Boston guy who works full time but can't afford rent kicked out of shelter in favor migrants

[Invisible Man]

No, unless I'm wrong, she is saying is this is how you get communism.

As opposed to what alternative that she has in mind?

You are already outed as a commie. So I know where you stand on this.

But she has that same aroma. It's sounding a lot like her plan is to become communist so that we can avoid becoming communist.

 

[susano]

Yes. Most recently a tax payer funded shelter. In his early years, his parents' home. If there was some earlier point in his adult life that he was able to afford to live in Boston on the money he was earning, I'm not sure which change that occurred between then and now resulted in his no longer being able to afford it, but whatever that change was, it was not that the city became a bastion of free market capitalism.

What do you think might be the solution - not just in Boston but anywhere where big money moves in and prices out the locals?

 

[Invisible Man]

What do you think might be the solution - not just in Boston but anywhere where big money moves in and prices out the locals?

I don't accept your premise that the problem is big money moving in and pricing out the locals. Big money doesn't create the market conditions. It adapts to them. The free market is the solution. Deregulate. Cut taxes. Eliminate zoning. Privatize city services. And take responsibility for yourself and your family without a sense of entitlement to live in a cool and expensive city. Moving is a part of life for most people. Accepting that reality is not being heartless.

 

[susano]

As opposed to what alternative that she has in mind?

You are already outed as a commie. So I know where you stand on this.

But she has that same aroma. It's sounding a lot like her plan is to become communist so that we can avoid becoming communist.

I wish we had an eye roll emogie because you don't even sound serious. Do you honestly believe that acknowledging this crisis and that greed is a real thing means I'm a communist? FYI, I don't believe the state should own any housing, nor do I believe in rent control. I do have vague idea of how to drive down property values, which would drive down rents, too, but I'm not sure it's liberty consistent.

 

[susano]

As opposed to what alternative that she has in mind?

You are already outed as a commie. So I know where you stand on this.

But she has that same aroma. It's sounding a lot like her plan is to become communist so that we can avoid becoming communist.

Oh, wait. You just called [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] a commie? Would that be because he doesn't support some total anarchy free for all Utopia?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Oh, wait. You just called [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] a commie? Would that be because he doesn't support some total anarchy free for all Utopia?

It wasn't even so much as that.

It was because I dared to suggest that I have I say so in what type of community I live in.

That my home is more than just my four walls that comprise my house.

The man in this video is expressing the same idea.

But he is no longer "economically viable" and all his ethnic credits are used up as well, so he is now an unperson.

It will happen to you, and me, and Invisible shortly.

(Notice that, whatever happens, the cops always appear well fed and taken care of.)

 

[Anti Federalist]

I'm not sure which change that occurred between then and now resulted in his no longer being able to afford it, but whatever that change was, it was not that the city became a bastion of free market capitalism.

Millions and millions and millions of wretched refuse washed ashore in the last ten years, that's what changed.

Homes and apartments and shelters and flophouses are a limited resource.

Rapidly increased demand and limited supply equals rising prices.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Yes, that's what I'm saying and I get sick of the black and white thinking that if one opposes greed and monopolies they must be a shitlib commie or something. I hate Marxism and have read a long first hand account, Leaves of a Russian Diary, of someone who lived through the Bolshevik revolution. Making it impossible for people earning an honest living to have a place to live is a recipe for that. His misery is legitimate and needs to be taken seriously. It seems to me that the libertarian response is "Too bad, so sad, buddy. Now move or get three jobs".
[MENTION=75029]Invisible Man[/MENTION]

We'd be lucky to have Bolsheviks.

"Let them eat cake" led to Jacobin death squads in France.

That is what the invading migrant army will be used for.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

While what I've read has not pertained to high density housing in cities, I've followed the subject of Blackrock and other investment behemoths buying up single family housing with the sole purpose of turning them into rentals and jacking up the rent. The use a formula for who they target which are young professionals with little kids looking for a good school district (that's a laugh) and a safe neighborhood. Once they get them in as renters, they raise the rent WAY up. Not because they aren't already making a profit but because they want more. Between the financial firms and Airbnb, the residential markets have shot sky high so there's nowhere else for the tenants to move if they want to keep their jobs. I read about a new suburban development in Texas where Blackrock or Vanguard went in and bought over half of the brand new homes. They use front companies, as well - those ones that send out the post cards saying they want to buy your house and will pay cash with no inspection. Their agents are at all of the auctions, as well, outbidding the small time house flippers, often paying ridiculous prices to gain control over a local market. I don't know if this is the case in big cities but I don't know why it wouldn't be. Of course, in the cities there's the additional advantage of nothing new being built to compete against. While rent prices certainly do go up (like everything else) because of inflation of the money supply, there is still the greed factor.

These big investors are playing Monopoly. I'm not sure but suppose the libertarian answer would so be "So what? They bought it, they own it and can do whatever they want and tough shit for those priced out". Is that right? What I'm saying is it WILL lead to demanding socialism/communism which will result in more high density building, outlawing single family zoning (a big thing with the Agenda 2030 plan) and stack 'n pack living in 15 minute cities without cars. Eat ze bugs and get in your pod, essentially. Where do libertarians come down on all of this? I suppose they oppose zoning, as well? Dunno. Are investment firms owning, in some cases, 40% of the local housing market considered "free market"?

I'd add that residential real estate can and is bought as an investment. This was happening on the west coast quite a bit a decade or two ago when Chinese buyers would purchase single family homes in the US and just let them lie fallow. They wouldn't even rent them. They sat empty. It was like buying gold and putting it under the mattress. This was also exemplified by the Chinese ghost cities, which were purchased for investment, not to live in.

Yes, that is a problem.

And Blackrock (and others) purchasing residential single home real estate is also a problem. While much of the money may come from individual investors, the control goes to the ownership of Blackrock, where the majority ownership eventually traces back to the global plutocracy. This is also a problem, as it eventually leads to full control via indirect ownership of everything by the global plutocracy. "You will own nothing, and be happy." The first part is true, the second half is the lie.

 

[Anti Globalist]

Guy should have left Boston a long time ago and moved to a suburb in a state he can afford to live in.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Are you proposing something other than communism?

Because the way you're talking about greedy landlords and all that, you really sound like a communist to me.

What are you proposing comrade? Supposedly the fellow in the OP was paying something to live in the government sponsored shelter. He was replaced by people paying nothing. That is communism.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

As opposed to what alternative that she has in mind?

You are already outed as a commie. So I know where you stand on this.

But she has that same aroma. It's sounding a lot like her plan is to become communist so that we can avoid becoming communist.

And is it better for NGOs and "charities" to take government money to import people who will be dependent upon government when they get here?

 

[susano]

I'd add that residential real estate can and is bought as an investment. This was happening on the west coast quite a bit a decade or two ago when Chinese buyers would purchase single family homes in the US and just let them lie fallow. They wouldn't even rent them. They sat empty. It was like buying gold and putting it under the mattress. This was also exemplified by the Chinese ghost cities, which were purchased for investment, not to live in.

Yes, that is a problem.

And Blackrock (and others) purchasing residential single home real estate is also a problem. While much of the money may come from individual investors, the control goes to the ownership of Blackrock, where the majority ownership eventually traces back to the global plutocracy. This is also a problem, as it eventually leads to full control via indirect ownership of everything by the global plutocracy. "You will own nothing, and be happy." The first part is true, the second half is the lie.

I saw a video, a few years ago, about Victoria BC where the empty houses owned by Chinese was a huge problem. They had so much money that they could easily outbid Canadians and did. The result was, as usual: the people who grew up there were priced out. One lady interviewed was the only person actually living in a house in her entire neighborhood. I know the same thing exists in London, another place where people park money via real estate. I'm sure it's absurdly expensive to live there, to.

 

[familydog]

Completely agree. And, wtf kind of "free market" creates company towns?

On the American frontier (particularly in the Old West) we saw company towns that could be argued were free market. However, as civilization moves in, so does competition and the "company town" ceases to exist. As it should. There is absolutely no place in a developed society for company towns.

In any case, the complete lack of empathy for anyone who doesn't recognize and can't afford to live his own homeland is disturbing.

 

[susano]

On the American frontier (particularly in the Old West) we saw company towns that could be argued were free market. However, as civilization moves in, so does competition and the "company town" ceases to exist. As it should. There is absolutely no place in a developed society for company towns.

In any case, the complete lack of empathy for anyone who doesn't recognize and can't afford to live his own homeland is disturbing.

Yeah, that. If free markets simply boils down to who has the most money wins and everybody else can suck it, that's sociopathic.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I saw a video, a few years ago, about Victoria BC where the empty houses owned by Chinese was a huge problem. They had so much money that they could easily outbid Canadians and did. The result was, as usual: the people who grew up there were priced out. One lady interviewed was the only person actually living in a house in her entire neighborhood. I know the same thing exists in London, another place where people park money via real estate. I'm sure it's absurdly expensive to live there, to.

True story: I was in the sales office of a new development in a city in California. As is standard in California, the development had apartments (not for sale), condos, townhomes, and single family homes. A Chinese woman who could barely speak English started talking to a sales person and essentially said "i want to buy two of them, cash" (Over a million each, BTW). No negotiations, none of the standard buying experience. Just "I'll take two."

At the same time, the news says "we need rent control and new affordable homes for young people and first time buyers"...

Problem-Reaction-Solution.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Guy should have left Boston a long time ago and moved to a suburb in a state he can afford to live in.

The "suburbs" of Boston are more expensive than the city.

 

[acptulsa]

Yeah, that. If free markets simply boils down to who has the most money wins and everybody else can suck it, that's sociopathic.

No. Capitalism used to embrace the idea that, "A rising tide floats all boats." The only times it turns its back on that is when bribing government proves more profitable. Then investors see the company with the psycho CEO paying bigger dividends, and hires a psycho of their own. Monopolies make these things happen; government makes monopolies possible.

Now the money printer go brrrr. Again, all this evil traces back to the Fed. Imagine Yakoff Smirnoff's voice: In capitalism companies bribe government. In fascism government bribes companies. When they're actively destroying the currency, the rich people are the ones who get to spend the freshly printed money first. It's not until then that this new money makes the existing money worth less.

 

[TheTexan]

It wasn't even so much as that.

It was because I dared to suggest that I have I say so in what type of community I live in.

That my home is more than just my four walls that comprise my house.

The man in this video is expressing the same idea.

But he is no longer "economically viable" and all his ethnic credits are used up as well, so he is now an unperson.

It will happen to you, and me, and Invisible shortly.

(Notice that, whatever happens, the cops appear well fed and taken care.)

Your freedoms are much more determined by your neighbors than yourself.

It is only rational to want to have a say in who moves in next door to you.

 

[PAF]

Oh, wait. You just called — a commie? Would that be because he doesn't support some total anarchy free for all Utopia?

Javier Milei