Bloomberg: Today Romney Lost the Election (Does that mean we still have a chance?)

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Ron Paul would have NEVER said that -- "they view themselves as victims." He may have said, they ARE victims.

So Ron Paul thinks the people who have chosen to make welfare their career are "victims"? Doubt that.

 

[No1butPaul]

So Ron Paul thinks the people who have chosen to make welfare their career are "victims"? Doubt that.

Yes, victims of big government. Where have you been?

 

[erowe1]

Yes, victims of big government. Where have you been?

Please provide your source for that quote.

 

[No1butPaul]

Please provide your source for that quote.

In essence, and I'm not going to do your homework!

 

[erowe1]

In essence, and I'm not going to do your homework!

But you're the one saying he said it. Why should I go hunting for a quote that I doubt exists?

 

[No1butPaul]

But you're the one saying he said it.

But I'm not going to go through his speeches and produce a quote for you.

 

[No1butPaul]

More video ... on mideast conflict

 

[erowe1]

But I'm not going to go through his speeches and produce a quote for you.

As far as I'm concerned, that's the same as admitting you made it up.

 

[parocks]

There ain't nothing there. If anything it makes me like him a little bit. I think 47% is a little high, but is that the controversy?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-17/today-mitt-romney-lost-the-election.html



VIDEOS w/article by New York Times:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/17/romney-faults-those-dependent-on-government/

ADD: Pundits basically declaring Romney's campaign dead BEFORE the videos: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/17/mitt-romney-campaign_n_1891606.html. Politico piece about Romney's campaign infighting: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81280.html

Seriously, this couldn't hurt our write-in campaign!

 

[jbauer]

You can gage the response by looking at the likes in the comment section. The anti Romney posts are getting 1800ish likes, the pro romney are getting 100ish.

This is as big as "you didn't build that" Obama got he mullegen

 

[parocks]

This will get him votes, not lose votes. 80% of American voters think half of American voters are freeloaders.

I'm not sure about the numbers, but that's basically true.

These aren't controversial statements, but it's interesting that the media thinks so.

 

[parocks]

Romney is out of touch and out of his mind to write off 47% of voters, if that is what he is really doing. He must be preparing his base for a loss and trying to blame deadbeats for it rather than admit this is all a show and he is taking a dive on purpose. Does he realize that if 47% are already for Obama that he would have to get over 7% of that 10% of undecideds to win? If that is true, he has no chance really, he won't get 70+% of undecideds.

When Romney did his math, his analysis, he was a little off. Reagan got a lot of votes. Romney doesn't understand that a compelling alternative can bring the public employees union people over, or union people over. A likeable person can get votes where an unlikeable person like Romney can't.

But Romney is right in saying that there are a lot of voters who benefit from big government.

 

[VBRonPaulFan]

good, the GOP reaps what they sow. they deserve this and every other embarrassing bit that Romney could possibly put out.

 

[parocks]

What he said is a insult to all those that are unemployed and currently looking for work and can't find a job. He just insured that he lost, the Democrats and Obama will run with this, they will strengthen their base and get the vote out. As long as Obama can get the vote out he doesn't need to convince one Republican to vote for him. Yeah, this just lost the election for Romney, and I think it was not an accident. I think he knew he was being taped. It is all just another part of the show.

No. Republicans know that he's not talking about them. He's wrong to think a Republican can't get the votes of those who are dependent on big government. But his analysis of the situation is basically conventional wisdom. Romney isn't pointing out that he's really no different from Obama, that he won't do anything to remove those things that people have become dependent on.

 

[parocks]

This one was interesting:

Sure, Israel, Romney is helping Israel take over the US Government. I'm against that.

 

[Jingles]

I watched the video thinking it was going to be something bad. Then I listened to the whole thing and asked, "What did he say that kills his campaign? He said nothing that I really object to at all."

 

[Melissa]

For those of you that say Romney told the truth...YOU ARE WRONG. I am one of the 47% that pay no federal taxes but I work and am not on any government assistance. Many people don't pay if they are under a certain income or are single WORKING mothers. We still pay ALL the other taxes, they just say we don't make enough to pay Federal BUT again that does not mean we are on any government dole....Romney used the number in a way that is NOT true

 

[parocks]

The funny thing is, ANYONE, not just democrats, are dependant on the government if they work in the defense industry.

We subsidize a lot of people across the board in all sorts of industries.

That might be where he gets that 47%. 47% is high.

 

[parocks]

Actually Ron realized that the majority of the people in this country are corrupt statists and specifically targeted young people whose minds haven't been corrupted yet and are still open. He actually went farther than Romney in ignoring whole states like Florida because they were mainly senior citizens who he knows for the most part only care about as much SS money as possible and don't care about ethics and ideals the way young people do.

This is mostly good accurate analysis.

There were many arguments here about old vs young.

The old vote, but do not like Ron Paul, because they get money from the government.
The young don't vote, but do like Ron Paul, because they don't get money from the government.

 

[Kords21]

This is mostly good accurate analysis.

There were many arguments here about old vs young.

The old vote, but do not like Ron Paul, because they get money from the government.
The young don't vote, but do like Ron Paul, because they don't get money from the government.

Ironically if seniors had voted for Dr. Paul they would have been securing their SS and other benefits, but by not voting for him, they put their already dwindling benefits at even more risk.