Boy Scouts vote to allow gay members

[Swordsmyth]

By accommodate, i mean this "to provide space or a place for a group:" Also mental disorder doesn't mean insanity. Everything doesn't have to be taken to the extreme.

Trans is insanity.
They have 2 places to choose from: the real world where they have to use their Genetic correct Restroom, Or the Funny Farm where they can have their own personal Bathroom and imagine it is whatever kind they like.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Your old folks probably said the same thing about Rock and roll and look at us now. This is fear mongering at is most basal form, don't worry accepting transpeople is not going to do this society in. If anything, the policies enacted by the politicians elected by the so called "greatest generation" is most likely to do us in than silly inconsequential things like Rock and roll and trans acceptance.

Are we more free now than then?

Are we under less surveillance now than then?

Acceptance assumes a voluntary interaction.

There is nothing voluntary about trans acceptance.

Or the latest flag that the SJW are going to pick up: "ageism".

 

[juleswin]

Are we more free now than then?

I think we are less free now than before. The noose gets tighter and tighter with every passing day

Are we under less surveillance now than then?

We are more surveilled now but that I blame on better technology.

Acceptance assumes a voluntary interaction.

Nobody is forcing you to accept anything. You are holding out and you still have your freedom. Ofc, some people fall in line when societal pressure starts to weigh on them. That like peer pressure is still voluntary interaction. You can choose not to go along with society and be treated like an outcast. Its still your choice.

There is nothing voluntary about trans acceptance.

Show me who is putting a gun to your head or punishing your for not accepting?

Or the latest flag that the SJW are going to pick up: "ageism".

Is that you playing the age card? cos it is a fact that older generation

1. Tend to be resistant to new ideas
2. Believe that the next generation's habits and norms will lead to the destruction of society. The video about the Roman empire that I have been posting in Stefan threads had an example of this phenomenon. This behaviour in the older generation is well documented. It has nothing to do with SJW and its no form of bigotry.

 

[timosman]

I think we are less free now than before. The noose gets tighter and tighter with every passing day

I think the noose is really tight or it is not tight at all.

 

[BSWPaulsen]

I agree it is a mental disorder but it doesn't mean that society should shun them and not try to accommodate them.

I think there is still a lot of research to be done on the topic but I tend to agree with the in vitro hormonal dysfunction as the culprit for this disorder and sadly, there is no pill available to fix it.

They should only be shunned if they persist in their delusions and reject all assistance. Otherwise? Absolutely work with them, try to help them cope with their illness.

In vitro hormone dysfunction does not result in a rejection of reality. The result simply does not follow from the premise.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Is that you playing the age card? cos it is a fact that older generation

No, it is me telling you what new right the perversion peddlers and social justice warriors are going to push next:

The term ageism refers to the stereotyping of and discrimination against people simply because of their age.

They are very adamant about love knowing no race, gender or age.

Right now that is focused on cute older couples showing signs of physical affection.

But this will be the battleground: since love knows no age, and all "love" is justified, then pre-pubescent pedophilia must be part of that universe of love.

 

[timosman]

But this will be the battleground: since love knows no age, and all "love" is justified, then pre-pubescent pedophilia must be part of that universe of love.

Where do I sign up?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

truly disgusting.

 

[Chomp]

Don't bring your kids into this infected cesspool.

 

[A. Havnes]

I am not talking about hormones produced as an adult. See, I watched a medical documentary a while back on hermaphrodites and other gender disorder and the way I understood how gender is assigned is this. Depending on the biological sex of the fetus, certain level of testosterone or estrogen is cycled through the fetus system(central nervous system) which essentially assigned them their gender. Now if for whatever reason, the wrong hormone level is cycled through your system, you would have a sexual dysfunction.

This is why little boys behave like boys even though little boy's gonads do not produce any sex hormone and the same for girls and the reason why a lot of the people with this dysfunction probably know something is wrong at a young age.

That's just a theory, and there's a whole lot wrong with it. The level of testosterone and estrogen determines what the baby's sex will be, not the baby's behavior. As I said before, neuroscience and behavioral science has both shown that boys and girls aren't naturally different in thought or behavior, at least not to a significant level. The transmovement is using their body dysphoria to regressively limit human expression.

 

[juleswin]

That's just a theory, and there's a whole lot wrong with it. The level of testosterone and estrogen determines what the baby's sex will be, not the baby's behavior. As I said before, neuroscience and behavioral science has both shown that boys and girls aren't naturally different in thought or behavior, at least not to a significant level. The transmovement is using their body dysphoria to regressively limit human expression.

Actually, your chromosomes determine the sex of a baby but hormones and other factors determine the gender which is a state of mind. And no, boys are girls in general do not think and behave the same way. It is the SJW which that put forth such a ridiculous theory.

 

[kpitcher]

I'm pretty sure the Boy Scouts have already allowed girls for a long time.

No, no girls in Boy Scouts.

The BSA does have a few things for girls like Venturing and STEM but that is not a boy scout. Adult females can be troop leaders. My nephew is in Boy scouts, my niece in Girl Scouts. They are quite different in their focus and what they do. I don't see this as being an issue, this is an organization that teaches respect to all others.

 

[Superfluous Man]

No, no girls in Boy Scouts.

Yeah, after reading an article about this story I realized that.

I was a Boy Scout years ago. And I remember being at summer camp and seeing a girl there in a Boy Scout uniform. I didn't know her and never spoke to her. It was my understanding that she was in another troop. I never encountered or heard of any girls ever having been in my troop, which was a large one. I was told by someone who may well have had no knowledge about it that she was an actual Boy Scout and that she was permitted to be in the organization.

I never inquired about what was really up with her. Maybe it was a renegade troop doing it's own thing back then. I don't know. Now I'm curious what the back story was. That was in the 90's.

 

[timosman]

Yeah, after reading an article about this story I realized that.

I was a Boy Scout years ago. And I remember being at summer camp and seeing a girl there in a Boy Scout uniform. I didn't know her and never spoke to her. It was my understanding that she was in another troop. I never encountered or heard of any girls ever having been in my troop, which was a large one. I was told by someone who may well have had no knowledge about it that she was an actual Boy Scout and that she was permitted to be in the organization.

I never inquired about what was really up with her. Maybe it was a renegade troop doing it's own thing back then. I don't know. Now I'm curious what the back story was. That was in the 90's.

Why don't you reach out to her on Facebook?

 

[Superfluous Man]

Why don't you reach out to her on Facebook?

I have no idea who she is. She's someone I saw 25 years ago and never spoke to and only heard rumors about.

 

[kpitcher]

Yeah, after reading an article about this story I realized that.

I was a Boy Scout years ago. And I remember being at summer camp and seeing a girl there in a Boy Scout uniform. I didn't know her and never spoke to her. It was my understanding that she was in another troop. I never encountered or heard of any girls ever having been in my troop, which was a large one. I was told by someone who may well have had no knowledge about it that she was an actual Boy Scout and that she was permitted to be in the organization.

I never inquired about what was really up with her. Maybe it was a renegade troop doing it's own thing back then. I don't know. Now I'm curious what the back story was. That was in the 90's.

Maybe she was a leader? A female over 18 can be a leader and can be at camps and they have the same basic uniform.

I know I did a number of week long canoe outings in high school, co-ed with there being separate sleeping camps. Not that much supervision, a guide and 20 kids. Oddly enough no real hanky panky went on. We must have been boring kids!

 

[Superfluous Man]

Maybe she was a leader? A female over 18 can be a leader and can be at camps and they have the same basic uniform.

I know I did a number of week long canoe outings in high school, co-ed with there being separate sleeping camps. Not that much supervision, a guide and 20 kids. Oddly enough no real hanky panky went on. We must have been boring kids!

I think that's probably right. She was probably barely over 18. It seemed like I only saw her with leaders.

Thanks. I'll call that a mystery solved.

 

[timosman]

I think that's probably right. She was probably barely over 18. It seemed like I only saw her with leaders.

Thanks. I'll call that a mystery solved.

Isn't this your lucky day?

 

[donnay]

Boy Scouts to begin admitting girls

Boy Scouts to begin admitting girls

By Melissa Quinn | Oct 11, 2017, 1:15 PM

The Boy Scouts of America announced Wednesday it will soon allow girls to join its Cub Scouts program and will develop a new program for older girls to earn the rank of Eagle Scout.

"This decision is true to BSA's mission and core values outlined in the Scout Oath and Law. The values of Scouting — trustworthy, loyal, helpful, kind, brave and reverent, for example — are important for both young men and women," Michael Surbaugh, CEO of the Boy Scouts, said in a statement.

"We believe it is critical to evolve how our programs meet the needs of families interested in positive and lifelong experiences for their children. We strive to bring what our organization does best – developing character and leadership for young people – to as many families and youth as possible as we help shape the next generation of leaders," he continued.

The Boy Scouts of America Board of Directors unanimously voted to allow girls to join the Cub Scout program. The organization also said it plans to establish a new program for older girls that will "enable them to advance and earn the highest rank of Eagle Scout."

Beginning next year, both boys and girls will be able to sign up for the Cub Scouts program, the 100-plus-year-old organization said. The program for older girls that will allow them to earn the rank of Eagle Scout will be available starting in 2019.

Cub Scout packs can welcome children of both genders, but the organization said smaller units, or dens, will be either all boys or all girls.

Boy Scouts of America said the decision to begin admitting girls is, in part, to address the needs of families that are "busier and more diverse than ever," and to reach underserved communities.

"The BSA's record of producing leaders with high character and integrity is amazing," Randall Stephenson, the organization's national board chairman, said. "I've seen nothing that develops leadership skills and discipline like this organization. It is time to make these outstanding leadership development programs available to girls."

Girls can currently participate in several scouting programs, and the group said co-ed programs have been offered since 1971.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/boy-scouts-to-begin-admitting-girls/article/2637174

 

[Danke]

"Cub Scout packs can welcome children of both genders"

doesn't the Cub Scouts know there are more than just two genders?