British National Archives show a son was born to Obama Sr. in 1961 in Kenya

Birthers will still be at it after he leaves office. Liberals will never care.

Mother was a citizen beyond any doubt, it doesn't matter where he was born. I won't reply to this post.
Yes, his mother was a US citizen; but isn't the question that if he, himself, wasn't born in the US about whether or not he qualifies to be President?

Personally, I wonder if he was deliberately selected to be the candidate to purposely keep people distracted or occupied with debating his birth so they'll spend less time trying to stop things like Obamacare and many of the other things he's doing to damage or destroy the country.
 
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Personally, I wonder if he was deliberately selected to be the candidate to purposely keep people distracted or occupied with debating his birth so they'll spend less time trying to stop things like Obamacare and many of the other things he's doing to damage or destroy the country.

Meh, I think he was selected because some rich and powerful guys wanted to see what would happen if neither the R nor the D candidate for president were actually eligible for the position. Probably bet a dollar on the results.
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Meh, I think he was selected because some rich and powerful guys wanted to see what would happen if neither the R nor the D candidate for president were actually eligible for the position. Probably bet a dollar on the results.
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I like Trading Places, good & funny movie.

The arguments over Obama's birth certificate or Hawaii newspaper birth announcements remind me of two other movies I like:

Wag The Dog, where Conrad Brean has that counterfeit music record planted in the Library of Congress.

A Few Good Men, where Col. Jessup makes an entire flight disappear from both the Andrews and Gitmo tower chiefs' logbooks.
 
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Contact the NSA... I'm sure they have a file or two, on the Presidential Puppet and Propagandist

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To make people who called birthers 'crazy' for questioning where Obama was born look very foolish.

Remember, their argument was never, "who cares where Obama was born?", their argument was "Obama was born in Hawaii, you idiot."

People like that need their beliefs shaken up on occasion.

Unfortunately the beliefs of the crazy people are unshakable.
 
Yes, his mother was a US citizen; but isn't the question that if he, himself, wasn't born in the US about whether or not he qualifies to be President?

Personally, I wonder if he was deliberately selected to be the candidate to purposely keep people distracted or occupied with debating his birth so they'll spend less time trying to stop things like Obamacare and many of the other things he's doing to damage or destroy the country.
If that were so, John McCain wouldn't have been eligible either had he won.
 
Why would an American woman go to Kenya, a third world country, to give birth to her baby? Doesn’t make sense.
 
Meh, I think he was selected because some rich and powerful guys wanted to see what would happen if neither the R nor the D candidate for president were actually eligible for the position. Probably bet a dollar on the results.
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I think that's closer to the truth.

In all seriousness, what difference does it make? They don't follow the constitution on anything else, what makes anyone think they'd adhere to the letter on the "natural born" portion?

We're f'd regardless.
 
If that were so, John McCain wouldn't have been eligible either had he won.
Right, and that also makes me wonder something similar about McCain being deliberately selected to be the candidate as a distraction, etc.

We had two candidates for the dominant political parties who have issues regarding being born outside the US & their qualification to be President.
 
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Right, and that also makes me wonder something similar about McCain being deliberately selected to be the candidate as a distraction, etc.

We had two candidates for the dominant political parties who have issues regarding being born outside the US & their qualification to be President.

The Founding Fathers warned us to preserve a government of laws, and not of men.


Arrogant, lawless and lusting for power, government officials have
abrogated their responsibility to the Constitution, the country and its
citizens.

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It was a backroom deal among Congressional Democrats and Republicans, which created our current Constitutional crisis.


Congress and our political leadership always knew that Barack Obama
was not a natural born citizen and, therefore, he was never eligible for
the Presidency.


Over the last twenty to thirty years, members of Congress, for both
personal and partisan reasons, have unsuccessfully attempted to water
down the natural born citizen clause by offering potential Amendments to
the Constitution.


[h=3]Political coup d’etat of the Constitution[/h]

In the Spring of 2008, however, politicians found an opportunity to
create a precedent, whereby they could change the eligibility
requirements for the Presidency without an Amendment.


At that time, John McCain’s eligibility according to the natural born
clause was being questioned. So, a deal was struck and the bogus and
non-binding Senate resolution 511 was passed, which provided cover for
both McCain and Obama.


It was a political coup d’etat of the Constitution. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/37929
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Personally, I wonder if he was deliberately selected to be the candidate to purposely keep people distracted or occupied with debating his birth so they'll spend less time trying to stop things like Obamacare and many of the other things he's doing to damage or destroy the country.

Glenn Greenwald 15 may 2013:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/15/obama-civil-liberties-sea-change

Recall back in 2008 that the CIA prepared a secret report (PDF)(subsequently leaked to WikiLeaks) that presciently noted that the election of Barack Obama would be the most effective way to stem the tide of antiwar sentiment in western Europe, because it would put a pleasant, happy, progressive face on those wars and thus convert large numbers of Obama supporters from war opponents into war supporters.

That, of course, is exactly what happened: not just in the realm of militarism but civil liberties and a whole variety of other issues. That has had the effect of transforming what were, just a few years ago, symbols of highly contentious right-wing radicalism into harmonious bipartisan consensus.

That the most vocal defenders of this unprecedented government acquisition of journalists' phone records comes from government-loyal progressives - reciting the standard slogans of National Security and Keeping Us Safe and The Terrorists - is a potent symbol indeed of this transformation.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/15/obama-civil-liberties-sea-change
The war on WikiLeaks and why it matters Greenwald Mar 27, 2010
http://www.salon.com/2010/03/27/wikileaks/

In any event, Neither Bush, Romney or McCain could have done even a quarter of the things this grinning jug eared liar has done and not suffered riots in the streets. This Barry guy is dangerous.

I think Barry, His Mommy and his real and fake daddys have CIA blood
 
Once you move past libertarianism into advocating for a stateless society you stop worshiping the idea of the government restraining itself as a plausible idea.
What about the idea of the people restraining the government?

Something like a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.

That idea was lost somewhere. Both by complacency and laziness in the people, and by allowing(or electing) Authoritarians who wished to rule the people.
 
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