CBS News "National Security" Debate Thread

[MJU1983]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_6ZNNx6g2Q

https://twitter.com/#!/goodinohio/status/135583108182446080

 

[devil21]

I would just love to see a picture of this.

His gesture reminded me of this picture but of course RP's gesture was more subdued:

Did you happened to catch what happened at the end? Did Ron leave right after the debate? We saw him quickly walk off the stage.

I think he did leave quickly as I tried to spy him on the stage on my way out and didn't see him or Carol or Jesse Benton (easy to spot because he's a large guy) anywhere. I can't be sure of that though.

 

[georgiaboy]

...video...

oh man.

 

[affa]

I feel like the media would like Ron to go third party. No one would think he'd win, he'd make a more competitive race between Obama and w/e republican, ect. ect. There's no reason for me to think the media wouldn't be happy with a RP 3rd party run. I think that should be a super last resort. Lets try and win Iowa first

No Republican other than Ron Paul can possibly beat Obama.
If Ron Paul runs 3rd party, they will simply blame Ron Paul when the inevitable occurs.
Ron Paul does not need to run 3rd party to siphon votes; we're writing him in anyway.

 

[georgiaboy]

I dvr'd it but thanks to this thread it ain't worth watching.
I've only been following paul since may and I am in no way shocked by this and cant underatand how evweyone else seems to be. Another thing I find amazing is the ammount of effort folks want to put into emailing and boycotts rather than completely bypassing the biased media and donating for ads and direct mailings. If you can't afford to donate or want to do more start calling for the campaign NOW.

All this blackout garbage is just pregame trash. Let them ignore. Let them spin. Let them lie. They only control the pregame. The voters are the ones that win or lose the actual game and its our job to help win the actual game.
They can ignore him and say he eats kittens right up to his nomination if they want. All we need to do is keep winning elections.
So start donating calling mailing and canvassing.
That's how to fight back.

exactly right!

 

[revgen]

HDTV Version. From the Full 90 Minute West Coast Broadcast

 

[axlr]

HDTV Version. From the Full 90 Minute West Coast Broadcast

The best damn 5 minutes and 41 seconds of the whole debate.

 

[IterTemporis]

The best damn 5 minutes and 41 seconds of the whole debate.

My 3 favorite parts:

1. The eye roll when the moderator interrupted him.

2. When he said we don't trust a man with our healthcare, yet we trust him with assassinating American citizens.

3. When he said he voted for the authority to go after Bin Laden.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

If you aren't canvassing, you are doing it wrong. If your canvass is not targeted, you are doing it wrong.

 

[WD-NY]

4. The Paul contingent was by far the most enthusiastic and vocal of those in attendence. Seems like a lot of people just go to these things to be there, instead of to support a particular candidate or issue. Some people are genuinely irritated by our enthusiasm which I find strange. Almost as if showing you care is somehow a negative.

Ill add any more I think of.

Question, how did you all not start yelling out for Paul to get another question 30+ minutes after his first 30second answer???

Did you hear any non-Paul supporters say anything about how few questions he received? Do you think any of them thought it was odd and/or not right?

 

[Give me liberty]

If i heard Newt correctly was he advocating killings of civilians in other countries?

 

[Aigik]

If i heard Newt correctly was he advocating killings of civilians in other countries?

Yep. That's why I think that guy in office would be DANGEROUS.

 

[sailingaway]

If i heard Newt correctly was he advocating killings of civilians in other countries?

Yes, as long as some secret decision was made at the white house to do it.

 

[sailingaway]

How would you guys rate his performance? Do you think it brought him down?

Ron was great.

 

[SpicyTurkey]

Ron was great.

Ron didn't have enough time to be great.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

HDTV Version. From the Full 90 Minute West Coast Broadcast

Wow, watching that is a whole different feel; lighter somehow. The complete debate, in contrast, had an oppressive, heavy, depressing atmosphere to me.

I guess that's the difference between non-stop incessant lies, and the truth. I might have to stop watching the complete debates, they're so terrible.

I liked that they put in Bachmann's part, too. They should have had tiny snippets of Cain/Bachmann/Santorum/Romney/(Perry?) saying "oh yeah, enhanced interrogation's OK" too, to put RP's torture answer in context. I wish the Ron Paul highlight videos would always leave in the parts where other candidates are saying something to, about, or relevant to, Ron Paul, or if they do something particularly noteworthy. Just a little bit, not enough to make you sick. For instance, the Perry-forgetting thing should have been in the highlight video from last debate. Just a thought for whoever puts these things together.

 

[devil21]

Question, how did you all not start yelling out for Paul to get another question 30+ minutes after his first 30second answer???

Did you hear any non-Paul supporters say anything about how few questions he received? Do you think any of them thought it was odd and/or not right?

The thought crossed my mind before I even sat down. Ive seen enough of these debates to know how the playbook would work and the urge to yell something of that nature would come up. But in all honesty, when you're there you just don't want to be "that guy". First, because you may get removed (don't taze me bro!....and a woman sitting behind me commented out loud that she hoped us loud Paul people would get removed) or because you'll be demonized by the media (unruly Paulites ruin it for everyone) OR even because even your own fellow supporters ON THIS FORUM EVEN will crap on you soon after for not playing within the rules of "civil behavior". We were vocal behind our candidate and you better believe I wanted to yell out "ASK RON PAUL A F'IN QUESTION!!!" but even the herd mentality affects those of us that aren't really part of the herd, when you're surrounded by the herd. I hope this answers your question. It's not easy to make yourself "that guy."

(eta: no, I didnt hear anything related to the bias of media sponsored debate questioning from audience members. like I said, I think most that attend are there just to be there. they'll vote for whoever tickles their fancy on primary day. they just arent committed to anyone in particular and this is why the media purposely blacks out RP. his message needs to be muted so it doesnt "catch on, Im tellin ya")

 

[Travlyr]

Laugh Out Loud at CBS idiots - "Don't listen to the smart guy... don't bother with the truth or wisdom... kill, kill, kill is what we need to do and it will get our economy going again too. Killing a 16 year old kid is just collateral damage... he would have probably grown up to be a terrorist anyway."

 

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[anaconda]

it is sickly disturbing to see people cheer Gingrich's hitler persona

This is a really good analogy, actually. At least Hitler railed against the international banking cartels when addressing his people. Although, now that I think of it, Newt has been parroting Ron on the Fed somewhat.