BREAKING: Aurora Theater Killer Sent Incriminating Notebook to Psychiatrist Before Attack

AuH20 said:
Let's examine the anomalies for one:

(1) Adult friendfinder profile had "Will you visit me in prison" tagline attached to it
(2) Guttural, incoherent voice mail greeting which freaked out the gunclub representative
(3) Gas mask being dicarded on the other end of the theater complex significantly far away from the exit door and parking spot where Holmes was apprehended
(4) The recent discovery of this "mea culpa" notebook outlining the shooter's bloody goals in graphic fashion

Is someone going to extraordinary lengths to prove that Holmes was extremely dangerous and unstable?? That's what I'd guess.
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"Nothing to see here, folks, move along."
 
Bruno said:
If he wanted fame and attention, then sending a notebook with your plans to someone a full week in advance, so they could potentially foil them (if not for an inept mailroom, perhaps) isn't the way to to it.
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The real answer to this is that the guy is simply nuts. He's insane. That's why he sent this notebook to the psychiatrist, that's why he simply sat in his car and allowed the police to catch him, that's why he's constantly spitting at guards in his jail cell. Because he's completely out of his mind. There are some people in this world who simply go nuts for whatever reason. This man is one of those people. There's no need to make this situation any more complicated than it actually is. It's very, very simple. A crazy guy killed a bunch of people in a theater.
 
Bruno said:
If he wanted fame and attention, then sending a notebook with your plans to someone a full week in advance, so they could potentially foil them (if not for an inept mailroom, perhaps) isn't the way to to it.
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The real answer to this is that the guy is simply nuts. He's insane. That's why he sent this notebook to the psychiatrist, that's why he simply sat in his car and allowed the police to catch him, that's why he's constantly spitting at guards in his jail cell. Because he's completely out of his mind. There are some people in this world who simply go nuts for whatever reason. This man is one of those people. There's no need to make this situation any more complicated than it actually is. It's very, very simple. A crazy guy killed a bunch of people in a theater.
 
Regardless of whether he was a lone gunman or a patsy, neither make this look any less fishy (not saying it is, but it's a bit convenient).

I mean, we all know that they never let a good crisis go to waste, so even if the government was in no way involved, does not preclude them from twisting this narrative in a way that fits agendas, and that could certainly include fabricating a document that fits into narratives they're trying to push.

There doesn't necessarily have to be some grand conspiracy (though I'm not going to jump to conclusions either way, and am happy to remain skeptical until its definitively shown otherwise), that doesn't mean that agendas aren't at play in what happens surrounding the event. We all know that they ALWAYS do, especially when the media is involved.
 
Traditional Conservative said:
The real answer to this is that the guy is simply nuts. He's insane. That's why he sent this notebook to the psychiatrist, that's why he simply sat in his car and allowed the police to catch him, that's why he's constantly spitting at guards in his jail cell. Because he's completely out of his mind. There are some people in this world who simply go nuts for whatever reason. This man is one of those people. There's no need to make this situation any more complicated than it actually is. It's very, very simple. A crazy guy killed a bunch of people in a theater.
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That's one theory, certainly. Cops always look for motive, we will see what his is. You say he is nuts, but sane people kill people, too. And there is no evidence I have heard that he was "nuts". So, he quietly went nuts while completing his PhD program, without anyone knowing he was slipping into a crazed murderous rampage?

And yet we also have a missing second person, as has been mentioned.
 
Traditional Conservative said:
The real answer to this is that the guy is simply nuts. He's insane. That's why he sent this notebook to the psychiatrist, that's why he simply sat in his car and allowed the police to catch him, that's why he's constantly spitting at guards in his jail cell. Because he's completely out of his mind. There are some people in this world who simply go nuts for whatever reason. This man is one of those people. There's no need to make this situation any more complicated than it actually is. It's very, very simple. A crazy guy killed a bunch of people in a theater.
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I find it hilarious how much more definitive the conspiracy-bashers are that they know exactly what happened in all instances, when 99% of the people asking questions are merely skeptics who haven't made their mind up yet whatsoever. I'd rather err on the side of skepticism than assume I know everything about everything personally.


And as I said above, him being lone gunman could be irrelevant to this new mysterious piece, that could easily be planted afterwards for various reasons.... Or are you trying to claim that no one has ever planted evidence before to suit their agenda?
 
AuH20 said:
Let's examine the anomalies for one:

(1) Adult friendfinder profile had "Will you visit me in prison" tagline attached to it
(2) Guttural, incoherent voice mail greeting which freaked out the gunclub representative
(3) Gas mask being dicarded on the other end of the theater complex significantly far away from the exit door and parking spot where Holmes was apprehended
(4) The recent discovery of this "mea culpa" notebook outlining the shooter's bloody goals in graphic fashion

Is someone going to extraordinary lengths to prove that Holmes was extremely dangerous and unstable?? That's what I'd guess.
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Keep in mind while all that was going on, no one who knew him noticed anything out of the ordinary or anything that would give any indication at all that he could or would potentially do something like this.
 
Bruno said:
If he wanted fame and attention, then sending a notebook with your plans to someone a full week in advance, so they could potentially foil them (if not for an inept mailroom, perhaps) isn't the way to to it.

Keep the notebook in the apartment to find, after you tell law enforcement the place is boobytrapped. Oh wait, that raises even more questions...
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It is unclear that it arrived before the assault. It was perhaps intended to arrive the day after the assault.
The source said the package had been in the mailroom since July 12, though another source who confirmed the discovery to FoxNews.com could not say if the package arrived prior to Friday's massacre. It was not clear why it had not been delivered to the psychiatrist. The notebook is now in possession of the FBI, sources told FoxNews.com.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/2...out-plans-in-package-mailed-to/#ixzz21fF6SBsa
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It sounds like the bombs in the apartment may have been intended as a distraction for the police while he started killing at the theater-(the loud music was set to start at midnight- a person entering to shut off the music or simply to check on it would have triggered the explosions he rigged and emergency crews including police would have gone there- in the meanwhile, the movie was to start at midnight. He bought a ticket and entered the movie. About ten minutes afterwards he went out the emergency exit, propped it open and went out for about ten minutes which would be 20 minutes after the loud music started. The plan may have included that the apartment would have gone up at this time. He was reportedly surprised to see the police outside the theater already when he left the building there. He expected them to be at his place instead.
 
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AuH20 said:
Let's examine the anomalies for one:

(1) Adult friendfinder profile had "Will you visit me in prison" tagline attached to it
(2) Guttural, incoherent voice mail greeting which freaked out the gunclub representative
(3) Gas mask being dicarded on the other end of the theater complex significantly far away from the exit door and parking spot where Holmes was apprehended
(4) The recent discovery of this "mea culpa" notebook outlining the shooter's bloody goals in graphic fashion

Is someone going to extraordinary lengths to prove that Holmes was extremely dangerous and unstable?? That's what I'd guess.
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(3) Some police arriving put on gas masks to make entry. The same officers also carried out victims and placed them in their cars. The mask could be one of the police and not the suspect -- Devils Advocate
 
Zippyjuan said:
It is unclear that it arrived before the assault. It was perhaps intended to arrive the day after the assault.
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It was either sitting there since the 12th, or not. How does someone state that, and then someone else says it was now unclear? A mailroom knows when packages are delivered. That's what they do. Every day. Now perhaps they were so imcompetent that they not only didn't deliver packages on time, they incorrectly say they have been sitting there for 13 days and then retract that and say they aren't sure and it might have just shown up after the murders.

I'll leave that to the coincidence-theorists.

See post # 7.
 
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AuH20 said:
Let's examine the anomalies for one:

(1) Adult friendfinder profile had "Will you visit me in prison" tagline attached to it
(2) Guttural, incoherent voice mail greeting which freaked out the gunclub representative
(3) Gas mask being dicarded on the other end of the theater complex significantly far away from the exit door and parking spot where Holmes was apprehended
(4) The recent discovery of this "mea culpa" notebook outlining the shooter's bloody goals in graphic fashion

Is someone going to extraordinary lengths to prove that Holmes was extremely dangerous and unstable?? That's what I'd guess.
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There were also witnesses of another guy on a cell-phone who let him in, including a reddit pla-by-play from a police scanner where they were searching for a second guy initially. I also saw something that a witness saw him and another guy running towards his apartment at 7PM, but I can't find a link to confirm.
 
thoughtomator said:
Keep in mind while all that was going on, no one who knew him noticed anything out of the ordinary or anything that would give any indication at all that he could or would potentially do something like this.
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It doesn't add up. Why go to such lengths in terms of preparation and then leave disturbing clues all over the community about your deranged mental state, before even executing the plan??? And if he was driven by a thirst for fame, why prematurely blow up the plot that would guarantee you lifelong infamy??
 
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TheGrinchWhoStoleDC said:
There were also witnesses of another guy on a cell-phone who let him in, including a reddit pla-by-play from a police scanner where they were searching for a second guy initially. I also saw something that a witness saw him and another guy running towards his apartment at 7PM, but I can't find a link to confirm.
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Hmmm... I hadn't read #2 was on a cell phone. If so, who the heck was he talking to?
 
Bruno said:
It was either sitting there since the 12th, or not. How does someone state that, and then someone else says it was now unclear? A mailroom knows when packages are delivered. That's what they do. Every day. Now perhaps they were so imcompetent that they not only didn't deliver packages on time, they incorrectly say they have been sitting there for 13 days and then retract that and say they aren't sure and it might have just shown up after the murders.

I'll leave that to the coincidence-theorists.

See post # 7.
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They may not log every piece of mail but toss it into a bin to get sorted and delivered to the apropriate department. They may not have a record for when it was delivered. Unless they had to sign for it (say UPS or FedEx).
 
Zippyjuan said:
They may not log every piece of mail but toss it into a bin to get sorted and delivered to the apropriate department. They may not have a record for when it was delivered. Unless they had to sign for it (say UPS or FedEx).
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Possible, for sure. Unless it was hand-delivered, (by whom, if not by the suspect?) then there is either a postmark on it or it was tracked through an overnight carrier.

And if it was sitting in bin for 13 days, that person responsible for the inept mail delivery should be fired for incompetence that could have thwarted 12 deaths and 50+ other injuries.
 
wait, he had a psychiatrist? Why?

eta: per the article, the psychiatrist wasn't necessarily seeing the suspect.
 
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UtahApocalypse said:
(3) Some police arriving put on gas masks to make entry. The same officers also carried out victims and placed them in their cars. The mask could be one of the police and not the suspect -- Devils Advocate
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OK, so then where is his gas mask? All his other protective clothing and helmet are by the utility enclosure, and no evidence was moved supposedly. In all the pictures I did not see a gas mask by the rifle or the helmet and vest. I only saw a single gas mask.
 
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