Boston guy who works full time but can't afford rent kicked out of shelter in favor migrants

[susano]

This conversation is intricately connected to an issue I raised in the Economy forum years ago.
I've left a new post there explaining my assessment of what's really happening.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...es-worldwide&p=7218131&viewfull=1#post7218131

Very detailed and well thought out post. Would agree with this, which I linked in my above post, and would you conclude that Agenda 2030 which the climate change BS, mass migration and gobbling up housing stock by corps is driven by the banks, as you've laid out?

The left blames mass migration on climate change because it's the same agenda: Agenda 2030. The purpose behind all of it is to create a global feudal plantation. A piece of this puzzle that just came together for me is that this connected to the buying up residential properties by corporations. It's part of Agenda 2030!!! That's why Blackrock, Vanguard, etc, are backing the multiple corps doing the real estate buying. Again, you will own nothing and the feudal lords will own everything. When housing is out of reach people demand government subsidized housing. When you're dependent on government housing, the government can dictate where you live and it will be cities, exactly as Agenda 2030 aims for. Sheeeit, three major conspiracies are really one.

 

[Invisible Man]

"The market" says the rich like this place and are gonna buy it out from under the locals and tough shit, too bad so sad - move if you can't afford to stay in your home/hometown.

That sure is a glass-is-half-empty way to look at a middle-class person being able to sell their small house for $1.8 million and move somewhere where they can buy a bigger house for $0.2 million and pocket $1.6 million.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Somewhat related:

College junior, 21, beats Republican, 81, who has served for 20 years in GOP primary: North Carolina student who ran because his rights were 'stripped' during COVID

A 21-year-old North Carolina college student is headed to the general election in November after ousting a Republican state lawmaker who has served 20 years in the state House.

Wyatt Gable won the Republican primary against 10-term incumbent George Cleveland in a race for the North Carolina House District 14 seat by 95 votes.
...
He told Fox News he wants to use imminent domain to buy back land owned by the Chinese Communist Party in his state.

 

[Snowball]

Very detailed and well thought out post. Would agree with this, which I linked in my above post, and would you conclude that Agenda 2030 which the climate change BS, mass migration and gobbling up housing stock by corps is driven by the banks, as you've laid out?

The left blames mass migration on climate change because it's the same agenda: Agenda 2030. The purpose behind all of it is to create a global feudal plantation. A piece of this puzzle that just came together for me is that this connected to the buying up residential properties by corporations. It's part of Agenda 2030!!! That's why Blackrock, Vanguard, etc, are backing the multiple corps doing the real estate buying. Again, you will own nothing and the feudal lords will own everything. When housing is out of reach people demand government subsidized housing. When you're dependent on government housing, the government can dictate where you live and it will be cities, exactly as Agenda 2030 aims for. Sheeeit, three major conspiracies are really one.

Blackrock is an arm of the cabal, but Vanguard is not. The only reason why Vanguard is such a broad owner is because they started so many index funds and mutual funds over many decades. They are just a broad market participant without the same type of purpose-driven agenda that Blackrock directs. Agenda 2030 is just the public narrative for what I described and you mention. They have "lit" and "dark" narratives, along with their "lit" and "dark" markets. Concerning the climate operations, there is most certainly real global warming and there is indeed a crisis, however, it's how they use that crisis to further their plans, which involves the control grid and the fraudulent solutions, like batteries, solar and wind, these programs exist as handouts to their political puppets who make many millions in dollars off their implementation, so it's a payoff for subservience.

On the military and commerical side, the development, expansion of infrastructure, footprint, transportation access and deforestation, ecological warfare and intentional fires, weather patterns managed and controlled by electro-magnetic atmospheric heaters like Haarp and Nexrad, they are all part of the control grid. What I'm saying is that they intentionally make the climate crisis, it is real, but it's happening because of their own policies that are destructive towards the environment, and they have the ability to change weather patterns and weaponize the skies. They intentionally caused the problem, reaction, and "solution", as it unfolds.

 

[Matt4Liberty]

The regulation and laws need to happen at the local level. Here's my thinking on that that protects the rights of private property. I'd like some feedback on this:

Outlaw anyone - individual or corporation owning anything more than ONE rental property. That can be a single family home or one apartment complex. Put a time limit of like a year-18 months for that to happen. Failure to sell off additional properties would result in - I dunno - property taxes being tripled, a forced auction or something. This will cause a massive sell off residential properties and drive real estate prices down, fast.

Not sure if the above would address the Airbnb problem, which also massive, but it would limit ownership of any such property because of the one allowed rental law.

I know that investors would scream about private property and lawsuits would ensue but I don't see it as interfering with private ownership as everyone would own their own home, if they chose, and everyone could own one rental property. It simply stops monopolies by current and potential feudal lords.
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Is this really a suggestion on this forum? Rents would explode exponentially to prices nobody thought possible. Get rid of money printing from the Fed and this problem goes away overnight. Also remove all the absolutely absurd and large permit costs and housing construction will explode. About five years ago I was looking at building my own house in the Seattle area because houses are so overpriced and had no relation to reality. I found out that the costs for permits in King county would be over $200k.

It's another bubble, and like all bubbles, the Fed has more to do with it than the new tech like Air B&B. Yes, that's turning houses into hotel suites, which in turn is turning motels into residential slums. But this is every inch a symptom of the process of the rich getting richer and the poor being bled dry.

This housing bubble will pop, like in '08.

This is the answer. Less government intervention and let the market fix it.

 

[Snowball]

This is the answer. Less government intervention and let the market fix it.

That's actually their M.O.

 

[acptulsa]

That's actually their M.O.

Overregulating and printing money constitute less intervention in the market now?

 

[Snowball]

Overregulating and printing money constitute less intervention in the market now?

Uncaptured financial regulation is not operational.
Printing money is a function of the Fed's independence and unaccountability, which benefitted from all the deregulation.
It's how they consolidated their ownership, like when brokerages and banks were allowed to merge. Putting this in place at the turn of the milennium right before 9/11 occurred was a key change in capturing the American financial landscape.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm–Leach–Bliley_Act

 

[susano]

Is this really a suggestion on this forum? Rents would explode exponentially to prices nobody thought possible. Get rid of money printing from the Fed and this problem goes away overnight. Also remove all the absolutely absurd and large permit costs and housing construction will explode. About five years ago I was looking at building my own house in the Seattle area because houses are so overpriced and had no relation to reality. I found out that the costs for permits in King county would be over $200k.

This is the answer. Less government intervention and let the market fix it.

How is ownership of rental properties spread out over far more owners going to make rents skyrocket? Rents have and already are skyrocketing, along with the price of buying a house.

 

[susano]

Blackrock is an arm of the cabal, but Vanguard is not. The only reason why Vanguard is such a broad owner is because they started so many index funds and mutual funds over many decades. They are just a broad market participant without the same type of purpose-driven agenda that Blackrock directs. Agenda 2030 is just the public narrative for what I described and you mention. They have "lit" and "dark" narratives, along with their "lit" and "dark" markets. Concerning the climate operations, there is most certainly real global warming and there is indeed a crisis, however, it's how they use that crisis to further their plans, which involves the control grid and the fraudulent solutions, like batteries, solar and wind, these programs exist as handouts to their political puppets who make many millions in dollars off their implementation, so it's a payoff for subservience.

On the military and commerical side, the development, expansion of infrastructure, footprint, transportation access and deforestation, ecological warfare and intentional fires, weather patterns managed and controlled by electro-magnetic atmospheric heaters like Haarp and Nexrad, they are all part of the control grid. What I'm saying is that they intentionally make the climate crisis, it is real, but it's happening because of their own policies that are destructive towards the environment, and they have the ability to change weather patterns and weaponize the skies. They intentionally caused the problem, reaction, and "solution", as it unfolds.

If you look at who owns what, you'll find that Blackrock and Vanguard are the majority share holders of each other. The same is true with other large concerns like them. State Street, I believe is another.

 

[Matt4Liberty]

How is ownership of rental properties spread out over far more owners going to make rents skyrocket? Rents have and already are skyrocketing, along with the price of buying a house.

Is this a joke question or something? I'm seriously asking. How is this even a discussion I'm having on this forum? If people are only allowed one investment property, then the amount of investment properties is going to go down exponentially. Most people don't have investment properties, so the few that do, will be limited to one. All of a sudden, most rentals are off the market, and the few remaining ones will be offered at a massive premium.

 

[susano]

Is this a joke question or something? I'm seriously asking. How is this even a discussion I'm having on this forum? If people are only allowed one investment property, then the amount of investment properties is going to go down exponentially. Most people don't have investment properties, so the few that do, will be limited to one. All of a sudden, most rentals are off the market, and the few remaining ones will be offered at a massive premium.

Those single family homes, which were for sale, were bought up by corporations to turn them into rentals. There's a certain profile used for renters and once the renters are in, the rent is jacked way up. That is increasing rents, overall, because most of them are priced using some algorithm service used by these corps, that comes up with the highest price possible, which drives all rents in the area up. There have articles about this for years. Perhaps you've just never read them. It's a real problem. Do you want to see an Agenda 2030 situation where people are priced out of buying their own homes? That's what's happening. Like the WEF video stated, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy and anything you need you'll rent - from the new feudal lords, of course. But, their properties will be way overpriced, which they'll get away with because they'll control the market for single family homes and that will force people into apartments and government subsidized housing.

 

[Matt4Liberty]

Those single family homes, which were for sale, were bought up by corporations to turn them into rentals. There's a certain profile used for renters and once the renters are in, the rent is jacked way up. That is increasing rents, overall, because most of them are priced using some algorithm service used by these corps, that comes up with the highest price possible, which drives all rents in the area up. There have articles about this for years. Perhaps you've just never read them. It's a real problem. Do you want to see an Agenda 2030 situation where people are priced out of buying their own homes? That's what's happening. Like the WEF video stated, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy and anything you need you'll rent - from the new feudal lords, of course. But, their properties will be way overpriced, which they'll get away with because they'll control the market for single family homes and that will force people into apartments and government subsidized housing.

You're just mixing leftist gibberish and trying to add catch phrases like WEF and Agenda 2030 to try obfuscate it. Prices are high for one reason and one reason only. Trillions pumped out by the federal reserve. Explain exactly how your leftist plan eliminates people being forced into government housing, when that's all that will be a available. Government intervention is always the best bet right? Why not add rent control to really "help" raise prices.

 

[susano]

You're just mixing leftist gibberish and trying to add catch phrases like WEF and Agenda 2030 to try obfuscate it. Prices are high for one reason and one reason only. Trillions pumped out by the federal reserve. Explain exactly how your leftist plan eliminates people being forced into government housing, when that's all that will be a available. Government intervention is always the best bet right? Why not add rent control to really "help" raise prices.

Alright, you've obviously not read the thread nor do you seem to comprehend anything about any of this or you would understand that what's happening is, indeed, the WEF/UN Agenda 2030 plan and it is they who are the leftists, not me. Their plan is communism for the plantation while they're the lords and masters who own it all - hence buying up single family housing to turn it all into rentals. If you had a genuine interest in any of this you'd exhibit a modicum of familiarity or curiosity, which you have not. Mass migration, the climate agreements (transfer of wealth) and destroying individual home ownership are all the same agenda - UN Agenda 2030, which is the same agenda being pushed by the WEF. These are not "catch phrases". They are real organizations, with real people, who have the money and power to bring about everything we're seeing happen. If you aren't interested enough to have a serious conversation about it then you do you. I will leave with this, though, and you can take note of the target year that the WEF sets as it's goal. You might also take the time to view [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] 's invasion thread:


https://www.bitchute.com/video/e6rmG1ZMyOoS/

 

[Anti Federalist]

You might also take the time to view [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] 's invasion thread:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?559879-Invasion-USA

She's right and so are you.

Yes, the fed exploding the money supply is part of this.

But the millions and millions and millions of invaders that are now here over just the last three years all need to eat sleep and shit somewhere. That drives up prices in a market that was already tight to begin with.

Gov debt is now the single biggest federal gov expenditure. That drives up interest rates for everybody.

Massive real estate buys by companies like Blackrock push scarcity and costs even more.

Immediate solutions?

Stop the spending. Veto any deficit budget, better yet, refuse to pass out the house or senate, any deficit budget.

Audit the fed. Put them on notice that they are soon going to be brought in check.

Massive deportations. Deport the invading army by the millions. You cannot prove you are a citizen of the US, then out you fucking go. ¡Afuera! That alone would free up millions of mostly low income housing units, increasing availability and driving costs down.

Pass legislation banning residential housing from being purchased by foreign interests or commercial investors or bundlers.

This is not a made up bullshit issue.

My daughter and her fiancé are trying to buy a home. Both of them are in their mid twenties, both have FICO scores over 800, both have excellent jobs and made a combined income well north of $100,000 a year.

They have done everything right, worked hard and kept their noses to the grindstone.

And they cannot safely afford a decent home to start a family at today's prices and interest rates.

 

[susano]

My daughter and her fiancé are trying to buy a home. Both of them are in their mid twenties, both have FICO scores over 800, both have excellent jobs and made a combined income well north of $100,000 a year.

They have done everything right, worked hard and kept their noses to the grindstone.

And they cannot safely afford a decent home to start a family at today's prices and interest rates.

Which results in them being forced to rent in a market where corporations are driving up rents by gobbling up housing stock and jacking up rents! That results in making it harder or next to impossible to save for a down payment and if they're fortunate to accomplish saving that money, their competition for a single family home will be proxies of Blackrock, Vanguard, etc., who can and do outbid everyone.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Which results in them being forced to rent in a market where corporations are driving up rents by gobbling up housing stock and jacking up rents! That results in making it harder or next to impossible to save for a down payment and if they're fortunate to accomplish saving that money, their competition for a single family home will be proxies of Blackrock, Vanguard, etc., who can and do outbid everyone.

Exactly.

They are currently renting a two BR 800 sq/ft apartment which costs three time what my mortgage does.

 

[Matt4Liberty]

Alright, you've obviously not read the thread nor do you seem to comprehend anything about any of this or you would understand that what's happening is, indeed, the WEF/UN Agenda 2030 plan and it is they who are the leftists, not me. Their plan is communism for the plantation while they're the lords and masters who own it all - hence buying up single family housing to turn it all into rentals. If you had a genuine interest in any of this you'd exhibit a modicum of familiarity or curiosity, which you have not. Mass migration, the climate agreements (transfer of wealth) and destroying individual home ownership are all the same agenda - UN Agenda 2030, which is the same agenda being pushed by the WEF. These are not "catch phrases". They are real organizations, with real people, who have the money and power to bring about everything we're seeing happen. If you aren't interested enough to have a serious conversation about it then you do you. I will leave with this, though, and you can take note of the target year that the WEF sets as it's goal. You might also take the time to view [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] 's invasion thread:


https://www.bitchute.com/video/e6rmG1ZMyOoS/

You're the one calling for government intervention against property rights. You fail to see how you're falling right in line with Marxist ideals, and you accuse me of not wanting to have a serious conversation. The answer is less government not more.

Since this is right out of the communist playbook, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that the senile pedophile's regime could pass your idea. You fail to explain how having less rental properties available will result in lower rents. This is an argument I would expect to have somewhere like WaPo, not a forum named after the biggest champion for free markets in over 100 years. Get rid of the Fed and let the markets correct, and we'll be talking about the opposite problem in a few years.

The markets were already starting to correct at the end of 2019/early 2020. The REPO markets were collapsing. Then they added 3 trillion federal reserve debt coupons into circulation and artificially low rates caused prices to skyrocket. Today prices are also starting to drop. Let markets fix this. We don't need communist solutions.

 

[susano]

You're the one calling for government intervention against property rights. You fail to see how you're falling right in line with Marxist ideals, and you accuse me of not wanting to have a serious conversation. The answer is less government not more.

Since this is right out of the communist playbook, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that the senile pedophile's regime could pass your idea. You fail to explain how having less rental properties available will result in lower rents. This is an argument I would expect to have somewhere like WaPo, not a forum named after the biggest champion for free markets in over 100 years. Get rid of the Fed and let the markets correct, and we'll be talking about the opposite problem in a few years.

The markets were already starting to correct at the end of 2019/early 2020. The REPO markets were collapsing. Then they added 3 trillion federal reserve debt coupons into circulation and artificially low rates caused prices to skyrocket. Today prices are also starting to drop. Let markets fix this. We don't need communist solutions.

What you're saying is that it would be Marxist to try to curtail the carrying out of an actual Marxist plan, Agenda 2030.

 

[acptulsa]

What you're saying is that it would be Marxist to try to curtail the carrying out of an actual Marxist plan, Agenda 2030.

No, he's saying that the homeopathic cure is much healthier than the Big Pharma chemical cure. Far fewer side effects. I know you want to be proactive, but being proactive got us here. A free market operating on sound money certainly didn't cause this.