Campaign Press Release: RON PAUL WINNING THE BATTLE FOR DELEGATES

[Maximus]

so any idea why that fox reporter said it wasnt legit mathematically?

The key word in your question is "fox reporter"

 

[Noblegeorge]

did they explain why they felt that way?

Nope. Correspondant just held up the press release at the end of interview laughed and said that. Said Ron only has 9 delegates.

 

[gerryb]

My first thought was not to play your cards too early, but I am thinking this was put out there to fire up more of Ron Paul's base that may have gotten discouraged with the raw numbers.

Exactly.

Many on this forum still do not understand the strategy.

Someone with clout should make a youtube for each state, and explain the rules/delegate process for that state..

 

[tsetsefly]

Guys im sure every campaign is well aware of the RP strategy, hell even CNN was talking about it yesterday. THe thing is we have supporters they have voters. Voters don't want dont know or want to be bothered with the delegate process.

Look at all the soft support Santorum gained alot of those were last minute voters who jumped ship from romney or gingrich you think many of those stayed to become delegates? Off course not. Delegates is where organization and grassroots matters. Romney has the organization and we have both organization and grassroots...

 

[georgiaboy]

This is good.

Getting this message put out in the open early will protect Ron at the conventions if the establishment tries to cry foul.

It allows for a healthy discussion of why delegates are even a part of the process as opposed to just counting the popular votes and selecting the nominee from those totals.

 

[Darthbrooklyn]

I fkn love it.... Ron F'ing Paul sneaking in the back door..

 

[AlexG]

Bad move, should have waited till we won Maine, no point in sounding their alarms for them.

Its not like anyone reads these things but us, lol.

 

[seawolf]

The Campaign had to do this for two main reasons, first Campaign Donations have crashed, I am way down, lucky to hit $25,000 a day on the RP Donation Daily Tracker.

Secondly, the RP Base is very restless and some are starting to panic and even drift away.

Saturday is HUGE, we simply have to win, second place will not stem the panic or increase the donations.

A win will reignite the Campaign and there will be a surge in donations, just in time for the No One But Paul Money Bomb on Tuesday.

 

[CJLauderdale4]

Bad move, should have waited till we won Maine, no point in sounding their alarms for them.

Actually it's ok to tell the world. In most states it is too late to register to be delegate anyway. So even if supporters of other candidates wised up, it's already too late.

 

[wgadget]

I bet that Fox reporter was having an OH, SH$T moment.

 

[Highstreet]

Actually it's ok to tell the world. In most states it is too late to register to be delegate anyway. So even if supporters of other candidates wised up, it's already too late.

^^this!!

 

[SilentBull]

This, this is to rally us. Get motivated people, let's do this!

That was my thought too.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Nope. Correspondant just held up the press release at the end of interview laughed and said that. Said Ron only has 9 delegates.

Paul is doing OK with delegates. He is in 3rd and ahead of Santorum.

 

[orenbus]

...just in time for the No One But Paul Money Bomb on Tuesday.

Although some on this board seem determined not to promote it.

 

[Cabal]

My first thought was not to play your cards too early, but I am thinking this was put out there to fire up more of Ron Paul's base that may have gotten discouraged with the raw numbers.

I agree, and I think they needed to make a move like this after last night--there was a lot of negativity as a result of last night, even here; and of course the talking heads of the media will be spinning last night as a nail in the coffin for RP's campaign. So something definitely needed to be done.

 

[jkr]

SHUDDUP!

 

[bobmurph]

Fox reporter just said this press release is demonstrably and mathematically wrong.

Fox is wrong. They're not looking at this through the prism of Tampa being a brokered convention. Anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but the way I understand it (I'm certainly no expert) is as follows:

If any candidate goes to Tampa with a majority of bound delegates (which are predetermined by the Caucuses and Primaries and awarded proportionally, unproportionally & bound or unbound according to the laws of each state), then the delegation will vote (each individual for the candidate to which their vote is bound), and the nomination will be awarded to the candidate with a majority. If however, no candidate holds a majority after the first vote, then all the delegates are "released" and are free to vote for whomever they choose in the sequence of votes that ensues.

The strategy that the campaign is employing, is not just to "win" bound delegates through the primary & caucus votes, but to have Ron Paul supporters go through the process of becoming a delegate (which most voters are completely ignorant of) and take as many "generic" delegate slots as possible. So in the event of a brokered convention, there are at least 1144 Ron Paul supporters on the convention floor, and once they are "released" from their binding vote after the first vote, we can all vote for Ron Paul and win the nomination in a succeeding vote.

Am I off base with that explanation?

The questions I have are about the process for electing delegates at the State convention. Are we running to be elected for a "bound" vote for our candidate of choice? For example, lets say a state has 100 Delegates, 30 bound for Ron Paul, 25 for Newt, 25 for Romney and 20 for Frothy. Will we be running to be elected as a delegate for a specific candidate or just for one of the 100 total spots?

And at the National Convention, how do they prevent bound delegates who may supporter someone else (i.e. a Ron Paul supporter that is a bound delegate for Mitt Romney) from not voting who they are bound to?

My first thought was not to play your cards too early, but I am thinking this was put out there to fire up more of Ron Paul's base that may have gotten discouraged with the raw numbers.

Agree. They are doing this to keep the grassroots supporters fired up and educate them about the strategy for Ron Paul's path the the GOP Nomination.

 

[camp_steveo]

Yes and no. At first glance you may think, won't the other guys see this and therefore become more likely to become delegates themselves? But if you think about it, this release will only be read by folks who eat and sleep politics. In a way, it's using the fact that complacent voters tend to vote with the herd/trend and have zero interest in the civil service of becoming a delegate. Ron Paul has the highest number of political activist type voters, so on average the majority of those finding out this (not-so) secret are new Paul supporters who could be served well in learning about all this.

I think that's why it's being called a battle. We are winning the battle for delegates! I am very excited to read this.

 

[boethius27]

SHUDDUP!

But.... I...... just...................ok.

 

[Maltheus]

I was pretty negative going into last night, and I normally take these kind of announcements as just blowing smoke up in there. But after hearing how well my Colorado compatriots have been doing across the state, I'm actually reinvigorated this morning. Nice to hear the campaign second what I've been hearing.

The problem is all of the non-caucus states that don't benefit from our stealth campaign. I think now, that it would have been better for all Paulers to lay their cards on the table, and debate his policies openly across the country. Stealth buy us nothing, unless we win. Openness let's us educate.