Cannabis lovers

And the replies reflect what a free society should look like, reasonable people with differing answers on a personal issue that can vary wildly from person to person and family to family.
 
Most defiantly i would experience it with him first. The thing people shouldn't concern with, is that the act of sharing it with your son, is some how something, that is supposed to be weird,(according to society's standards),which in reality, they say it only because, this world loves to judge on things that don't mean much, so as they can pretend like there doing something,which allows them to get out of doing anything of any real value.

All you need to do is present it too him as a reasonable adult and explain to him the pros and cons.Say its a great way to relax and enjoy the evening,that its also a good way to meditate on the deeper things in life.Then just tell him that the cons are you never want to be under the power of anything explaining that all things should be done in moderation regardless of whether its smoking pot, eating or drinking.I would also explain too him,that you need to be prepared to accept any of the consequences that may come, as a result of using pot Then id tell him if he understood and agreed to all that, "lets go try some together."
 
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A large factor you have to consider are the neurological effects on a developing brain - the last thing I'd want is for my kids development to be impacted negatively. I will say, however, what everyone else has said is true. You have to be straightforward with your kids and stop trying to scare them into acting correctly. Be honest about the issue, and try to explain to them that while they ultimately have to make their own decisions, you're trying to look out for them and keep them as healthy as possible.
 
Would you as a supporter of cannabis introduce your extremely focused academically advanced 15 year old adolescent who is physically fit, a logical thinker, a totally great person with absolutely no evident flaws to cannabis?

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with cannabis. Smoking in and of itself may not be helpful, but cannabis itself is.
 
Why is the OP considering this?
Doesn't he (the child) have better things to do?
Are you also going to provide him with good music? :p


 
I hit my first J at 16. I was full of government propaganda, DARE programs, and very worried about the "gateway effect", but there was this cute girl...

I didn't learn the truth about cannabis until about 15 years of on and off again use (I had some jobs that randomly tested). I never tried any other illegal drugs. I was never really comfortable with smoking, even though cannabis was a gateway to cigarettes, a habit I've kicked for over a decade now. With vaporization and edibles being so easy to use/make, I'd would start someone off on a vape just to make it even safer.
 
2 young 4 me-unless it is for legit med purposes

let his mind grow naturally a while longer

...its not like getting laid or anything :)
 
Would you as a supporter of cannabis introduce your extremely focused academically advanced 15 year old adolescent who is physically fit, a logical thinker, a totally great person with absolutely no evident flaws to cannabis?

"Introduce"??
At 15,, if not totally isolated,, they have already been introduced. They have had propaganda pushed on them since at least Kindergarten and most certainly through the media.

Do you mean "educated".??

I have a question.. At what age do you think you should stop lying to your children?
About anything..
 
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"Introduce"??
At 15,, if not totally isolated,, they have already been introduced. They have had propaganda pushed on them since at least Kindergarten and most certainly through the media.

Do you mean "educated".??

I have a question.. At what age do you think you should stop lying to your children?
About anything..
This kid is aware of all the issues I feel are relevant. He has been exposed to the corrupt police state and corrupt government. He has been warned that what is presented in school may not be factual. When in 7th grade one of his teachers said he should join a debate team because he always has a valid argument and can withstand the opposition. Obviously this kid has heard all the propaganda regarding pot and knows how I feel about its use. I have never indulged in his presence and he would have no reason to think that on occasion I would. I rarely use it these days and when I do it is with a homemade vape system. I just put a pan on the stove, heat it up, put a glass bottle on top, dump the weed in from the top and viola. The thing is he is real focused on all his academics and is all occupied with good solid activities. He is a runner and swimmer and fascinated with his fitness. He is well liked by everyone and doesn't judge people. I would wonder how a green light to partake in cannabis would affect him. My older brother is a heroin addict and chain smoker. He has probably been addicted to every thing at one point in time. When he was a young adult he caught me with a bag of weed when my parents were away. He thought that was terrible and ratted me out to another brother who ratted me out to the parents. Long story short I introduced him to pot. He ended up dealing pretty large scale weed back in the 70's and even a substantial amount of coke. Guy has been an addict for a long time and has had a rough life. There was a time I had all the illicit drugs for free that I would have ever wanted but after maturing I elected to stay away from many for fear of getting hooked. Every once in awhile I still smoke a little weed. Nowadays I am not sure if the brother is clean or not. Funny thing is that the addict seems baseline sober while using and only gets sick when withdrawing. Hard life on finances and relationships. What would be the benefit for an outstanding 15 year old to use cannabis? Is there more of a risk that the once focused determined driven top of the school individual becomes a pot head with little determination?
 
What would be the benefit for an outstanding 15 year old to use cannabis? Is there more of a risk that the once focused determined driven top of the school individual becomes a pot head with little determination?

I don't really think of it a "benefit" or "detriment".

Some people are prone to addiction,, be it legal drugs, alcohol, Sex,, Food, ect. Some are less prone.
I have known families where Marijuana use was common family life,, the kids didn't smoke,, but would compete amongst themselves to pass the bowl or joint around the room. They were around it from childhood.
I have watched these kids grow into responsible adults, some went to college and others to work.
They have families of their own now, and are well adjusted folks. or as well adjusted as any others in this screwed up world.

I grew up sipping Red Beer on my mothers lap from her glass.
I like beer,, and I can do without it.

I would say be honest with the kids. Pot is by far less harmful than alcohol. And all substances have their uses.
If he is interested,, sit down and burn one with him.. if not,, that's OK too.
Better he learn in a safe environment from someone that cares about him (or her) than from strangers with unknown intent.
 
I would say be honest with the kids. Pot is by far less harmful than alcohol. And all substances have their uses.
If he is interested,, sit down and burn one with him.. if not,, that's OK too.
Better he learn in a safe environment from someone that cares about him (or her) than from strangers with unknown intent.

THIS
 
In Italy, where 6-year-olds commonly are permitted to drink table wine, there are almost no alcoholics at all.

IMHO the majority of drug addiction is driven by the forbidden-fruit temptation. Remove that, remove most of the problem.
 
In Italy, where 6-year-olds commonly are permitted to drink table wine, there are almost no alcoholics at all.

IMHO the majority of drug addiction is driven by the forbidden-fruit temptation. Remove that, remove most of the problem.

Took the words right out of my mouth
 
I have a question.. At what age do you think you should stop lying to your children?
About anything..

I don't lie to my kids at all.
Yesterday I got to hear my 5yo daughter tell the 8yo neighbor boy she didn't want to play cops and robbers because there are no good guys in that game.
(I was bristling with pride.)
The boy didn't understand why she was saying that.
He's also black, and it took all my self control not to blurt out "Go ask your father if cops are always good guys!"
 
I don't lie to my kids at all.
Glad to hear that. It is rare and welcomed.

I have no children. :(
I have been an adopted Grampa to a few. I am always careful about what I don't say to other peoples kids.
Unless they ask me a direct question. ;)
 
In Italy, where 6-year-olds commonly are permitted to drink table wine, there are almost no alcoholics at all.

IMHO the majority of drug addiction is driven by the forbidden-fruit temptation. Remove that, remove most of the problem.

Sort of.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/08/100819112224.htm
Italian Youths Who Drink With Meals Are Less Often Adult Problem-Drinkers


ScienceDaily (Aug. 20, 2010) — Italian youths whose parents allowed them to have alcohol with meals while they were growing up are less likely to develop harmful drinking patterns in the future, according to a new study led by a Boston University School of Public Health (BUSPH) researcher.

But as for having almost no alcoholics at all:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/05/business/global/05italy.html?_r=0
Barrage of New Rules Targets Italy's Drinkers

Adding to legislative efforts to control alcohol consumption is a growing concern about binge drinking among Italian youth that has raised a “social alarm” in the country, said Mr. Giovanardi. In the last 20 years, he said, some 10,000 people under the age of 25 have died from alcohol-related traffic accidents and thousands more have been injured.

“The problem of alcoholism is growing in Italy because we have severed the link between food and drink — now, young people drink to get drunk,” and that creates all sorts of problems for public safety and the proliferation of laws to control the situation, said Edi Sommariva, who is director general of FIPE and a supporter of the E.U. restrictions on sales venues for alcohol.

Alcoholism rates in Italy have tripled since 1996 to the current rate of around 60,000, with just over 10 percent under 29 years of age, said Emanuele Scafato, director of the National Observatory on Alcohol at the National Institute of Health. And even though on paper Italy has an ambitious program to combat alcohol abuse, it is severely underfunded — as opposed to the €169 million, or $243 million, a year invested in advertising in Italy by liquor companies, he said.

Mr. Scafato is part of a national committee that has been lobbying Parliament both to raise the legal drinking age to 18 and to ban the sale of alcohol to minors.

The increase in young drinkers is “something we have never experienced before and that has pressured policy decision makers to do something,” he said.
 
I have concluded that since my son rolls with the outstanding crowd, picks/chooses his friends wisely, and I completely trust him in every regard cause he knows he can be honest with me, I feel that anyone he chooses to experiment with will do so in an educated responsible fashion and there is no need for my intervention at this point. He has been in my presence when old fashioned anti-drug people have spewed their opinions regarding drugs and pot. He has heard me talk about vaporizing weed and how the government has completely slandered (for lack of a better word) it. He also recognizes that obesity is an addiction no different than drug or alcohol addiction and he understands that he doesn't floss his teeth or excel at things for his parents but rather for himself.
 
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