CA Marijuana Legalization - 52% Support - 36% Oppose!!

the marijuana movement will be a big piece of the liberty movement. It will be upto the gop to change with the times or risk becoming a 3rd party. In Colorado, many in the gop have not figured this out yet. opposing a majority of voters is not a good way to stay in office! sadly many republicans in 2010 will find out the hard way:(, except for the liberty-minded Republicans! this may not be the case in every state but i am telling you the future for Liberty is ending the these insane laws on cannabis sativa!!! HEMP FOR VICTORY and Legalize Marijuana!!! Liberty Candidates 2010 Ron Paul 2012
 
dannno said:
There is little discrepancy between generations. 65+ is the only age group that opposes the legalization of marijuana; 39:47.
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This is why legalization is inevitable. These people aren't going to live forever.
 
dannno said:
That is bologna. Cannabis consumers want QUALITY. The only people who buy mex weed do so because the good stuff is not available or extremely scarce and overly priced.

When it becomes legal, high quality cannabis will be produced in CA, not in mexico. The DEA doesn't go down to mexico to raid cannabis plantations, but they do that here. That is why there is more availability coming from Mexico. As soon as the DEA steps down, people here will grow higher quality cannabis than what can be grown in mexico and it will take significant funding from the cartels.
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Agreed.

Although I'd probably change "can be grown in" to "is currently imported from".
 
It may be that the cartels make most if their money from other drugs. If so, Prop 19 wouldn't have much of an effect. If the cartels do make a lot of their money from marijuana, Prop 19 would hurt them a lot.

Zippyjuan said:
Marijuana is just a small percent of drug sales in terms of dollars in the US. Even if you totally eleminated importing that, you would barely dent the illegal drug trade and the profits and business of the cartels. They will not go away if California and or Arizona legalizes marijuana. (granted these numbers are estimates and about ten years old).
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/special/math.html
Chart does not copy well but in 1998, consumers spent an estimated $10.7 billion on marijuana and a combined $53.3 on other illegal drugs including cocaine, heroin, and meth. Cut them back on one and they will up production on the others. And what is to prevent them from getting involved on the legal side in the US as well? No- it is naive to think that legalizing marijuana will make problems go away.
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The weed issue is probably Obama's biggest joke of all. I'm working on quite an essay about it. But it will be key to a 2012 run if Ron will hurry up and decide to do it. I spoke to a kid from NORML the other day and the only two politicians he mentioned to support nationally were "Ron Paul and Gary Johnson." Little hippie kids. Two Republicans are their heroes now. Imagine!
 
dannno said:
I use blackstrap molasses on my tomatoes and other vegetables as well, in the water that i feed them. It provides carbohydrates as well as potassium, very essential for plant growth!!
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High in micronutrients as is rockweed / seaweed / kelp. Carbs are good for bacteria and maybe fungi.
 
P.S. My dad was excited about the tomato gardening until I explained. Not that we don't grow one helluva tomato around here, not even in quotes.
 
I wonder how Ron Paul would vote on this. Not as a congressman....but as a citizen of California (if he lived there)

The bill definitely proposes a better solution than the way things are currently handled....but taxing and regulating a plant?
 
The other 49 states are going to experience such a swift and profound brain-drain after decrim passes in CA that they aren't even prepared for it. All the artists, musicians, IT guys...ZIP! Gone!
 
BuddyRey said:
The other 49 states are going to experience such a swift and profound brain-drain after decrim passes in CA that they aren't even prepared for it. All the artists, musicians, IT guys...ZIP! Gone!
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I doubt it. It's easier to just keep buying on the black market. Those black market prices should be lower than ever before because marijuana will be cheaper in CA, and many people will get it sent or brought to them from friends in CA, which will reduce demand from local drug dealers and force them to be more competitive. Not to mention that in my experience CA marijuana is superior quality from that in other geographic areas to begin with.

Also, CA is not too popular a place to live right now. I know people from CA and they want OUT due to the ridiculous laws and taxes.
 
The only thing I don't like about this is the taxation of it. I doubt it would have gotten this far if alifornia wasn't broke.

If the union pensions weren't at risk of being cut in CA this would not pass. It will just buy the unions and California a little more time.
 
People may not move en masse, but tourism will surely pick up in CA from this.
 
MozoVote said:
People may not move en masse, but tourism will surely pick up in CA from this.
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Tourism will increase and then people will bring it back to their states. Watch increased police presence or some set-up to search people's cars for marijuana going out of state lines
 
Unfortunately this won't even matter since the federal government will simply overrule the California law. The statists in both the Republican Party and the Democrat party will take care of that.
 
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