fear of two people committing to a relationship and loving each other.

I say outlaw fat people Christie.. You can kiss my ass tub boat.. I believe tomorrow, we need a new law to watch what tubby eats... And that fat bastard said he was "tea party" lmao... funny as shit.. bann gay people today, bann fat people tomorrow.

Goodbye Christie...
 
You're denying an entire group of HUMANS rights afforded to another group of humans with NO justification whatsoever, and anyone who questions you is a vicious smear merchant who personally attacks you?

Are you talking about the heteros that are denied the right to have a civil union in NJ?
 
Are you talking about the heteros that are denied the right to have a civil union in NJ?

Yes, I'm with you on that too specs. I completely agree that government should be wholesale out of the marriage business, but so long as it is there is no reason to discriminate. If straights can marry, gays can marry. If gays can get civil union, straigts can get civil union.
 
Yes, we wouldn't want filthy gays with the same rights as decent and pure people, right?

And you're all about limited government, except when it benefits your personal viewpoint...

For the last time government does not grant rights. Rights are inherent to you as a human being. Government exists to protect our rights from people who wish to infringe upon them.
 
Why do Christians pick and choose from the bible? They aren't trying to ban divorce, adultery, polyester, tattoos or associating with women on there period.... Yet things like gay marriage, which isn't even mentioned in the bible, they try so hard to keep illegal.
 
For the last time government does not grant rights. Rights are inherent to you as a human being. Government exists to protect our rights from people who wish to infringe upon them.

For the last time the State, by it's very existence, violates natural rights, self ownership and individual sovereignty. The notion that a body that destroys rights (government) exists only to protect rights is beyond ludicrous.
 
For the last time the State, by it's very existence, violates natural rights, self ownership and individual sovereignty. The notion that a body that destroys rights (government) exists only to protect rights is beyond ludicrous.

Then have fun in your make-believe world where government doesn't exist.
 
For the last time government does not grant rights. Rights are inherent to you as a human being. Government exists to protect our rights from people who wish to infringe upon them.

Yes, like Chris Christie and those who voted yes on prop 8.
 
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