Can we please concentrate on winning Texas?

I just want to clarify something, though. Texas primary is "majority-take-all". If a candidate gets >50%, he gets all the delegates. If not, the delegates' first two votes in the national convention are apportioned among the candidates who get >20% of the vote.

And this is not state-wide, it's by congressional district.
 
I believe we have a very strong chance of winning Austin and Houston.

The difficulty with Texas is it's size... and immense population that is spread so far.

Canvassing will really be important for these smaller, out of the way communities outside of the major cities.
 
How many times have we heard we could win a state and haven't?

lets see...
New Hampshire.
Maine.
Louisiana.
Alaska.

Idk, i just would like to see some hard polling info before we go spreading it around that we can win.
 
How many times have we heard we could win a state and haven't?

lets see...
New Hampshire.
Maine.
Louisiana.
Alaska.

Idk, i just would like to see some hard polling info before we go spreading it around that we can win.

Well we technically won LA. Sure we were overly optimistic, but we are now only realizing how far the elites will go to stop the movement. I think all the dirt we uncovered in this dirty election is enough for any Patriotic American to sit down and be marginalized by the elitists.
 
idk, i just would like to see some hard polling info before we go spreading it around that we can win.

Yeah, I feel you. There is, however, no precedent for a revolution in this nation in the internet age. How are we going to get meaningful numbers on whether we can incite pro-Texas feeling for an admitted also-ran on the basis of his being a homeboy until we try? There are strong arguments for it though. Texas is the one place it can work.

We'd be selling the idea that Dr. Paul can promote the state and look after its interests in the process of brokering the first brokered convention since the primary process was invented. What the hell is Gallup going to tell us about that?

Have a better idea? Shall we just throw up our hands and give up on getting anything more meaningful out of all of our effort to date? Have we had any guarantees of success so far?

I say there's nothing to lose and everything to gain!
 
How many times have we heard we could win a state and haven't?

lets see...
New Hampshire.
Maine.
Louisiana.
Alaska.

Idk, i just would like to see some hard polling info before we go spreading it around that we can win.

Texas is a hard one. And Austin is virtually an island in the middle of the state... surrounded by people who usually vote in complete opposition to us.

I may live in a bit of a vacuum. On my way to work.. I pass 2 huge Ron Paul banners... and about 10 Ron Paul signs in front of various businesses.

Every 4th or 5th house in my neighborhood has a Ron Paul sign in the yard... I see on average... 10-20 Ron Paul bumper stickers just driving around town... Just about every telephone pole within a 5 mile radius of my house has a Ron Paul sign on it... and the local newspaper is already writing articles on Ron Paul.. without having to twist their arm.

And just about everyone I talk to... Is either voting for Ron Paul, knows who Ron Paul is.... Or has at least heard of him.

So it's very hard for me to believe that Ron Paul would not demolish the other candidates here.

But perhaps this is the case in most other cities? and somehow McCain and Romney and Huckabee bring people out of the woodwork? I don't know.
 
Texas is a hard one. And Austin is virtually an island in the middle of the state... surrounded by people who usually vote in complete opposition to us.

I may live in a bit of a vacuum. On my way to work.. I pass 2 huge Ron Paul banners... and about 10 Ron Paul signs in front of various businesses.

Every 4th or 5th house in my neighborhood has a Ron Paul sign in the yard... I see on average... 10-20 Ron Paul bumper stickers just driving around town... Just about every telephone pole within a 5 mile radius of my house has a Ron Paul sign on it... and the local newspaper is already writing articles on Ron Paul.. without having to twist their arm.

And just about everyone I talk to... Is either voting for Ron Paul, knows who Ron Paul is.... Or has at least heard of him.

So it's very hard for me to believe that Ron Paul would not demolish the other candidates here.

But perhaps this is the case in most other cities? and somehow McCain and Romney and Huckabee bring people out of the woodwork? I don't know.

This has been the case in other counties, but Mccain magically brings people to vote for him.
 
Huckabee/McCain are huge up here.

That's the point. No one thinks he can win. This time, we aren't promoting him to win the nomination. We're promoting him to win Texas so he can take 15% of the delegates needed to win to the convention and:

Get Texas publicity.
Send the message not to ignore Texans.
Play peacemaker between Huck and Romney (or just work with Huck) to beat McCain.
Win concessions for Texans in the party platform (whether you think Dr. Paul will play that or not--after all, W made plenty of promises...).
Flex Texas muscles.

And etc. This is a sell that goes right to the heart of Texans, and if sold right it can win that state. Indeed, Texas will be more susceptible to this sort of thing than just about any other state I can think of. What the hell do we have to lose? I say we can win libertarian concessions from the platform committee and the nominee, and I would not be surprised if 182 delegates isn't enough to buy our man Cheney's office.

Why wouldn't we do this?
 
I had literally written a long post in Microsoft Word about Texas, and then when I went to post it, I saw this thread. In the spirit of consolidation, here is the post that I was going to start a new thread for:

I know yesterday did not look good for us. But, sitting back thinking about the situation with my rational mind (which was only possible once the fog of rage at the sheeple lifted from my presence) I realized that what I had seen on the news had affected me exactly as it was intended to affect me. The mainstream media will never give us a fair shake. This means that the sheeple will continue to be clueless unless they're tapped on the forehead with the truth, reminiscent of that V8 juice commercial. We have made headway with tapping those people on the forehead through door-to-door canvassing. Some of those newly awoken sheeple are so inspired that they join you in canvassing, but this is still the absolute least efficient way of winning votes. Why do you think the MSM has evolved to be the powerhouse of influence that it so clearly is? Because it works, and to add insult to injury, it is all too easy to do. They have become masters, neigh, artisans or craftsmen, even sculptors, molding public opinion in whatever ungodly image the "people" running the networks wish to create that day. I need not site examples; if you're here, you know that the sheeple are not being told the whole truth about their voting options, so I need not waste time with citations backing up the above assumption.

So, since we see that they are masters at what they do, and that the system by which they disseminate the influence they possess is so effective at reaching the masses of the populace, any effort to reach as many people as the media are able to reach will be so exponentially less efficient that it is near-impossible to overcome.

Now that I believe I've shown the opposition's advantages (ability to reach the vast majority of the populace easily, ability to omit facts and sculpt public opinion with ease), I must mention our advantages. Firstly, when we do canvass, people tend to listen even more closely to us than if they were to listen to the t.v. casually; a person who decides who they're voting for the week, night, or day of, an election. They may not watch cable news networks 1 (or more) hour (s) a day, but they catch the evening news. Now, when you are talking to this person, you have an advantage over the MSM. These people will listen to you because you're their "neighbor" and you've taken the time to knock on their door and be friendly (and you don't look like a damn hippie). Someone who is a hardcore neocon or warmonger, wish them well and move on. Anyway, the second advantage that we have is that once someone's turned on to Dr. Paul, they won't fall for another scumbag politicians' lies ever again, and might just have an impact you'll never know about. They may turn on countless others, run for office, or a host of other possibilities. We have the most kick-ass grassroots in the history of political campaigns. Seriously. This is un-prececented. Some have mentioned that Lincoln went into the convention with the 22 delegates from his state and took the convention. Think about that. He was able to pour his resources into just one state and take the nomination with that core support. Imagine if that's all we had to do. I don't know all the rules, but I've heard that we have to win at least five states to be invited. That makes each of the coming primaries and caucuses vitally important.

Going into a brokered convention we have a distinct advantage: OUR MESSAGE! At the convention, things are different, people take a good hard look at the nitty gritty of nominating each candidate and the chance each has of beating the democratic nominee. There we have another advantage. Dr. Paul has the most chance of getting crossover votes from the Dems. Plain and simple. I can't imagine another Republican having a better shot against Hillabama than Dr. Paul. Imagine the debates with just Hillabama Vs. Dr. Paul. Equal talking time, identical questions, and the time Dr. Paul needs to jolt the sheeple out of their soft sociofacist comas and re-introduce the concept of liberty and how it would be different to have a government restrained by the people instead of being people restrained by their government. The debates are the great equalizer that will win the general for us. The only way that we will be significant in those debates is if we get the nomination. Even IF we went third party, and even IF we were allowed to get into the debates, do you really think they'd ask him a question? Hell to the no! The ONLY shot we'd have at getting our message out is if the mystery "gazillionaire" comes out of the woodwork with that brilliantly produced miniseries and ran it (or commercials for it) in every available broadcast slot. The only way the required number of people would tune in is if they were literally inundated with ads for it, and it ran lots of times so they'd have multiple times to tune in to view it. Now, how likely is that? Anyone want to give odds on that happening? I admit, the odds of Dr. Paul winning the Republican nomination are slim, but much better than the mystery billionaire being real. Furthermore, if we can steal this nomination away from McRomabee, I'd give 60/40 odds of us winning the general. Hillabama's gonna have to pull out all the voter fraud stops to beat us if we get the nomination, and even in that case, there might be enough of an uproar to expose the fraud and bring some real changes to our electoral system. I like the idea of hand counted paper ballots, televised for anyone to observe, at any time.

Anyway, I'd like to conclude by asking for all the help you can give us in Texas. We're working damn hard to get the vote out, and we WILL be taking delegates to National. I'll be going to National, (God willing), and I'd have to have a gun held to my head to vote for anyone other than Dr. Paul. Let's get billboards up, radio ads on every station, and ten times the volunteers than New Hampshire. Let's shock the nation with a win in Texas. It's a big-ass state; probably the most famous state around the world. (I know I might get flamed for that one, but seriously, go anywhere around the world and ask them about Texas. They make the cowboy hat motions and pretend they're riding a horse. Face it, we're well known and winning this state would be really big for Dr. Paul). Let's circle the wagons around Texas and get the message out. We're receptive to the message, and love an underdog. Most of the supporters I've met here found out about him from signs. They looked him up. Just the fact that they've never heard of him intrigues them enough to look him up. If that's not a populace begging for change, I don't know what is. Give everything you can to Texas. It could be to us what Ill. was to Lincoln.
 
Just say, "well, Bubba, we may not get our candidate in the top slot this time, but I betcha this'll get us a veep for at least four years, and that sure beats nuthin'. 'Sides, I bet he'll just throw his delegates to [insert Bubba's favorite candidate here] and put him over the top!"
 
This has been the case in other counties, but Mccain magically brings people to vote for him.

I think the guy is right about the vacuum part. Most of us hang out with people of like minds and so our perception is usually skewed. I really hope Texas gives him a chance though.
 
It has been 28 years since we lived in TX, but would not the only one left running that is for gun rights still go big in Texas?

You might want to whittle the flyer down that compares the candidates just to the three running now. People would be more likely to read a smaller one and it would be cheaper to spread.

Use the prior Regan endorsement to our advantage on top of the flyer like they did in LA.

I hope he gets on TV there big time. Local TV is more likely to get his word out. Hit the ones where we might not be as strong to remind them what he has done for Texas.

Texas will be hard to canvas on foot.

Just some thoughts.

Good Luck
 
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Reality Check

Ron Paul is not going to win in Texas. Best to focus on some small caucus state.
 
Which candidate would Texans want the least, do you suppose?

I ask, because in addition to soliciting supporters who are FOR Ron Paul, you might also angle to get support from people who are AGAINST one candidate, more than being for anyone.

Of course, I'm hoping the answer to my question is John McCain; in other words., that there's an anti-McCain sentiment in Texas. If true, then it would be no lie at all to say that RP delegates would vote against him, right?
 
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