Chicago teachers to go on strike

Okay, Chicago school union protesters have gone too far

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Am I the only one at least partially agreeing with the strike?

Government workers shouldn't strike. In fact, there shouldn't even be government unions. A union is to protect workers from an evil corporation. The government is to keep people safe and protected. The government is already protecting the workers. If a person doesn't want to do a job, leave the job.
 
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Government workers shouldn't strike. In fact, there shouldn't even be government unions. A union is to protect workers from an evil corporation. The government is to keep people safe and protected. There is no need for the union. If a person doesn't want to do a job, leave the job.
There's a paradox for yah!


Here's the what lit the fuse: http://www.suntimes.com/news/marin/15081962-452/rahm-emanuel-picked-this-fight-with-teachers.html

Rahm Emanuel picked this fight with teachers
BY CAROL MARIN [email protected] September 11, 2012 7:14PM

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Mayor Rahm Emanuel speaks Tuesday at a news conference at Tarkington School of Excellence in Chicago as Principal Vincent Iturrald listens. | M. Spencer Green~AP



Updated: September 12, 2012 2:26AM


Rahm Emanuel started a fight with teachers that only he can finish.
In his 2011 campaign for mayor, he took the Chicago Teachers Union on as an adversary rather than attempt to make them a partner. He opted for a blunt instrument rather than a finessed approach. In hammering home how he was “for the children,” he left the implication that teachers were not.
And then, shortly after his election, Emanuel went to Springfield to get Senate Bill 7 passed. Touted as education reform, it was really an anti-collective bargaining measure, setting up a 75 percent vote threshold for union members to authorize a strike.

“No other union in the history in America has ever had to hit a 75 percent vote of membership,” said Bob Bruno, a University of Illinois at Chicago professor and director of the Labor Education Program.



Jonah Edelman, executive director of the deep-pocketed, pro-business group Stand for Children, was caught on video gloating about its legislative victory, saying: “The unions cannot strike in Chicago. . . . They will never be able to muster the 75 percent threshold.”


Though Edelman later publicly regretted his bravado, his agenda clearly is on behalf of the privatization of public education. And of charter schools. Even though the metrics of charter-school performance mirror the highs and lows of neighborhood public schools.
“I ran the numbers when I was at CPS,” said Terry Mazany, former interim CPS superintendent and CEO of the Chicago Community Trust. “Charters, based on . . . being freed from restrictions of bureaucracy, should be knocking the socks off neighborhood schools. But they’re not. It’s a dead heat.”
And while there is, in this tortuuous contract fight, a lot of talk about making teachers more accountable — a good thing — there is no talk from the mayor about making charters similarly accountable. Charter schools are taxpayer-funded, but they’re not closely overseen by the Chicago Board of Education.
Nobody argues Chicago isn’t in dire financial straits. Or that our schoolchildren aren’t in desperate need of every advantage we can muster for them.
But teachers have been demonized to such an extent that it has led us to this strike.
“The elephant in the room is respect,” Mazany said.
And so Chicago teachers did exactly what Edelman thought impossible. They blew past the 75 percent barrier and got a 90 percent strike vote.
For the moment, according to a new poll by McKeon & Associates, more of Chicago’s registered voters support the strike than oppose it, 47 percent to 39 percent, with 14 percent undecided.
According to the survey, only 19 percent believe the mayor is doing an excellent or good job handling the strike, with nearly three quarters rating him at average, below average or poor.
I don’t know what kind of advice the mayor has been getting. But it should not have brought us to this Armageddon moment.
 
Government workers shouldn't strike. In fact, there shouldn't even be government unions. A union is to protect workers from an evil corporation. The government is to keep people safe and protected. There is no need for the union. If a person doesn't want to do a job, leave the job.

I really don't see the point of any union, government or private. If you don't like your job, go somewhere else. You shouldn't be allowed to blackmail a company to give you something you don't earn. Companies should have the option of whether or not they allow unions.
 
I really don't see the point of any union, government or private. If you don't like your job, go somewhere else. You shouldn't be allowed to blackmail a company to give you something you don't earn. Companies should have the option of whether or not they allow unions.

Public schools are not "companies".
 
Public schools are not "companies".

Read the post I was responding to. He pointed out that unions were there to protect people from evil corporations. I was pointing out that even in the private sector, no company should be forced into allowing unions.
 
Here's Gary North's solution to the strike.

http://www.garynorth.com/public/10049.cfm

How to Break the Chicago Teachers Strike in 7 Days
Gary North

Reality Check (Sept. 11, 2012)

"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. Things that we had postponed for too long, that were long-term, are now immediate and must be dealt with. This crisis provides the opportunity for us to do things that you could not do before." -- Rahm Emanuel (Nov. 2008).
He said that when he was President Obama's Chief of staff. Today, he is Mayor of Chicago. The teachers union is on strike. 350,000 students have no schools to go to. They are being looked after in churches and other private facilities.

If he were not a screaming liberal, he could solve this in 7 days. It requires a 30-day program to make it stick. Permanently.

Here is Dr. North's sure-fire 30-day remedy for any teachers' strike.

AN ANNOUNCEMENT

First, the Mayor cites the statement sent by Governor Calvin Coolidge to Samuel Gompers, head of the American Federation of Labor, in 1919 during the strike of the Boston police. "There is no right to strike against the public safety by anyone, anywhere, any time." That phrase made him famous nationally. The next year, he was nominated as Vice President by the Republican Party. He was elected in 1920. He became President when Harding died in 1923. He then oversaw the boom of the 1920s. His career rested on that telegram.

The public knows that this policy is right morally. Public employees are highly paid -- far higher than the private sector. They do not work as hard or as long as private sector employees do. They are protected from being fired. They get this in exchange for not striking. As soon as any public employees' union threatens a strike, it is fair game politically. The politicians can and should refuse to negotiate.

We are living in the last days of public employees unions. Their pensions are breaking city, county, and state governments. There will be widespread defaults. The way to escape is to declare bankruptcy. Voters have had enough -- more than enough. Governor Scott Walker and the Wisconsin legislature called the unions' bluff in 2011. They passed legislation outlawing union strikes. The state's unions tried to recall him in June, 2012. They failed. This is in a traditionally pro-union state, right next door to Illinois. The public employee unions are now a paper tiger. It is time to challenge them if they threaten to strike. All of them. Every time.

REPLACEMENTS

Second, he says that the city will hire up to 11,000 new teachers in 30 days, and will not hire any presently employed teacher in the future who remains on strike one week from today. There will be no exceptions. This was Reagan's strategy in 1981 when PATCO, the air traffic controllers union, walked out. He gave them a deadline, and he stuck to it. He replaced every worker who failed to be on the job on the deadline day. He broke the union. The voters were happy to see it go.

The Mayor then invites any unemployed certified teacher in the United States to send in a job application form to him personally. He places the form on his newly created blog. He tells them to send the filled-in forms to the Mayor's office, Chicago, Illinois. He says that the jobs will be granted at entry-level pay, that class size will be 33 to 1, and that the jobs are non-tenure-track jobs. He announces that there will be no future tenure-track jobs left in the city of Chicago. Any teachers who are willing to replace the fired teachers of Chicago will be given preference in the future, but that the school board reserves the right from this time on to fire any teacher who asks too much in pay.

There are something like 500,000 unemployed or barely employed certified teachers in the United States today. The White House estimate is 300,000 jobs lost since 2008, with at least 280,000 jobs at risk in 2012. The Mayor's biggest problem within 48 hours will be to sort through the mountain of job requests coming in to his office.

SALARIES ONLINE

Third, the Mayor tells parents to look up the salary of each teacher who teaches their children. This information is online, but few people in Illinois know this. The Mayor promotes it: http://www.openthebooks.com. He reminds them that this is with four months' paid vacation, plus retirement benefits.

He should be sure to set up a site that shows what the retirement benefits are.

He says that this is the new policy for every employee of the city. There will be transparency. Anyone wishing to work for less, who has the same credentials, can submit a job application at any time.

See how the unions like this new policy: police, fire, etc.

STUDENT/TEACHER RATIO

Fourth, the Mayor emphasizes the student/teacher ratio in the city. At present, there are 350,000 students in the city. There are 29,000 teachers. This is a student-teacher ratio of 12 to 1. When I was in school, long before the days when the American Federation of Teachers had any clout, the average class size was about 33 students. The new classroom size for Chicago will therefore be 33 students. This means that the city will need a maximum of 10,600 teachers. But, just to have some teachers in reserve, the city will hire 11,000.

DEADLINE; 7 DAYS

Fifth, one week and one day later, after the deadline issued by the Mayor for teachers to come back to school, every teacher who was not on duty in his or her class the previous day will be issued notification of permanent firing by the city's Board of Education. The list of these people will be posted on the Mayor's blog site.

The Board of Education will begin sorting through the job applications. This will not be necessary, however. In all likelihood, more than 11,000 teachers will have broken the picket lines the day before, and will be in their classrooms ready to teach.

NO MORE STRIKES

Sixth, the Mayor on day 30 holds a press conference. He brings in the stack of job applications. It will be a very tall stack. It will probably fill several desks with piles of applications 3 feet tall.

He then announces to the public that the past pay scales were unfair to taxpayers. He repeats the statement of Calvin Coolidge. He says that no teacher in the city of Chicago will be kept on the payroll who joins any strike in the future, for any reason.

He tells the public that their children are going to be well taught, and that he will not tolerate any union action that threatens the continuity of teaching for the children of the city.

BALANCING THE BUDGET

Seventh, he shows that the new pay schedule will begin to balance the school board's budget, which is estimated at $1 billion a year for the next three years. He says that the school board will bring the budget into balance.

COSTS OF ADMINISTRATION

Eighth, he announces a new policy. This new policy is that only 20% of the total school budget will be allocated to administration. At least 80% of the school budget will be allocated to the teachers and support employees like janitors. He then announces that existing administrators will either suffer massive pay cuts, or else they will leave the employment in the city of Chicago and seek employment elsewhere.

The new policy will begin in the following school term. He announces that any administrator who wishes to leave will be given a letter of recommendation, but that any administrator who fails to report for duty in the following August will be permanently fired, and a letter will be placed in his employment file stating that he refused to work.

SETTING FIRE TO A PAPER TIGER

This plan would end strikes on a permanent basis in the city of Chicago. This strategy will end the power of the American Federation of Teachers in every city or town that implements it. The American Federation of Teachers is a cartel, and the supply of available certified teachers who are unemployed is so huge that you might call these people the reserve army of the unemployed.

The American Federation of teachers is a paper tiger. It has no clout that is not given to it by boards of education. If the National Labor Relations Board seeks to sue a town, the town should simply say that it will not cooperate, and that if the state wants to shut down the public schools, that is the decision of the state.

At that point, school boards across the country should begin to promote homeschool public education based on the web. They would begin to promote the Khan Academy, which is free of charge. The student-teacher ratio for home schooling in high schools is easily 40 to 1. There are no disciplinary problems with home schooled students. For every home school teacher, the district can fire at least two high school teachers. Online education is as effective academically as face-to-face education in public schools. (http://bit.ly/OnlineEd2011)

The school boards would begin to promote other free web-based teaching materials. They could get rid of expensive textbooks.

No school board would ever again be bullied by the American Federation of Teachers.

This strategy could easily break the teachers union. The teachers union does not have the ability to resist this. The board can go through the motions of negotiating, in order to keep the National Labor Relations Board happy, or at least silent, but the reality is this. No school board will ever again tolerate a strike. Every school board will increase class teaching sized 33 students per teacher in a classroom, or 40-to-1 online.

All school boards should cut the percentage of the budget going to administration to 20%. The rest of the money will go to the teachers, or the janitors, or the school buses, but it will not go to administration. The teachers will all get pay raises, even though class sizes increase. That will break the American Federation of Teachers, and it will break the administrations, which are not represented by a labor union. The administration is management, and therefore the administration is helpless.

CONCLUSION

All of this should be obvious, and all of it is doable. The fact that it is not done in every school district in America is indicative of just how weak school boards are, and how they can be buffaloed by an impotent labor union that is threatened by 500,000 ready-to-work certified teachers.

The American Federation of Teachers is a paper tiger. I have just produced a match. It is time to strike the match.
 
I have no idea about cost of living there--is that really significantly higher?

Please don't blast education. People who choose that field take the vacation time in lieu of the pay cut compared to other fields like engineers.

Check out GRE scores by profession. I thought Education would be on the bottom but they edged out "Public Administration" by a substantial margin.

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Yes, government wants to "forgive" the loans of the least capable, worst "investments".

Fuck 'em!


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Interesting posts and ideas, the ones above. Rahm obviously has the power to end this if he wants to, he just doesn't want to.

Come on Hornet, if kids don't learn art history, society as we know it would collapse. We need as many Art History professors as we can get!
 
I'm likely to be against teacher strikes, but there is something legit to this one (unless I'm misunderstanding)! They cut back raises that are built in (4% per year is not much considering it's the only raise teachers can get) to nothing and then added 90 minutes to the student day (adding close to2 hours to the teacher's work day b/c the teacher now has to plan for, keep grades for, etc. this extra time.) And for this extra 1.5-2 hours of work per day they want to give them a 2% pay raise! (which is half what the teachers would normally get!) If I followed that right, I understand why they are upset.
 
I'm likely to be against teacher strikes, but there is something legit to this one (unless I'm misunderstanding)! They cut back raises that are built in (4% per year is not much considering it's the only raise teachers can get) to nothing and then added 90 minutes to the student day (adding close to2 hours to the teacher's work day b/c the teacher now has to plan for, keep grades for, etc. this extra time.) And for this extra 1.5-2 hours of work per day they want to give them a 2% pay raise! (which is half what the teachers would normally get!) If I followed that right, I understand why they are upset.

Do some more research, and you will learn that cps teachers are very well paid glorified babysitters. Private teachers DO NOT receive this type of compensation. I went to a small christian school in the middle of the state where most of the starting teachers were making near 30k with very basic healthcare and no retirement benefits. If anyone should get paid more, its these teachers. However, it is hard to pay private school teachers when all of our property tax is going to subsidize the public union thugs.
 
Do some more research, and you will learn that cps teachers are very well paid glorified babysitters. Private teachers DO NOT receive this type of compensation. I went to a small christian school in the middle of the state where most of the starting teachers were making near 30k with very basic healthcare and no retirement benefits. If anyone should get paid more, its these teachers. However, it is hard to pay private school teachers when all of our property tax is going to subsidize the public union thugs.

Yep! Imagine working for a business where your competition has double the pay taken by force from your customer base, but then you still have to convince people to buy your product on top of the product they already paid for. The government cheese has to stink really bad for a business like that to survive.
 
The real tragedy is that this will make no difference in the lives on the students.
 
Do some more research, and you will learn that cps teachers are very well paid glorified babysitters. Private teachers DO NOT receive this type of compensation. I went to a small christian school in the middle of the state where most of the starting teachers were making near 30k with very basic healthcare and no retirement benefits. If anyone should get paid more, its these teachers. However, it is hard to pay private school teachers when all of our property tax is going to subsidize the public union thugs.

Yup, this. My sister is a teacher at a christian private school with 4 years experience. She makes somewhere in the high 30s / year and this is in the Boston area.

These teachers are way overpaid. They only get this because of the union and coercion via the public school system.
 
How I see it:

I support the government on providing school education, because not all kids have parents who actually want to work. Most parents put those kids there as a daycare of not wanting them. But we have to understand that although KhanAcademny and other sites are good, many parents will not work and how will these kids get an education? Many people will go and "well this country never had a system of education", but we have to remember that literacy rates were low during that time. I'm not saying that the teachers are wrong nor right, but we should see what the contract has been put out, if they were expected a raise, we give it to them, hence forth A CONTRACT. If they are just complaining like some OWS, then Reagon them.

BTW: I use virtual school and IRL highschool, I tried the charter school system, they f'd me up pretty bad. I never really learned anything, they fired all the teachers every year, very misorganized. Now I have to fight with the broward county of education to change my GPA because the charter school didn't update my GPA from a D to a C, B to an A, and C to a B. If I were in a public school, I would have done AP's, gotten dual enrollement, attended clubs, and done much more (although I started a bible club in that school, but it was not pretty). So if you guys say lets take out education from government, let it be known how the private sector screwed me up bad, why? Because their capitalists, all they care about is the amount of money I bring in the school, at least the state cares about what test scores I got.
 
Because their capitalists, all they care about is the amount of money I bring in the school, at least the state cares about what test scores I got.

And yet, the more the State cares, the lower test scores become.
 
How I see it:

I support the government on providing school education, because not all kids have parents who actually want to work. Most parents put those kids there as a daycare of not wanting them. But we have to understand that although KhanAcademny and other sites are good, many parents will not work and how will these kids get an education? Many people will go and "well this country never had a system of education", but we have to remember that literacy rates were low during that time. I'm not saying that the teachers are wrong nor right, but we should see what the contract has been put out, if they were expected a raise, we give it to them, hence forth A CONTRACT. If they are just complaining like some OWS, then Reagon them.

BTW: I use virtual school and IRL highschool, I tried the charter school system, they f'd me up pretty bad. I never really learned anything, they fired all the teachers every year, very misorganized. Now I have to fight with the broward county of education to change my GPA because the charter school didn't update my GPA from a D to a C, B to an A, and C to a B. If I were in a public school, I would have done AP's, gotten dual enrollement, attended clubs, and done much more (although I started a bible club in that school, but it was not pretty). So if you guys say lets take out education from government, let it be known how the private sector screwed me up bad, why? Because their capitalists, all they care about is the amount of money I bring in the school, at least the state cares about what test scores I got.

Private schools today are shit because of government involvement. If the government just got out of the way, private school quality would go way up while prices go down, and the time spent in school would go down.
 
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