Bring Back Ross Perot 30-minute Infomercial

[nightlight]

Agreed, lot's of people have blind faith in Ron Paul's leadership skills. See I do this real moron thing called thinking, where I question things. One of those things just so happens to be Ron's leadership abilities.

He is much smarter than what the present numeric results show, considering the level of suport and energy offered to him by the grassroots back in December 2007. Hence, the more pertinent question is whether he desires to win the office personally or he merely seeks that his vision of liberty to win.

On many occasions he hinted that his real objective is the latter. And that he is achieving beyond his wildest dreams, as we marvel at how much of his ideas and words were "stolen" by his competitors and pundits. We are often amazed here how much some commentator or celebrity agrees with Ron, yet they don't endorse him. I think, as far as he is concerned he has won.

It may be that his path is much wiser than what we can comprehend with our materialistic, shallow, instant gatification mindset. As a single person reaching the White House, his vision is one bullet away from a defeat and a long, dark age which would follow. As a vision and an aching, unfulfilled yearning seeded across millions of hearts and minds, seeking a path to the material realm, it is virtually indestructible and unstoppable force which will ennoble the spirit of the nation and light our way for a long time.

 

[jkm1864]

Bloomberg Oh my God I seen a picture of Him hob nobbing with Rockefeller. He is not the type of person You want as a VP. My God man educate You're self. Jesus Are You so ignorant these are the people that are destroying America.

 

[coboman]

Hence, the more pertinent question is whether he desires to win the office personally or he merely seeks that his vision of liberty win.

On many occasions he hinted that his real objective is the latter.

Then I want my money back.

We have donated like nobody else in history, and worked hard. That was because we wanted a good president. To win the white house.

The slogan in his website read "12 million to win Iowa and New Hampshire". It was not "12 million to promote a vision of liberty". That is false advertising, right there.

If this was a campaign to promote a vision of liberty, we could have spent those 30+ million dollars much more effectively on books and documentaries, instead of promoting an old man and his voting record.

 

[JMann]

The campaign is pretty much over but for those of you that keep bring up those god awful Perot infomercials keep forgetting the billionaire ran those boring as hell spots on multiple networks at the same time during prime time at a cost (back then) of around 5 million dollars. Not to mention he got a ton of free press and praise about what a (ahum) brilliant person he is.

This would be the single most stupid thing Paul could spend his money on.

 

[MrZach]

Lincoln 1860, that's where the GOP came from, it's only right that the next 3rd party win takes us back in the other direction, away from big government and back to states rights.

That's not completely true the way you put it... Lincoln was a Republican, but the Republican party had been around since 1854 out of the ashes of the Whig party. Lincoln was the Whig party leader in Illinois and left the party around 1852 for the newly formed Republican party. He *was* the first Republican President, but the Republican party was pretty prominent already because almost all the Whigs in the north had joined it and it attracted a lot of support from anti-slavery expansionists.

John Fremont was the first Republican to run for president and he garnered about 35% of the vote. The rest of the vote was split 45% for Buchanan, and 20% for Fillmore, who as you may recall was the last Whig President ever to serve. He was Zachary Taylor's VP and took office when Taylor passed several months after taking office.

But you didn't want a history lesson, did you? lol...

I'm afraid that after this next election, if Ron Paul isn't nominated, someone in the GOP is going to have to declare, "We are slayed. The party is dead--dead--dead!" in the spirit of Lewis Davis Campbell...

 

[Michael Ingram]

Has anyone ever won the presidency as an independent? Seems like an extremely long shot to me.

Theodore Roosevelt won, Ross Perot led Clinton and Bush in the polls in 1992.

 

[nightlight]

Then I want my money back. We have donated like nobody else in history, and worked hard. That was because we wanted a good president. To win the white house.

To paraphrase Bill Clinton, it depends on what you mean by "win". If McCain wins, Luskin may be his advisor and one more piece of Dr. Paul's vision has won.

The political establishment and media were so spooked by Dr. Paul's enormously enthusiastic support, they are "stealing" and are parroting his words. They don't mean it, of course, not yet. But words and ideas one hears and parrots do affect the thoughts and actions over time. They stole and are running with "liberty" and "constitution" memes. These "memes" have won the nation at the spiritual plane. It is then only matter of time before they descend and conquer it at the physical plane.

 

[MrZach]

Theodore Roosevelt won, Ross Perot led Clinton and Bush in the polls in 1992.

Roosevelt was elected as a Republican in 1904 (he served as President since 1901 after McKinley was assassinated), but refused to run for re-election as a Republican in 1908. He ran unsuccessfully as a "Progressive" in 1912 (lost to Wilson (D) 41% by splitting the Republican vote with incumbent Taft (R))... He did not win as an "independent" as you claim.

I already copied a massive article about Perot's presidential bid and how he was leading by a 4% margin in the polls before he dropped out...

 

[nightlight]

If this was a campaign to promote a vision of liberty, we could have spent those 30+ million dollars much more effectively on books and documentaries, instead of promoting an old man and his voting record.

That remark seems a bit on the mean side and kind of ungrateful.

You have heard Dr. Paul say many times that this is not about him but about liberty and our future. He was never trying to deceive anyone. If the Higher Power arranges the sequence of unlikely events so that he ends up in the White House as our next president, he will have courage to do it, knowing well that he would likely not make it alive for long enough to abolish Fed or dismantle the gigantic corporate-bureaucratic parasite bleeding us to death. The beast is not going to release its fangs and die quite that easily.

What I take from his words is that his physical occupation of the White House is not the force that will change the country. It might help, of course, make it move a bit faster, but it is not essential or even significant. It is what we and many more that will come to our side are thinking, speaking and doing that will.

 

[Join The Paul Side]

Speaking of that....where our 3 one hour documentaries from the billionaire?

There is no billionaire and I want to kick that Good Spirits guy in the nuts for starting that crap rumor.

 

[Jdayh]

Found this old post, and thought damn... this time around RP needs to do this...!!!

 

[IDefendThePlatform]

How much would 30 minutes cost today? It's probably in the thread somewhere but I'm too lazy to look.

30 minute infomercials would be perfect for Dr. Paul to completely explain his platform. I'll moneybomb for this.

 

[Dave Aiello]

Bump.. better yet, I'll start another thread in RP grassroots central.