Bring Back Ross Perot 30-minute Infomercial

[nightlight]

Agreed. This is what this campaign is seriously lacking.

The reason it is lacking it is that people around him are not high caliber campaign masters, like Ed Rollins running Huck's campaign.

Ron Paul made it this far despite the third raters and saboteurs around him. Unless he dismantles that and brings in the fresh bood, a crew of much smarter and more loyal folks, the creme of the crop among the grassroots, our poll numbers will continue in the same miserable single digits.

If there is no dramatic shakeup in the HQ staff and the campaign course, one could only conclude that he doesn't wish to win the presidency in the physical plane, but rather he only wants the message to win in the realm of ideas. In fact it already has done that, recalling how much others have started to parrot his message which they smirked and rolled eyes at only months earlier.

Considering how much money and ruthless power is being threatened by his ideas, one cannot blame Dr. Paul if he actually isn't trying to win in the physical plane since the odds of making it alive into the White House against these enemies are far smaller than even his polling figures.

From Dr. Paul's conference call last night on R-P-Radio, it would appear that the campaign, the staff and all, will continue exactly as before, which means that at the physical plane the results will continue exactly as before. Unless, of course, the 'Great Programmer of the Universe' decides to have some fun and arranges some major miracles to come our way.

 

[RageAgainstDC]

No. We contacted the official campaign.
There was a HUGE voice for the infomercials. There were even companies that were willing to do it without profit (Hollywood closeups).
There were serious plans presented, and multiple approaches to the official campaign, and they were all met with disdain.

I am very happy that Ron Paul won't be our next president, because if he was planning to run the country as he ran his campaign, it would have been a disaster.

As his campaign was (yes, past tense).

He had loads of money, and all the resources were wasted in things that didn't get one vote. The one thing that could have changed people's minds, the infomercials, were never even considered.

Well thanks for explaining that to everyone. Now go fuck yourself.

 

[RonRules]

Bring back Perot's MS Powerpoint charts!

What would be fascinating is to get the old Perot charts and re-do them with today's numbers. You'll see how Ross Perot was right and how a Ron Paul president is URGENT.

 

[scooter]

And the Republican Party needs/wants a leader to tell them what to do. Sometimes, you have to show people you sympathize with them while instructing them on what is *really* in their best interest.

Telling pro-lifers that they will accomplish more if they re-direct their energies into people rather than politics shouldn't be that controversial. It is already a very common theme among pastors, and conservative authors and talk-show hosts across America.

For a politician to say, "I agree with you, but I'm powerless to do anything about it yet - you need to help me win the ideological battle in people's hearts and minds." wouldn't kill them.

I think you vastly underestimate the feelings of pro-lifers. They see it as one of those key steps in the whole "life, liberty, pursuit of happyness" deal. For many conservatives out there, it's their top issue.

I'm not really concerned with the pro-choice vote. Most of them just go Democrat anyway. I'm just surprised Ron Paul didn't get as much great support from those pro-lifers, seeing how he is an OB/GYN doctor who dlivered 4,000 babies. I mean, it's not even a political or religious position for him, he believes in it scientifically.

 

[Shaun]

Another complete and total waste of money.
Standard.
So far, all told I estimate that HQ and Grass roots have spent around 40million in cash and millions of man hours to win around 16 delegates. Not bad huh?
Now that's what I call a return on investment...
Ridiculous, and launching these thirty minute ads to educate is more money wasted.
He is not going to get the nomination.
It's done. McCain is the nominee.
Months ago I should have demanded they produce quality ads and hired a PR firm and FOR GOD'S SAKE A SPEECH WRITER AND AN EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATIONS COACH FOR RP.
It's been an awful use of 40 MILLION DOLLARS.
Now we have McCI'LLBOMBIRAN as our man.
God help us.

 

[BirdsAreWild]

Do you have ANY idea how much that would cost

coboman, do you have any idea at all how much that would cost to air? Before spouting off please do a bit more research. We did not raise enough money to air infomercials like that on a national scale.

No. We contacted the official campaign.
There was a HUGE voice for the infomercials. There were even companies that were willing to do it without profit (Hollywood closeups).
There were serious plans presented, and multiple approaches to the official campaign, and they were all met with disdain.

I am very happy that Ron Paul won't be our next president, because if he was planning to run the country as he ran his campaign, it would have been a disaster.

As his campaign was (yes, past tense).

He had loads of money, and all the resources were wasted in things that didn't get one vote. The one thing that could have changed people's minds, the infomercials, were never even considered.

 

[nightlight]

He is not going to get the nomination. It's done. McCain is the nominee.

Very strong finish would prepare grounds for the third party run. Fizzling out with 5-6 percent to the end, which is what will continue if the campaign continues doing what it was doing, closes that path for all practical purposes.

 

[Truth Warrior]

I've been a supporter and repeated suggester of the televised infomercials idea here since before the blimp. It's an end run around the MSM blackout blowback tactic. I seem to recall that Perot did it, in part, for the same reason.

It's still a good idea, unless it is now too late.<IMHO>

 

[coboman]

coboman, do you have any idea at all how much that would cost to air? Before spouting off please do a bit more research. We did not raise enough money to air infomercials like that on a national scale.

There was a financial plan in place.

Llepard was going to finance the production himself.

There was access to public television, where they could be aired.
And part of the infomercial idea, was to ask for donations on the spot, to make the ad pay for itself.

This was discussed, and proposed seriously. We could have a media blitz started with less than 5 million, and let the infomercial pay for itself.

After everything we did, the campaign still ignored us. So, why am I posting here?

I haven't posted in a while, and Ron Paul for me is over. But when I see an idea that I held dearly (the infomercials) being proposed at this time of the game, I had to say something: it is not the ideas, it is the lack of leadership to put them to practice.

And, besides, the idea was not to make it in national scale. It was to win New Hampshire and Iowa, to gain momentum and show people that he could win.
Those states were really important. It was the moment to show the people that Ron Paul had a chance. Now, it is too late.

 

[Sauron]

You begged on a forum that the official campaign doesn't read. In fact, they avoid this forum like the plague.

None of the campaign staffers want to jeopardize their easy money jobs to do any actual work. That's just not the libertarian way.

 

[MrZach]

coboman, do you have any idea at all how much that would cost to air? Before spouting off please do a bit more research. We did not raise enough money to air infomercials like that on a national scale.

I'm pretty sure it would cost about as much money as the campaign has raised total so far...

 

[cayton]

I cant believe Paul hasnt made a series of internet speeches. They could be 15-30 minutes in length, it wouldnt cost much to do it, and they could be advertised for a week or two beforehand.

 

[Airborn]

I'm pretty sure it would cost about as much money as the campaign has raised total so far...

then it wouldn't be a great idea

 

[Airborn]

I cant believe Paul hasnt made a series of internet speeches. They could be 15-30 minutes in length, it wouldnt cost much to do it, and they could be advertised for a week or two beforehand.

he has........

 

[MrZach]

I cant believe Paul hasnt made a series of internet speeches. They could be 15-30 minutes in length, it wouldnt cost much to do it, and they could be advertised for a week or two beforehand.

Agreed. Perhaps he could produce something like this - put the video out there for the public to use and let us decide what to do with it... The DVD's we're distributing aren't really that good although they ARE a great idea...

pull in the experts endorsing the man
pull out the dramatic photos and footage
pull out the REAL NUMBERS and charts
put together a show!!

Don't market it as "Ron Paul Campaign" material either - market it as "Rescuing The American Dream" - that will *sell* man.

 

[coboman]

I'm pretty sure it would cost about as much money as the campaign has raised total so far...

This was feasible when we had to win only 2 states. TWO STATES. And not big, expensive states like California, NY or Florida. This was Iowa and New Hampshire.

We were asked for 12 million to win these two states. We gave more than 20 million.

10 million per state.

That was then. And they lost that opportunity.


Now they have like 5 million. For 20 states.

That is $250,000 per state.

There was a time to do things right. That time has come and gone.

 

[PC_for_Paul]

Has anyone ever won the presidency as an independent? Seems like an extremely long shot to me.

Lincoln 1860, that's where the GOP came from, it's only right that the next 3rd party win takes us back in the other direction, away from big government and back to states rights.

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

No. We contacted the official campaign.
There was a HUGE voice for the infomercials. There were even companies that were willing to do it without profit (Hollywood closeups).
There were serious plans presented, and multiple approaches to the official campaign, and they were all met with disdain.

I am very happy that Ron Paul won't be our next president, because if he was planning to run the country as he ran his campaign, it would have been a disaster.

As his campaign was (yes, past tense).

He had loads of money, and all the resources were wasted in things that didn't get one vote. The one thing that could have changed people's minds, the infomercials, were never even considered.

Agreed, lot's of people have blind faith in Ron Paul's leadership skills. See I do this real moron thing called thinking, where I question things. One of those things just so happens to be Ron's leadership abilities.

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

Another complete and total waste of money.
Standard.
So far, all told I estimate that HQ and Grass roots have spent around 40million in cash and millions of man hours to win around 16 delegates. Not bad huh?
Now that's what I call a return on investment...
Ridiculous, and launching these thirty minute ads to educate is more money wasted.
He is not going to get the nomination.
It's done. McCain is the nominee.
Months ago I should have demanded they produce quality ads and hired a PR firm and FOR GOD'S SAKE A SPEECH WRITER AND AN EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATIONS COACH FOR RP.
It's been an awful use of 40 MILLION DOLLARS.
Now we have McCI'LLBOMBIRAN as our man.
God help us.

Very true, when you add up the man hours it was a lot of money...

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

None of the campaign staffers want to jeopardize their easy money jobs to do any actual work. That's just not the libertarian way.

hahaha