Breaking: SC Straw Poll Results - Ron Paul 2nd

[jjschless]

Don't be distracted by the Thompson numbers. This is great news! The more the voters find out about Thompson, then only the better we are going to do.

Exactly. Thompson is high in the polls until he commits then the spotlight is going to burn right through that facade and reveal the neo-con worm underneath.

 

[Razmear]

Sounds to me like the paper made up that number,

Nope, not the paper, the local GOP chairman stated:

Supporters of U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, purchased 300 tickets, and supporters of former U.S. Sen. Fred Thompson have purchased 100 tickets, said Tom Swatzel, chairman of the Georgetown GOP. Tickets cost $10 each.

So, did 260 Ron Paul supporters have car trouble today, or did Swatzel provide misleading information about the ticket sales? And why would he do such a thing?

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[MozoVote]

I saw some meetup mail that indicated there may have been some advance purchases to induce people to come and vote for free, but 263 unused tickets is too much for me to beleive.

 

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

How does the abortion lobbyist get away with campaigning but not filing the reports of which he is so fond? Is he afraid of Ron Paul? Does he tremble at the groundswell of spammer support?

 

[quickmike]

Exactly. Thompson is high in the polls until he commits then the spotlight is going to burn right through that facade and reveal the neo-con worm underneath.

Yeah, my fear though is that many Republican voters might actually want a Neo-Con worm as president.

 

[Larofeticus]

So what really happened on the speculated 300 tickets for ron paul was this:

The Georgetown county GOP guy asked a South Carolina meetup person how many ron paul people would come. He responded "i have no idea... maybe 50.. maybe 300"

This got twisted into 300 tickets bought for paul, which is certifiably false, although the statement about Thompson buying 100 tickets could very well have been true.

And we did make a very strong showing. We had the 2nd best organization there. Our supporters beat out romney, in attendence and visibility.

Since we are all completely independent from GOP activities,(and from the looks of it, all the standard GOP members are older than 50 i.e. out of touch) on the county and possibly even state level, they have no damn clue what is going on with us. As far as their gop chairman knew, we might have shown up with a thousand supporters like in greenville. he has no way of knowing, and so he had to try and deflate that possibility before the actual event.

This is a strong barganing chip that shouldn't be wasted. Our representatives can approach county GOP chairs and state things very simply. "you don't know the who what when where or how of the ron paul grassroots support. we know the internet and we know the youth. you can be open minded to the message and we can bring our strength, or you can resist and be swept aside." In some places this claim will be true and in others, it won't, but they have no way of knowing the difference.

I sat in that auditorium and watched reactions. Justin spoke and they shook their heads and dismissed and a couple even heckled. Later ron paul was announced as third (which with a few late arrivals became 2nd) and they shook their heads dumbfounded. With what they don't understand and what we can bring to the table, we may yet save the republican party.

 

[MozoVote]

I do have to give credit those Paulites willing to get in front of the GOP greybeards, and tell them their party is out of touch with the people.

 

[Give me liberty]

Fred Thomspon is not even running!
i wonder did the media add Fred Thomspon because the media are sarced and afriad of ron paul? are they so sarced becuse he might the GOP Straw Polls and he might win the the election?


i mean come on.

 

[RPatTheBeach]

Fred Thomspon is not even running!
i wonder did the media add Fred Thomspon because the media are sarced and afriad of ron paul? are they so sarced becuse he might the GOP Straw Polls and he might win the the election?


i mean come on.

This was a County GOP affair. How would the media add Fred to the ticket?

 

[Bruehound]

I do have to give credit those Paulites willing to get in front of the GOP greybeards, and tell them their party is out of touch with the people.

Please be very careful about taking this attitude of we the enlightened outsiders are going to kick some sense into you stodgy party elders. It is wrong to assume all Republicans have been conned by the Neo's. Yes, many have been but many in the GOP are traditional conservatives who feel disilusioned and betrayed and are very eager to support RP.

It is arrogant to make an assumption all RP support comes from outside the Republican Party. It does not.

 

[Larofeticus]

they were all neo-con greybeards; unfourtunately it's true. i have a strong feeling that all the traditional conservatives stopped participating in georgetown gop events a long time ago.

which is a shame because we might have been able to reach those people.

 

[jj111]

Please be very careful about taking this attitude of we the enlightened outsiders are going to kick some sense into you stodgy party elders. It is wrong to assume all Republicans have been conned by the Neo's. Yes, many have been but many in the GOP are traditional conservatives who feel disilusioned and betrayed and are very eager to support RP.

It is arrogant to make an assumption all RP support comes from outside the Republican Party. It does not.

I think it is better to frame this as the Republican Party leaders at the national level have been increasingly out of touch with their conservative base, and have betrayed the rank and file by abandoning and betraying many basic conservative principles through their actions.

 

[AZ Libertarian]

UH-OH! My bull$hit meter is pegging in the red again!

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Fred Thompson
Position: Campaign Finance
"Following the Senate vote of 59 to 41 for the McCain-Feingold bill on April 2nd, McCain held a press conference at the Capitol. With Thompson present, McCain named Thompson, and a few other Senators as being so important to the bill's success that it would not have passed without their efforts."
McCain Press Conference, April 2nd, 2001
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[fj45lvr]

Yeah, my fear though is that many Republican voters might actually want a Neo-Con worm as president.

Republican voters need to really need to wake up!! They are delusional if they believe that they can talk the same talk and win in 2008....they should go with the guy that has the best chance to beat the Dems.

I was listening briefly to Rush Limbaugh today trying to say that the lower U.S. casualities were a sign that things were getting better....hard to believe that people actually believe that propaganda....it isn't getting any cheaper.

 

[MozoVote]

Maybe things ARE quieting down. And we can keep our troops there for 50 years, like Korea.

 

[Jennifer Reynolds]

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[ghemminger]

I don't get it. Why do these straw polls matter at all if only a handful of bribed people show up for them?

The straw polls are part of the jacked up system of the power elite. It serves as a way of discrediting the 2nd tier candidates....and serves the purpose of deflating or wasting smaller candidates personell and financial resources.

The media 600+ will be at Iowa, because historically it's important...think "Howard Dean" Many things can go wrong for us....but unless we show up in uncontrollably super massive numbers...the MSM will work to discredit him....

My opinion....

 

[RonPaulalways]

Thompson represents those Republicans who are in denial and still don't want to see the truth. If the Republican party is going to have a chance, it's going to have to go with Ron Paul.

 

[Sematary]

Thompson represents those Republicans who are in denial and still don't want to see the truth. If the Republican party is going to have a chance, it's going to have to go with Ron Paul.

There is an almost brain dead stubbornness on the part of neocons to give Ron Paul and acknowledgement at all. They ridicule his poll numbers, they will tell you flat out that the reason they won't support him is because he'll end the war. How fucking pathetic is THAT? War is what they WANT! They still couch the concept of leaving Iraq as a "loss" and the people who say we should as "cut and runners" and worse. We will never reach these people and I don't want to waste my valuable time trying to convince brain dead people to vote in a direction I know they won't - even if he wins the nomination - because they won't - they'll sit it out and hand the election to the dems before they'll vote for Ron Paul. So we have to reach the ones, like a gentleman I know from another forum, who feels betrayed by Bush and the Republicans but still believes in the Republican ideals of smaller government, etc...

 

[Paul-O-Holic]

Gresham Barrett

The reason Fred Thompson won is because South Carolina Congressman Gresham Barrett spoke to the crowd on behalf of Fred Thompson.

Barrett is very popular among South Carolinians.

"The crowd enthusiastically welcomed U.S. Rep. Gresham Barrett, of Westminster in the Upstate, to the stage for his 10-minute speech on Thompson.

"I'll take any of our candidates versus what the other guys put up," Barrett said before the voting. "But come January, cast your vote for the next president of the United States - cast your vote for Fred Thompson."

The shepherd spoke and the flock of sheep voted accordingly.