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Bring Your Guns To Washington Day...?
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Well, no patriotic AMERICAN is going to condone the flippant, arrogant disregard for the US Constitution anymore either! Unfortunately for the goons in the media and DC, we, the people, have had it with their lies and treasonous behavior. Actually, I think most patriotic AMERICANS don't really give a damn what anyone connected with the establishment in DC says anyway, especially US Congressmen of either political party.
Personally, I'm neutral about the violent backlash against the traitors in DC. I won't rejoice over the violence poured into the lap of these traitors, but I certainly won't shed any tears over it either. The goons in the media and US Congress never discuss the violent attack on the US Constitution, only the "violent" response to the attack on the US Constitution. Violence begets violence and any blood shed lies at the feet of those traitors in DC.
Personally, I'm neutral about the violent backlash against the traitors in DC. I won't rejoice over the violence poured into the lap of these traitors, but I certainly won't shed any tears over it either. The goons in the media and US Congress never discuss the violent attack on the US Constitution, only the "violent" response to the attack on the US Constitution. Violence begets violence and any blood shed lies at the feet of those traitors in DC.
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RideTheDirt
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This will not turn out well 
Was I supposed to be offended by the video? Maybe I missed something.
Maddow talks about how threats and violence are unacceptable because it's "real life, not politics" while IGNORING that the decisions these threatened Congresscritters make effect the real life of people in this country. Does she think this bill won't be enforced at the point of a gun by the IRS? These aren't games here and they surely aren't "academic exercises". Decisions have consequences and I'm glad to see some people start to show their displeasure. That doesn't mean I'll participate or encourage but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it if someone else does.
Fwiw, I grew up right next to Fort Hunt Park. It is a federal park and there are US Park Police very active at that park. I sure hope nothing bad happens. However, firearms are now allowed on federal park land so they would not be breaking any laws that I'm aware of.
Maddow talks about how threats and violence are unacceptable because it's "real life, not politics" while IGNORING that the decisions these threatened Congresscritters make effect the real life of people in this country. Does she think this bill won't be enforced at the point of a gun by the IRS? These aren't games here and they surely aren't "academic exercises". Decisions have consequences and I'm glad to see some people start to show their displeasure. That doesn't mean I'll participate or encourage but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it if someone else does.
Fwiw, I grew up right next to Fort Hunt Park. It is a federal park and there are US Park Police very active at that park. I sure hope nothing bad happens. However, firearms are now allowed on federal park land so they would not be breaking any laws that I'm aware of.
Was it supposed to be a portmanteau of intimidation and nation? Like intimidation nation rolled into one word?
If they don't want to be possibly tazed, they need to stay at home. There is nothing that makes a politician sweat more than a bunch of angry armed citizens.
I am a huge supporter of gun rights, and am an endowment member in the NRA, but I am having a hard time grasping this march. Why bring an unloaded gun anywhere? It serves absolutely no point except as to be interpretted by the anti gun crowd as an excuse to have more gun laws enacted. They can look up and see that there are something around 6 million CCL holders in the US, so obviously gun ownership is now being either considered, or has become a way of life, for many. I think the timing of this is bad, as it clearly draws a line in the sand, so to speak, and makes the situation appear to be taking on a possible violent undertone.
Now before people jump on me, just think back to the guy in Arizona that showed up to hear Obama with his AR-15. While the point was perhaps made, it seemed a bit foolish to me then for this man to show up with this kind of hardware. It is not something the average citizen is used to seeing in public here in the US. While this gentleman did not disrupt anything, his merely being there with a semi-auto carbine had to have made many feel uneasy. Anyway, I think the idea could be served just as well by marching with signs and leaving the unloaded firearms at home.
I am a huge supporter of gun rights, and am an endowment member in the NRA, but I am having a hard time grasping this march. Why bring an unloaded gun anywhere? It serves absolutely no point except as to be interpretted by the anti gun crowd as an excuse to have more gun laws enacted. They can look up and see that there are something around 6 million CCL holders in the US, so obviously gun ownership is now being either considered, or has become a way of life, for many. I think the timing of this is bad, as it clearly draws a line in the sand, so to speak, and makes the situation appear to be taking on a possible violent undertone.
Now before people jump on me, just think back to the guy in Arizona that showed up to hear Obama with his AR-15. While the point was perhaps made, it seemed a bit foolish to me then for this man to show up with this kind of hardware. It is not something the average citizen is used to seeing in public here in the US. While this gentleman did not disrupt anything, his merely being there with a semi-auto carbine had to have made many feel uneasy. Anyway, I think the idea could be served just as well by marching with signs and leaving the unloaded firearms at home.
Before you mentioned the hollow display of weapons, I thought the process of marching with unloaded weapons was silly. Personally, if I'm carrying a weapon, I'd be willing to use it so my weapon would be loaded. Based on your comment, however, I'm beginning to think that Americans NEED to become very familiar with guns carried openly and everywhere. Maybe, this silly march might help in the latter regard to reconditioning Americans to the presence of guns.
I should add that I am in favor of open carry laws, and wish my state had such policies in place. However, I am not in favor of having people walking around Walmart with an AK47 strapped to their shoulder. A handgun has its place, but putting that aside, what is the point of going to a rally with a long gun? Keep that in your vehicle, as the US is not in a state of war.
The type of weapon isn't the point. People need to be reconditioned to the presence of weapons everywhere. Actually, the stranger the situation, e.g. an AK47 at Wal-Mart, the better. Similar to brainwashed people, the truth sounds strange when first heard. Get the people reconditioned to the presence of guns everywhere and eventually their acceptance will be taken for granted.
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crushingstep7
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I don't think this is the time for any "scary marches"...
things aren't that bad, are they?
things aren't that bad, are they?
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Sweden's not at war and they do it all the time. As a matter of fact that is probably why their not at war. I tried to find the video but they walk into stores all the time with a machine gun strapped over their shoulder and nobody seems to blink an eye. Just because you have been indoctrinated to believe it's bad doesn't mean it's bad. Besides how is it any different then wearing a pocket knife in a walmart? It's equally dangerous.
Come on now, comparing a pocket knife in terms of threat level to that of an 'assault' rifle. I have never been to Sweden, but that would be very foriegn to me. I think the US should not expect to become like this unless baby steps are first taken, which seems to be happening across the country right now. There is no need to expect or ask for open carry of long guns at the moment, IMO. I am not saying I am not for it, except that it is asking too much too quickly.
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I can see your point, but can also see the opposing point
the meme "guns are bad and people with them are always a threat" seems to be all too prevelant in urban and suburban america these days
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Then let em be scared of it.... they might not like it, but it is my right and as long as i am not being aggressive and it is unloaded ... there is no reason to get all upset... the MSM has been playing these saps for the fools they are... and they will keep doing it...
I carry here all the time and no one here even bats an eye over it... so it is mostly their own preconcieved notions that we who carry are all dangerous... no we are not. But to convince them of that is herculean.
Some will actually eventually accept, but there are the hard cases that have a severe case of hoplophobia (as it was coined) .
So i suppose many will scream out about those evil guns and some of the usual crap that they spew out... but if the guns are dangerous and they kill or they are evil...
I think then there is a serious problem with all of my guns.... they are not possessed, they have harmed no one or killed anyone..... so I wonder if they are broken or mechanically defective...
I carry here all the time and no one here even bats an eye over it... so it is mostly their own preconcieved notions that we who carry are all dangerous... no we are not. But to convince them of that is herculean.
Some will actually eventually accept, but there are the hard cases that have a severe case of hoplophobia (as it was coined) .
So i suppose many will scream out about those evil guns and some of the usual crap that they spew out... but if the guns are dangerous and they kill or they are evil...
I think then there is a serious problem with all of my guns.... they are not possessed, they have harmed no one or killed anyone..... so I wonder if they are broken or mechanically defective...
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We should form our own sign waves or rallies to support this event at local levels all across the country. It would be wise not to tent under one big umbrella but absolutely support a second amendment effort holding our own events in support of the march.
I also think we should also make our non-violent intentions and position on agent provocateurs well known to the general public.
I also think we should also make our non-violent intentions and position on agent provocateurs well known to the general public.
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We should encourage tea party members to have their own separate events as well. This is the type of event where you want to have a lot of decentralization.
Thread title is bullshit though:
From the FAQ on the Second Amendment March website:
Thread title is bullshit though:
From the FAQ on the Second Amendment March website:
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