brokered convention or third party?

[A. Havnes]

Brokered convention. Actually, the ideal would be a contested convention (I hope I used the correct terminology), but I'm definitely against a third party run. Third party candidates have almost zero impact on anything because the system is so biased against them. No one ever hears about third party candidates unless you actively look for news relating to them, they don't get to participate in debates, and they get no media coverage, and by that, I mean even less that Republican Dr. Paul.

 

[NewFederalist]

My understanding is that most sore-loser laws do not apply to presidential candidates.

That is correct. The courts have shot down "sore loser" laws time and time again. When voting in a primary one votes for the PERSON for obtaining delegates. When one votes in the general election it is for a SLATE OF ELECTORS pledged to a particular person. Not the same thing. The courts have made this clear.

 

[trey4sports]

DeMint is a member of the Republican Liberty Caucus. He is essentially a neo-libertarian, i.e. fiscally conservative, state's rights, pro-life, more hawkish in FP than Paul but less so than the neo-cons. DeMint, Flake, et all would fall under that classification in my mind. Guys like that vote the same way as Paul & Paul about 90% of the time.

Remember too, it all depends of what your definition of the Paul base is. If you are referring to the people that populate the online community then no, but if you are talking about the folks that like Paul alot, but are not diehard activists, then yes. I know both types so I am speaking on this from personal experience.

Flake is pretty bad. He makes a couple token liberty votes but his overall record is pretty much as bad as the others.

 

[tbone717]

He may be better than most, but I don't think he would be good enough even for the soft Paul supporters.

Some of the folks I have been speaking with would support the ticket if he were on it. Keep in mind, that the passion for a primary candidate does wane as you get closer to the general. We have 8 months before the general, when faced with their decision at that time, a lot of people who were gung ho for Santorum, Paul or Newt in the primary will be a lot less so come that time. Again, not talking about the folks who spend have their lives immersed in this stuff, but instead more so the average voter.

 

[tbone717]

Flake is pretty bad. He makes a couple token liberty votes but his overall record is pretty much as bad as the others.

Actually he scores very high on both the RLC and on the John Birch (paleo-con) scorecards. Over the last few sessions, Flake has voted the same way as Paul about 90% of the time. He could very well be the next Senator from AZ, and a huge improvement over Kyl who voted the same way as Rand only about 50% of the time.

 

[WilliamC]

brokered convention, then third party

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edit: well only the second if we don't win the first, obviously.

 

[jhk07]

Third party would be absurd, unless he's not in it to win it. He can't grab votes the way it is! He needs the Republican Party as much as they need him (us) . If he wants to win, brokered is the only way.

 

[flynn]

Country comes before Rand as far as I'm concerned. The economic mess is at a point of no return, so Rand doesn't matter. The PEOPLE need to be taught a lesson in liberty.

A dose of reality right here.

 

[Maltheus]

Both. Go to the convention for Paul, and then support Johnson if he doesn't get the nom.

 

[AhuwaleKaNaneHuna]

And that kills Rand's chances for every winning anything.

I don't think I beleive that. If people have a choice to make between Rand who they like in action and some dufus, I think they will vote Rand.

If the Republican party were strong enough to beat Obama then it would.

If it needs Paul to do it, and they treated Paul like caca, ( and every breathing voter knows they have) then, why blame Senator Rand?


Rand had nothing to do with FOX's smears against Paul and the Republican voters not bringing Paul the nom. That would be the voters fault for chasing Paul out of the party, not Rands.

I DARE the GOP to blame Paul for it loosing to Obama. Do any of you think the GOP will give Paul the verbal acknowledgement of having THAT MUCH POWER in the party ever????

 

[wgadget]

I think if they don't give Ron the nomination at the national convention, there should be a PUBLIC MASS EXODUS of Paul delegates from the Republican Party. And it should be televised.

 

[Ivash]

The GOP Ticket is going to be Romney/Santorum, they'll battle it out until toward the bitter end and then Romney's only logical choice will be Santorum because he endorsed him in the last election, he's from a swing-state (Pennsylvania) and he'll shore up the evangelical side of the base like Palin did for McCain. Get ready for Obama/Biden 2012-16 because Romney/Santorum won't be able to beat the Obama Super PAC machine.

Romney would be an idiot to pick Santorum. Santorum doesn't actually bring any guarantees (though he does make Penn easier to win), is another old(er) white male Republican, and most importantly would be Palin 2.0 when it comes to who the media is going to mock.

Rubio is the logical pick.

 

[Freeberty]

Romney would be an idiot to pick Santorum. Santorum doesn't actually bring any guarantees (though he does make Penn easier to win), is another old(er) white male Republican, and most importantly would be Palin 2.0 when it comes to who the media is going to mock.

Rubio is the logical pick.

Pretty sure Santorum isn't very well liked in Penn. and wouldn't be much help there.

 

[jointhefightforfreedom]

Win or Start a Real Revolution at the convention!

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?365771-THE-WINNING-STRATEGY!

 

[Feelgood]

Im thinking I am sick and tired of third party threads. The hundreds of them get old over the years.