Cantor, Brat, and the immigration issue....

[P3ter_Griffin]

There's something seriously wrong with you if you don't think we need to stop immigration from Mexico

How about we agree to end the promise of free everything in order to curb immigrants numbers whom come over for only that reason?

 

[P3ter_Griffin]

Where do I even start.

#1 - "I'm not advocating for walls. I'm advocating for security." Yes, you are advocating for walls because you are denying human beings the freedom to move. It may not be a physical wall but you are forcibly blocking people out one way or the other.

#2 - "For some of you who don't live in border states [...] I say you don't know wtf it's about." I don't need to live in a border state to know that immigration is not the root of the problems there. End drug prohibition and you strike a blow to the cartels. It's the same problems I'm familiar with in Chicago.

#3 - "What's more important to you? Your family's safety or making an ideological point?" Rudy Giulianni, is that you? Guess we better trade in the rest of our freedoms for security according to your logic.

#4 - "Do I need to point out our tax dollars are paying for border patrol agents to sit on their butts and look the other way? How's that waste of tax dollars sitting with you?" - Um, how about you not steal my tax dollars and just allow people to freely interact with one another on their private property?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to NIU Students for Liberty again.

 

[Keith and stuff]

I am glad Cantor got the boot, he needed it.

But I wish it had been over an issue other than illegal immigration.

Thoughts?

Rand Paul made it clear that it wasn't over immigration.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Cantor, a reliable 'yes' vote for raising the H-1B visa cap, is unseated - Computerworld

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

 

[56ktarget]

He didnt lose because of immigration. In fact, 70% of voters in his district support a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. More spin-doctoring by the paulites on this forum.

 

[RonPaulMall]

He didnt lose because of immigration. In fact, 70% of voters in his district support a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. More spin-doctoring by the paulites on this forum.

Interesting that a district where 70% of the voters support Amnesty would vote for a guy who made opposition to amnesty the centerpiece of his campaign.

 

[acptulsa]

He didnt lose because of immigration. In fact, 70% of voters in his district support a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. More spin-doctoring by the paulites on this forum.

Um, reading comprehension problems much?

One, shall we say, alleged 'paulite' alleged that's what it was about and has been called on it repeatedly in this very thread. But, you know, don't let facts get in the way of your narrative or anything. No point in breaking with tradition.

 

[Matt Collins]

Rand Paul made it clear that it wasn't over immigration.

Now that the dust has settled, it may have in fact not been over illegal immigration. However that's what was originally being touted either due to ignorance or an agenda. Sometimes though in politics perception is reality :-/

 

[Carlybee]

How about we agree to end the promise of free everything in order to curb immigrants numbers whom come over for only that reason?

And meanwhile while we wait for that to happen and while we wait for the war on drugs to end, Texas becoming ground zero for Los Zetas and they aren't stopping here either. The cartels are in control of the border.

 

[Southron]

He didnt lose because of immigration. In fact, 70% of voters in his district support a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. More spin-doctoring by the paulites on this forum.

Did this come from the same people who told Cantor he was up 30 points in the polls?

 

[AuH20]

How about we agree to end the promise of free everything in order to curb immigrants numbers whom come over for only that reason?

But you'll see pigs fly before that happens....

 

[eduardo89]

He didnt lose because of immigration. In fact, 70% of voters in his district support a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. More spin-doctoring by the paulites on this forum.

Wow! It seems you can get multiple red reputation bars. Congratulations.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Cantor, a reliable 'yes' vote for raising the H-1B visa cap, is unseated - Computerworld

And that is the relevant point.

Taking the US Chamber of Commerce and Mark Zuckerberg side that immigration "reform" means increasing the cap, during a high unemployment recession, is a losing position.

This is what Dave Brat campaigned on:

 

[mad cow]

Wow! It seems you can get multiple red reputation bars. Congratulations.

56ktarget is off the scale.

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

What , I'm stealing your money ? First off I don't think you even own any property but your property doesn't exist independent of all other properties . You can't do anything you want on your property if it harms others . Whether you like it or not the USA is a nation and we're all apart of it. It's not some no man's land where anyone can just come set up shop


Well actually yeah , all those guys may be lying scum but they all campaigned on conservative principles . The sheep had no choice but to vote for them. I'm pretty sure if the media treated Ron Paul with the same respect they treated Romney and them that all those whites would have voted for him instead

lol stop being so naive


Do you seriously believe in egalitarianism ?

#1 - Yes, you are stealing my money if you need to fund your police state with tax dollars. How else are you going to pay for that kind of operation? And how is having an "illegal" immigrant on one's property harming others if both parties consented? And your collectivist definition of the USA sounds awfully like Mike Huckabee's excuse for the U.S. military having to remain in Iraq because we're one nation. The United States was founded on the notion that anyone CAN come over and set up shop. That was the beauty of it!

#2 - In no way did Romney, McCain, and Bush represent limited government. You can't praise the free market in one breath and then support military adventurism, a police state, and corporate bailouts in another.

#3 - How am I naive? You complain about immigrants supposedly being lazy but yet here is a case in which they're trying to make money through legitimate means and you want to shut them down because they were born on the wrong side of an arbitrary line. How "conservative" of you wanting to restrict free enterprise.

#4 - Oh my!!!! How dare I treat people like individuals and not collective groups!!!! I should be ashamed of myself...