BREAKING NEWS: ronpaul.com Domain Name Battle update

torchbearer said:
which means, they believe ron will increase their listeners and ad revenue.
his podcast will be an advert. that radio station will show off their chevy.
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It's a one minute spot. It's not a 3 hour program that radio stations can sell to their advertisers. It won't even be considered in the book. This isn't like Paul Harvey News and Comment that ran for (I believe) 15 minutes, and local stations could sell ads (as well as Paul Harvey being a master pitch man for his national sponsors). And speaking of Paul Harvey, that was provided to stations at a very low cost, because they made their money on the ads they sold in house that Paul read. The more stations Paul was on, the better buy it was for the advertisers.

My guess is that if the podcasts are a subscription service that Courtside will give the one minute spots to stations for free.
 
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CaptLouAlbano said:
It's a one minute spot. It's not a 3 hour program that radio stations can sell to their advertisers. It won't even be considered in the book. This isn't like Paul Harvey News and Comment that ran for (I believe) 15 minutes, and local stations could sell ads (as well as Paul Harvey being a master pitch man for his national sponsors). And speaking of Paul Harvey, that was provided to stations at a very low cost, because they made their money on the ads they sold in house that Paul read. The more stations Paul was on, the better buy it was for the advertisers.

My guess is that if the podcasts are a subscription service that Courtside will give the one minute spots to stations for free.
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they have him because they think he will increase listeners.
they will advertise and drive that chevy around- at their expense. i don't believe they gave him this spot out of pitty.
if i had a radio station, i'd have the jackpot with ron. i'd show everyone my chevy.
he'd be feature on my radio station website, on our billboards. the podcast is the product the radio station will drive around and show everyone. they want people to tune in-, otherwise, if ron doesn't generate a increase in listeners- he will be dropped.
 
torchbearer said:
they have him because they think he will increase listeners.
they will advertise and drive that chevy around- at their expense. i don't believe they gave him this spot out of pitty.
if i had a radio station, i'd have the jackpot with ron. i'd show everyone my chevy.
he'd be feature on my radio station website, on our billboards. the podcast is the product the radio station will drive around and show everyone. they want people to tune in-, otherwise, if ron doesn't generate a increase in listeners- he will be dropped.
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One minute spots played during a commercial break of an existing show DOES NOT increase listeners. And even if it did, there is no way that Arbitron would measure that.

And you are putting Ron's one minute spot on a billboard? What does it say "Tune in for Ron'a Paul's America daily from 2:13pm-2:14pm"?

The radio stations, as far as I know, won't make a dime off the podcast.
 
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CaptLouAlbano said:
One minute spots played during a commercial break of an existing show DOES NOT increase listeners. And even if it did, there is no way that Arbitron would measure that.

And you are putting Ron's one minute spot on a billboard? What does it say "Tune in for Ron'a Paul's America daily from 2:13pm-2:14pm"?

The radio stations, as far as I know, won't make a dime off the podcast.
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Business 101 states that you don't hire on new talent that adds expense to your cost of doing business unless you feel there is a good prospect of a return on that investment.
Perhaps i can be teacher?
 
torchbearer said:
Business 101 states that you don't hire on new talent that adds expense to your cost of doing business unless you feel there is a good prospect of a return on that investment.
Perhaps i can be teacher?
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Right, Courtside is going to make money from the podcasts. Ron gets a cut, Courtside gets a cut. I would imagine Ron has some sort of guarantee in this as well. The podcasts are advertised (more than lilkely) through the one-minute commentaries. Courtside may charge stations for these one minute spots, but I doubt it. Courtside is on small stations predominately. You probably won't be hearing Ron on the same stations as Rush is on. Courtside doesn't have relationships with those stations in most markets from what I can see.

You are aware that Ron is going to be on the radio for a grand total of 2 minutes per day right? He isn't doing a radio program. Here is the press release:

"Courtside Entertainment Group announced today that former Congressman and Presidential Candidate Ron Paul will make his national radio and podcast debut March 18, 2013. Ron Paul’s America will feature one of America’s most popular public figures sharing his thoughts and opinions on the issues listeners care about in twice daily one-minute radio commentaries with radio veteran and bestselling author Charles Goyette as his sidekick. In addition to the daily commentaries, Ron Paul’s America will also be available as a weekly podcast to satisfy the growing demand for on-demand digital content."

They are giving people a little tease with the one minute spots. If you want more, then buy the podcasts. Not sure where they are setting this up or what they are charging, but from what I read this is what they are doing. It's a nice idea, but don't make it out that Ron is suddenly going to put suffering little AM stations to the top of the book by his two minutes per day on air.
 
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CaptLouAlbano said:
One minute spots played during a commercial break of an existing show DOES NOT increase listeners. And even if it did, there is no way that Arbitron would measure that.

And you are putting Ron's one minute spot on a billboard? What does it say "Tune in for Ron'a Paul's America daily from 2:13pm-2:14pm"?

The radio stations, as far as I know, won't make a dime off the podcast.
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Always negative when the subject is Ron Paul. Always.
 
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Ugh. It's like dealing with four year old children sometimes here.

Enjoy your sycophantic circle jerk. I'm going to sleep.
 
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torchbearer said:
the man who knows their inner motivations.
i think the offers spoke for themselves.
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i never claimed to know anyones inner motives LOL. But I think some folks would blindly follow Ron Paul off a cliff. I found Ron Paul because I look for the truth and all things and I do not blindly accept answers simply because they come (second hand mind you) from someone I look up to and admire. I especially do not blindly accept answers that have an element of misrepresentation, which was the first thing I noticed in reading the claim put together by Ron Paul's lawyers.

It will be interesting to see the outcome of the arbitration IF it even gets to the point of decision. Obviously, I believe the best solution is for Ron Paul's party to pay the stewards of the domain who as evidence is plain suggests have been good and faithful stewards of his online presence since the day the domain came under their control, irregardless of their motives.
 
torchbearer said:
what is great about all of this is we will get the info, and people will be served their crow pie.
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Perhaps. I believe a more likely outcome is we will never hear about the response and an announcement will come that the domain has been transferred to RonPaulInc. The current people running the site will fade off in to obscurity and we'll all be working hard to rebuild the rank that ronpaul.com has earned over the last 5-6 years.
 
torchbearer said:
if you bought from those people just to turn around and make a profit off of it- then you'd be breaking the terms of domain name leasing.
if you aquired it just to protect the sites from predators- and hold it safe for ron's use- then you'd be like the people newbitech describes as the ex-pat who bought ronpaul.com just to look after ron's interest....
what do you buy the average domain for- and who ultimately leases it to you? for what purposes? are there terms to this lease? how did such a system evolve?
godaddy.com buy your 10 dollar site, then ask for $250,000 because of what that other person did in their lifetime.
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What is the big deal with profiting off Ron Paul's name? That is something Ron Paul has encouraged in the past with the sales of campaign items by third parties. He has sent letters to supporters letting him know that he purchased their merchandise and he really liked it. Yeah he was in campaign mode then, but his campaigns have always been about education and spreading a message. Not much different than what he will be doing now
 
This thread has 52 pages of posts. Other recent threads about Ron Paul and RonPaul.com have 27 pages, 35 pages and 98 pages. Not to mention countless other threads.

This nonsense might be the most talked-about issue ever on RonPaulForums. Not a serious subject mind you, but a dispute over a domain name.
 
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RonPaulFanInGA said:
This thread has 52 pages of posts. Other recent threads about Ron Paul and RonPaul.com have 27 pages, 35 pages and 98 pages. Not to mention countless other threads.

This nonsense might be the most talked-about issue ever on RonPaulForums. Not a serious subject mind you, but a dispute on a domain name.
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meh, I think tech issues with the backdrop of freedom and liberty don't get discussed enough. We all kind of just take it for granted until something like this comes up. We think we "own" our names and our websites. But we really don't.
 
RonPaulFanInGA said:
This thread has 52 pages of posts. Other recent threads about Ron Paul and RonPaul.com have 27 pages, 35 pages and 98 pages. Not to mention countless other threads.

This nonsense might be the most talked-about issue ever on RonPaulForums. Not a serious subject mind you, but a dispute over a domain name.
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If you change your settings, they only have 13, 6 and 7. :)
 
squarepusher said:
Didn't Ron Paul take the free market approach?

He could negotiate and pay $250,000 ($800,000?) for the domain,
or hire lawyers for $40,000 and win the domain back. Seems like he took the most free market approach!
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Exactly, just like Donald Trump paid lawyers to use eminent domain to get a property he wanted. That's how free markets work.
 
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