BREAKING NEWS: ronpaul.com Domain Name Battle update

[newbitech]

They ought to stick to cybersquatting. I could have done a better job designing the website. It looks pretty amateurish.

content earns rankings, not design.

-SEO expert and google search partner.

 

[angelatc]

Which one? Timothy? GeorgeR? Martha Roberts? Or whoever the owner of dummy JNR Corp/Panama is?

I forgot - we don't believe in an anonymous internet any more, now that Ron Paul is involved. My bad!

Did you happen to notice that GeorgeR has an R in it, as in - maybe it stands for Roberts? As in, maybe Martha runs the office and is listed on the contact?

 

[newbitech]

www.americanairlines.com

link the case. this url is not evidence of a case.

 

[Confederate]

like it matters. They offered the control of the .org for free!

I thought they said they'd throw in .org for free if RP paid $250,000 for .com

 

[torchbearer]

I forgot - we don't believe in an anonymous internet any more, now that Ron Paul is involved. My bad!

Did you happen to notice that GeorgeR has an R in it, as in - maybe it stands for Roberts? As in, maybe Martha runs the office and is listed on the contact?

When I see george I think of GHem.
I was for sure he was trolling us again.

 

[angelatc]

I thought they said they'd throw in .org for free if RP paid $250,000 for .com

No. They said he could have the domain .org for free. No strings attached.

 

[newbitech]

I thought they said they'd throw in .org for free if RP paid $250,000 for .com

here is the case

http://www.scribd.com/doc/125951143/13-02-08-RP-Complaint-Encl-Annex

I read it and will go back and read it. In the annex is the letter ronpaul.com sent to Ron Paul where they talk about the .org site and free.

From the letter to Ron Paul (its on page 54 of the document I linked)

To avoid these complications, we'd like to offer you an alternative domain name, RonPaul.org, for your new website at no cost whatsoever.

In fact, it was Ron Paul's lawyers in the complaint that have generated the misinformation that you are reiterating here.

 

[newbitech]

When I see george I think of GHem.
I was for sure he was trolling us again.

1776 in the email address. That number mean anything to ya?

 

[torchbearer]

1776 in the email address. That number mean anything to ya?

it means a lot.
but if i was spoofin someone from here- i'd be sure to put it in my dummy gmail account.
its not like you have to prove you are a supporter of liberty to make such an email.
what would that number mean to a panamanian?

 

[angelatc]

When I see george I think of GHem.
I was for sure he was trolling us again.

I wondered if it was GHEmm, but I can't believe he's be able to keep his own content off the site. He's too ego-centric, i think.

 

[PatriotOne]

out of curiosity, can you find me another case of cyber-squatting where the squatters have squatted for 5 years? What lie? And no I am standing up for the truth of the matter.

As Lew Rockwell eluded to, there was something about him being a politician that didn't afford him the same rights as a regular, say celebrity, to be able to go after the website while he was a politician.

What lie? We can start with the most basic "who they were". There had to be a complaint filed to even find out who the registrant(s) were of the websites. Even now, there's no name attached to JNR Corporation. The mysterious company in Panama that has no web presence at all.

 

[newbitech]

it means a lot.
but if i was spoofin someone from here- i'd be sure to put it in my dummy gmail account.
its not like you have to prove you are a supporter of liberty to make such an email.
what would that number mean to a panamanian?

expatriate? Perhaps, would that make a difference to you?

 

[PatriotOne]

I forgot - we don't believe in an anonymous internet any more, now that Ron Paul is involved. My bad!

Did you happen to notice that GeorgeR has an R in it, as in - maybe it stands for Roberts? As in, maybe Martha runs the office and is listed on the contact?

Hmmm. You could be right. Martha R...wife of George R, runs the cybersquatting office. But who's Tim Martin then?

 

[torchbearer]

As Lew Rockwell eluded to, there was something about him being a politician that didn't afford him the same rights as a regular, say celebrity, to be able to go after the website while he was a politician.

What lie? We can start with the most basic "who they were". There had to be a complaint filed to even find out who the registrant(s) were of the websites. Even now, there's no name attached to JNR Corporation. The mysterious company in Panama that has no web presence at all.

their number and address changes from one report to the next. only the dummy gmail account follows.
that is how i tied them together.


the people holding on to the site will lose, even if they win.
the publicity surrounding this event amongst those who follow ron paul will reveal they tried to shake ron down for way more than that what was required to buy and keep it. they will lose sells, over time- the site will be worthless to them.
especially as the real information as to who they really are comes out.

if its some uber-rich ex-pat that was just trying to hold on to the names- i'd be surprised.
the monetary offers don't reflect that scenario.

 

[torchbearer]

expatriate? Perhaps, would that make a difference to you?

previous post, i had thought of it.
doesn't fit.

 

[newbitech]

As Lew Rockwell eluded to, there was something about him being a politician that didn't afford him the same rights as a regular, say celebrity, to be able to go after the website while he was a politician.

What lie? We can start with the most basic "who they were". There had to be a complaint filed to even find out who the registrant(s) were of the websites. Even now, there's no name attached to JNR Corporation. The mysterious company in Panama that has no web presence at all.

Lew Rockwell "eludes" to a lot of things that aren't true. And "something about him being a politician" is not only unconvincing it sounds contrived. Surely we can find out the facts of the matter?

Who they were really has no bearing, but are we not in favor of anonymity? Speaking for myself, I am. I why not remain anonymous by simply remaining silent on the issue instead of sharing the truth with the thousands of Ron Paul supporters who patronize their website?

No their didn't have to be a complaint file to find out who they were! You can email the people, as it's clear the someone did. Curious, have you tried to email them?
Being anonymous in domain registration is not sign of malicious intent. It keeps spam out! Keeps truly malicious people from harvesting legitimate business owners contact info!

Besides, ICANN has the real information that is validated with credit card. ICANN has the ability to discover who the registrar is. Was ICANN even contacted by Ron Paul's IP people prior to the complaint to find out how to handle anonymous registration properly? Doubt it.

 

[angelatc]

As Lew Rockwell eluded to, there was something about him being a politician that didn't afford him the same rights as a regular, say celebrity, to be able to go after the website while he was a politician.

This is bullshit. we've been through this about 20 times already. Ron didn't magically gain any rights when he retired. Note that Hillary was in Congress when she sued for her domain as evidence.

At it's worst, it means that Ron was perfectly willing to let people spread his message and sell his image as long as it meant reelection and campaign dollars.

What lie? We can start with the most basic "who they were". There had to be a complaint filed to even find out who the registrant(s) were the websites. Even now, there's no name attached to JNR Corporation. The mysterious company in Panama that has no web presence at all.

Which is, as I understand it, standard operating procedure for all domains operating behind an anonymizer. Note that even I have mine aonoymized because I found out that if you don't, the spammers will drive you buggy.

I also own an LLC that has no web presence associated with it. That means absolutely nothing. If you seriously think that every business in the world has an internet site these days, you're spending too much time on the internet.

They haven't lied about anything. Ron Paul, on the other hand, asserted that the .org was offered as part of the sale of the .com.

 

[newbitech]

previous post, i had thought of it.
doesn't fit.

Not sure what your previous post is. The about us page on RonPaul.com explains why they are no residing in the US. Why would that even matter in a formal complaint tho? Seems to only matter to fuel the speculation that these are "bad people". Seems very un-libertarian (which I don't claim to be a purist) but you tell me.

 

[torchbearer]

Not sure what your previous post is. The about us page on RonPaul.com explains why they are no residing in the US. Why would that even matter in a formal complaint tho? Seems to only matter to fuel the speculation that these are "bad people". Seems very un-libertarian (which I don't claim to be a purist) but you tell me.

I'm just putting out the info i'm finding.
I can make an about us page say anything.
If I want to expend the funds on international calls, i'd call them myself. problem is- the probably don't speak english.

 

[angelatc]

expatriate? Perhaps, would that make a difference to you?

I think that apparently the list of people who are approved Ron Paul supporters is getting smaller and smaller.