Bradley in DC, I'm callin' you out!

[Shink]

Bring it! Nah, kidding. Here's the point of this thread: some STRATEGY discussion. Hey, that's a novel idea around here lately!

Bradley, you are constantly clubbing your head into a wall when you see anybody say anything about delegates. Now, I don't doubt that you know more about the process than most people do, but: with your knowledge of the delegate process, how about some suggestions for what to do to next? It's fine to tell people they're wrong about a strategy, but how about putting forth your opinion of our best move/best strategic bet?

*What are chances now of a brokered convention?

*What could possibly be done to (try to) make one occur?

*Will Ron staying in as a Republican up his chances with this race?

*Anything else you want everyone to consider?

Thanks. Anything to keep productive rather than speculative/negative would be great.

 

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Bump

 

[Apauled]

Does not matter I will vote RP by writing him in or otherwise

 

[j0ew00ds]

Agreed and bump. Got any bright ideas, he who is quick to dispel rumors?

 

[AlexMerced]

yep, do everything we can and hope for the best, but I would like to hear brads 2 cents

 

[Ron2Win]

Strategy must have been to become mainstream. Have some of the grassroots do some of the ads.

 

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[Avalon]

If McCain sweeps the primaries tomorrow its game over for a brokered convention. Therefore, we need to do anything possible to support the Huckabeast tomorrow. If Huckleberry Hound forces a brokered convention, we/RP can affect the outcome by having delegates (whom are bound some number of rounds). The more delegates, the more influence. It would even be possible for RP to win if everyone worked their butts off to win those delegate slots but it is very unlikely to get everyone to do that at this point.

 

[Shink]

If McCain sweeps the primaries tomorrow its game over for a brokered convention. Therefore, we need to do anything possible to support the Huckabeast tomorrow. If Huckleberry Hound forces a brokered convention, we/RP can affect the outcome by having delegates (whom are bound some number of rounds). The more delegates, the more influence. It would even be possible for RP to win if everyone worked their butts off to win those delegate slots but it is very unlikely to get everyone to do that at this point.

Why not just get Ron a win by getting out the vote? I really disagree with the 'let's vote for Huck' thing...if someone will vote for Huck, who's to say they won't just go along with being a delegate for Huck too?

 

[ShowMeLiberty]

Why not just get Ron a win by getting out the vote? I really disagree with the 'let's vote for Huck' thing...if someone will vote for Huck, who's to say they won't just go along with being a delegate for Huck too?

+100

Vote for what you believe in. Let Huck find his own votes, we don't need to give him ours.

 

[limequat]

If McCain sweeps the primaries tomorrow its game over for a brokered convention. Therefore, we need to do anything possible to support the Huckabeast tomorrow. If Huckleberry Hound forces a brokered convention, we/RP can affect the outcome by having delegates (whom are bound some number of rounds). The more delegates, the more influence. It would even be possible for RP to win if everyone worked their butts off to win those delegate slots but it is very unlikely to get everyone to do that at this point.

Bullshit.
1) Huck doesn't have much better shot than Paul does.
2) Even if McCain does sweep tomorrow -and he probably will- it's still wide open.

McCain currently has 28% of the delegates committed. He's on track to get about 42%. Let him have his beltway states. We'll rack up delegates in KY, OR, and ID.

 

[Avalon]

Bullshit.
1) Huck doesn't have much better shot than Paul does.
2) Even if McCain does sweep tomorrow -and he probably will- it's still wide open.

McCain currently has 28% of the delegates committed. He's on track to get about 42%. Let him have his beltway states. We'll rack up delegates in KY, OR, and ID.

1. I'm not supporting Huck and his chances don't even matter. It's only his chances of stealing delegates from McCain that matters; he's our only shot!

2. Sorry, you're wrong. If he sweeps tomorrow he'll only need like 35% of those remaining and since most of the states left award their delegates proportionally, he'll have it locked up. Not to mention he'll kill of the Hucksters momentum/air.

 

[NinjaPirate]

I'm watching this thread like a hawk. Bradley, respond please!

 

[IRO-bot]

Or are you watching it like a ninja......HMMMMMMM.....

 

[No1ButPaul08]

Not Bradley, but I know a lot about delegates

We need to concentrate on delegates in ALL states, at ALL levels. Delegates do more than nominate a presidential candidate. They also vote on party rules and platform. Even if a delegate was bound to another candidate, they can still have an impact on the rules and platform

 

[NinjaPirate]

Or are you watching it like a ninja......HMMMMMMM.....

I meant my hawk. He does long distance recon. We're essentially "one," which is stated Article 213 Section 9.6.2 paragraph (b) of the Ninja Code that "Ninja" and "Spirit Animal" will be deemed as a single entity. So, when I say, "a" hawk or "my" hawk, it's basically the same thing.

 

[IRO-bot]

I meant my hawk. He does long distance recon. We're essentially "one," which is stated Article 213 Section 9.6.2 paragraph (b) of the Ninja Code that "Ninja" and "Spirit Animal" will be deemed as a single entity. So, when I say, "a" hawk or "my" hawk, it's basically the same thing.

You just blew my mind.

 

[limequat]

1. I'm not supporting Huck and his chances don't even matter. It's only his chances of stealing delegates from McCain that matters; he's our only shot!

DC, VA, and MD are all winner-take-all. Only the overall winner gets delegates. Why would you vote for Huck? He has virtually no shot.

2. Sorry, you're wrong. If he sweeps tomorrow he'll only need like 35% of those remaining and since most of the states left award their delegates proportionally, he'll have it locked up. Not to mention he'll kill of the Hucksters momentum/air.

If McCain sweeps tomorrow, he'll have 33% of the delegates comitted. No big deal. He'll probably get virtually shut out in TX and OH. Many more, as you state, are proportional. He'll get more delegates, but not enough. Check the polls and fundraising data. McCain isn't the lock that you think he is.

Also keep in mind the quantity of unpledged delegates. Currently, 18% are unpledged. About 25% of the total will be unpledged at the convention.

 

[Avalon]

Why not just get Ron a win by getting out the vote? I really disagree with the 'let's vote for Huck' thing...if someone will vote for Huck, who's to say they won't just go along with being a delegate for Huck too?

Sorry, there's NO WAY Ron can win anystate primary at this point. He'd be lucky to win a caucus (outside of states that also have primaries like WA, which we won). Hopefully he can win his congressional district and maybe austin's. In any case, the whole strategy is winning delegate positions while getting as many delegates bound/pledged to ANYONE BUT McCain.

 

[Avalon]

DC, VA, and MD are all winner-take-all. Only the overall winner gets delegates. Why would you vote for Huck? He has virtually no shot.

He does too have a shot in those contests if we deliver him our vote, the anti-McCain vote, and the Evangelical vote. More importantly, it's our only real shot.