Bombshell: Jamie Kirchick's source revealed!

[rockwell]

OMFG.

Bill White is no more neo-nazi than Ehud Barack. When are you people going to wake up and start paying attention or start doing some research before you post? It's aggravating as hell to people who are doing the grunt work here.

Bill White is the King of Conitelpro among the White Nationalist community. He runs his scams with such alarming regularity I cringe everytime I see yet another doofus fall for it. He works for the SPLC, he attracts disenfranchised and disillusioned people who don't any better, encourages them to dress in costume (it's like Civil War reanactors, without muskets) and drum up fear and loathing and contributions from frightened octogenarians.

Cut it out already.

 

[Strict_Constructionist]

Isn't this the same Bill White that everyone disavowed when he claimed that Ron Paul was meeting with white supremacists for lunch in Virginia? Nobody believed him then, why believe him now? Just because he's on "your side"?

Seems like Bill just wants the attention.

 

[rockwell]

Isn't this the same Bill White that everyone disavowed when he claimed that Ron Paul was meeting with white supremacists for lunch in Virginia? Nobody believed him then, why believe him now? Just because he's on "your side"?

Seems like Bill just wants the attention.

Same old Bill.

It's Skokie all over again.

 

[Francisco Suarez]

Isn't this the same Bill White that everyone disavowed when he claimed that Ron Paul was meeting with white supremacists for lunch in Virginia? Nobody believed him then, why believe him now? Just because he's on "your side".

It is the same Bill White, and he's not on our side then or now. We should not believe a word of his false claims about Ron Paul being a closet racist. We also should not believe any of the lies he's saying now about the newsletters.

But that does not mean he's lying when he says the New Republic contacted him about the newsletter story. My point is that the timeline makes this claim credible. White indisputably knew the story was coming a week before it was public. Since Bill White does not run in Beltway libertarian circles, the most likely explanation of how he knew is exactly what he says: Jamie Kirchick called him for smear material on Ron Paul, and he gave Kirchick what he asked for.

 

[Korey Kaczynski]

Kirchick also solicits communists:

http://oppforum.com/index.php?topic=1683.0

 

[McKinley Mitchell]

Francisco are sure you are not on the same side as Commander Bitch Tits White? You both seem to hate White people except when it fits your own agendas.

 

[dkim68]

Campaign HQ and Paul himself should be informed of all this.

 

[billyjoeallen]

Bill White? Don Black? Pat Green? Charlie Brown? Who are these guys and why should we even give a shit?

 

[McKinley Mitchell]

Bill White is nothing more than an attention whore just like that Kirchick trash.

 

[AlbemarleNC0003]

Bill White? Don Black? Pat Green? Charlie Brown? Who are these guys and why should we even give a shit?

Mr. Pink is a f*gg*t. I know because I dated him. :o

I see no evidence of anything in any of these posts other than people talking about what most of us have known about for years. Meh.

 

[McKinley Mitchell]

Mr. Pink is a f*gg*t. I know because I dated him. :o

I see no evidence of anything in any of these posts other than people talking about what most of us have known about for years. Meh.

You must have been desperate.

 

[Johncjackson]

Dude, relax already. Your posts get worse and worse. The official campaign knew this was coming; I know this because we told them. By your line of reasoning, the campaign was behind the hit piece!

LOTS of us knew the hit piece was coming--and we told the campaign as early as December 18th. The reporter was openly bragging about it at public events here and taunting us Ron Paul supporters. Kirchick said, and reported, that he found the newsletters at a library.

I got called from a few of our local DC Meetup members on December 17th after they were taunted by Kirchick for wearing Ron Paul buttons at a Reason holiday party (I didn't attend and have never met nor communicated with Kirchick). He was bragging about the hit job he was going to do on the good doctor. Several of us notified the official campaign.

Berin, of this forum, wrote about these encounters publicly here. In fact, he was emailing with Berin about the hit piece after the party.

This is the truth.

 

[Corydoras]

Bill White is the King of Conitelpro among the White Nationalist community. He runs his scams with such alarming regularity I cringe everytime I see yet another doofus fall for it. He works for the SPLC

He works for the SPLC? How do you know? That's an interesting claim.

 

[dawnbt]

Bradley - I apologize for the generalization (though I did use the caveat that some at Reason also knew about the thing before it hit), but my point is that the story was pretty much unknown outside of the D.C. libertarian circles before it hit...with one exception: Bill White.

I think it's pretty safe to say that Bill White isn't privy to what goes on in the D.C. libertarian back channels. Yet he clearly knew the story was coming before it hit, and he claims he knew directly from the New Republic itself. That proves White is telling the truth when he says Kirchick called him for material in the hit piece. And that makes Kirchick's credibility as a reporter very suspect.

As to keeping this story going, my whole take is that the cat's out of the bag on the story itself and there is very little effect in either direction of me posting additional comments on it at an internet forum. Ignoring it won't make it go away because too many people are invested in it and out for blood, Kirchick among them. What I can do here is try to offer material for the continued response, including some that discredits Kirchick both now and in the future. In politics, when you're attacked and the attacker gives every reason to believe he'll keep attacking you can't ignore him. The only thing you can do is hit back, and hit back hard.

A wise man once told me that in politics you campaign against your opponent. When the media itself becomes your opponent, attack the media. I know that defies the conventional wisdom about not picking fights with people who buy ink by the barrel but I'm inclined to go with the guy who told me that because he was also elected to state and national offices about a dozen times.

Great work. Thanks for sharing. Some of us would like to know these things. Makes it much easier to discredit these scumbag "journalists".

 

[dawnbt]

Ok, let's try to stick with the facts. We know that dozens of people (certainly in the DC libertarian circles and who knows how many others including in the official Ron Paul campaign) knew the story was coming. We know that Kirchick was very brazenly public about his coming hit piece. We know he easily emailed people about it. We don't know all of the people whom he told about his story. You know of one person (so far?) outside of DC who knew about it prior to it going public (I know there were others).

Now, if you want to say you have a theory, fine. But your stated "evidence" just ain't so.

Why are you defending Krichick? Why is it that people always need "evidence"? Sounds to me like the OP presented evidence. Do you think the media needs evidence before discrediting Ron Paul. We are not members of the campaign. We can call out the journalist as we see fit, henceforth, the campaign keeps their hands clean. This is a revolution, not a "tea party". Fight fire with fire.

 

[Francisco Suarez]

Great work. Thanks for sharing. Some of us would like to know these things. Makes it much easier to discredit these scumbag "journalists".

Happy to oblige. I know there have been some naysayers here and elsewhere about this information coming to light, but I think it's crucial for the PR war against scum like Kirchick. Nobody likes a neo-nazi, and they aren't going to like people who write articles based on uncredited source materials taken from a neo-nazi.

More and more is coming to light about exactly how Kirchick did his "research" for this story and it is pretty ugly. Scour the darker corners of the web for his name, and if you can stomach the vile places he apparently went you'll find multiple examples of neo-nazis, gay bashers, communists and other verminous trash reporting that they were contacted by some guy from the New Republic wishing to do a story on Ron Paul. There's no gutter that Kirchick won't muckrake in and that fact is as much a part of the story as the newsletters.

 

[Francisco Suarez]

He works for the SPLC? How do you know? That's an interesting claim.

There are some very odd conspiracy claims circulating about Bill White, and I think the poster you are responding to is simply repeating one of them. In reality, the simplest explanation is probably the correct one: Bill White is a neo-nazi scumbag, and like most neo-nazi scumbags he's also nuts.

 

[Ricochet]

Remember this about Bill: He will be, and has been whatever gets him attention. Being an asshole gets you the most attention, and as the biggest assholes in the world are Nazis, it is only natural that Bill will gravitate towards them. Since the first Rouge's Gallery entry, White has/had his hands in the Nazi cookie jar several times and in several ways all in relation to "The Movement" ranging from offering his "services" to the Creativity Movement (formally known as the World Church of the Creator) to claiming responsibility for the NA's current woes.

Source: http://www.onepeoplesproject.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=154&Itemid=27

 

[TurtleBurger]

Woohoo, the neo-Nazis hate us! That's the best anti-endorsement you can get!!!

 

[Brewskie]

Has anyone read these newsletters?

I have and I'm going to tell you they are not the racist rant you have been led to believe.

Quotes have been taken out of context, distorted and misrepresented.

Read them yourself and put the whole picture together on what the author is saying in them.

You'll see that they are doing a lot of bitching about things. But they are not the racist rants you have been told they are.