Blimp pledge deadbeats???

[torchbearer]

Perhaps minutes, could be like shares... and your shares give you voting power on project direction... which them should be executed by our paid friends.
Kind of like a board of directors.. or like cooperations vote for their boards...
Or actually, if they could incorporate and sell shares.. this thing will be lifting off tomorrow.

 

[foofighter20x]

Ya know...I had been worrying about that. The whole pledge thing was wide open to pranksters.

Nonetheless...we can still pull this off as a chip in.

Yeah... Best of luck with that.

Really.

 

[slantedview]

Where is the e-mail? I never got one. I assumed that was what the pledge list was all about.

still coming...

 

[slantedview]

I personally don't have time to sort out the controversies. I am spending my spare time organizing delegates and starting canvasing in my home state.

I am first waiting to recieve an e-mail. Once I do I know there will be many more donating and much more likely to be success.
Secondly I will hold my donation until I see $100k in the kitty. I will let the dollars of others be my vetting process.

certainly fair enough.

 

[Primbs]

The more open the operations are, the more money the blimp will get.

Most people don't know the blimp website went live and probably no more than fifty percent of the Ron Paul supporters even know about the blimp.

Support the Blimp.

www.ronpaulblimp.com

 

[Mastiff]

My $0.02 is that salaries should be very low for the non-professional work (e.g. not the outsiders hired in, like lawyers). The coordination and such (the full time grass roots work) is generally fun, resume padding stuff for any motivated young person and the going market rate is low. I think if you have a family and a mortgage, you should bow out and leave the road work to someone else if you won't take the appropriate pay cut.

Correct me if I'm out of line.

I really want this blimp to go, but it seems to be circling the drain. Someone needs to tell us WTF is going on. I'm not honoring my (small) pledge without some real clarification.

 

[JoeSixPack]

My $0.02 is that salaries should be very low for the non-professional work (e.g. not the outsiders hired in, like lawyers). The coordination and such (the full time grass roots work) is generally fun, resume padding stuff for any motivated young person and the going market rate is low. I think if you have a family and a mortgage, you should bow out and leave the road work to someone else if you won't take the appropriate pay cut.

Correct me if I'm out of line.

I really want this blimp to go, but it seems to be circling the drain. Someone needs to tell us WTF is going on. I'm not honoring my (small) pledge without some real clarification.

I don't think it's the salaries that are the issue (though that's certainly part of it). Why is it a for profit general political ad company? Who expects that a grassroots effort will fund a general for-profit startup political ad company? What do they intend to sell in the future and will I even agree with it??

 

[Jagwarr]

If someone contacted Dr. Paul about this idea and explained that the grassroots community has hit a snag on an idea and that we would really really like them to pick up the cost for the one month "basic" blimp idea I am sure he would OK it.

That would settle all these problems, there is no need for anyone to be paid a salary or anyone to fly around more then anyone else or any of that type of diversive stuff.

Just explain it to the good doctor, get the blimp in the air and let's get back to sign waving and email writing and all that good stuff. Those of us that are lucky enough to win a raffle ticket will be able to take a short break and enjoy a few moments together.

 

[jenninlouisiana]

There was a post a few days ago about one person who deliberately pledges 100,000 just to screw with the process.

 

[BeFranklin]

My $0.02 is that salaries should be very low for the non-professional work (e.g. not the outsiders hired in, like lawyers). The coordination and such (the full time grass roots work) is generally fun, resume padding stuff for any motivated young person and the going market rate is low. I think if you have a family and a mortgage, you should bow out and leave the road work to someone else if you won't take the appropriate pay cut.

Correct me if I'm out of line.

I really want this blimp to go, but it seems to be circling the drain. Someone needs to tell us WTF is going on. I'm not honoring my (small) pledge without some real clarification.

Here Here

 

[BeFranklin]

The donation phase has started. Where are all those that pledged????

Pledges don't exist anymore, you are buying minutes. Also, like above, waiting for an email.

 

[Paul4Prez]

Let's get the blimp flying

If someone contacted Dr. Paul about this idea and explained that the grassroots community has hit a snag on an idea and that we would really really like them to pick up the cost for the one month "basic" blimp idea I am sure he would OK it.

That would settle all these problems, there is no need for anyone to be paid a salary or anyone to fly around more then anyone else or any of that type of diversive stuff.

Just explain it to the good doctor, get the blimp in the air and let's get back to sign waving and email writing and all that good stuff. Those of us that are lucky enough to win a raffle ticket will be able to take a short break and enjoy a few moments together.

If the campaign took it over, donations to it would be campaign contributions. They would be limited to $2300, and many of those who pledged have already reached that limit.

The only way the blimp is going to fly is through independent expenditures. If the fastest way to make that happen legally is through a for-profit company, then so be it.

Legally, the terms have changed somewhat between when the pledges were made and what is being sold now, so I'm not sure how technically binding the pledges are, but I'm hoping that everyone who pledged will see this as the best way to get what they wanted (a blimp flying for Ron Paul), and pay in.

The one concern I have is what happens if the blimp drive is under-subscribed. The Terms of Purchase mention that alternative advertising would be purchased if the blimp is over-subscribed, but don't mention what happens if it falls short of the cash needed to get off the ground.

A little more detail for both contingencies would probably go a long way toward making people feel more comfortable buying ad time.

 

[BeFranklin]

If the campaign took it over, donations to it would be campaign contributions. They would be limited to $2300, and many of those who pledged have already reached that limit.

The only way the blimp is going to fly is through independent expenditures. If the fastest way to make that happen legally is through a for-profit company, then so be it.

Legally, the terms have changed somewhat between when the pledges were made and what is being sold now, so I'm not sure how technically binding the pledges are, but I'm hoping that everyone who pledged will see this as the best way to get what they wanted (a blimp flying for Ron Paul), and pay in.

The one concern I have is what happens if the blimp drive is under-subscribed. The Terms of Purchase mention that alternative advertising would be purchased if the blimp is over-subscribed, but don't mention what happens if it falls short of the cash needed to get off the ground.

A little more detail for both contingencies would probably go a long way toward making people feel more comfortable buying ad time.

I think you could legally ask the credit card company for a refund since the product was never giving out - no sale (as opposed to a refund because you weren't satisfied).

However, I don't really want to go to that much trouble, and think it needs to be fixed in the writing, (which leaves much to be desired). I hope the email - carefully worded for legal issues supposedly - is better.

 

[BeFranklin]

FYI: It seems to me that the ron paul campaign could directly buy minutes, just like any billboard. That is interesting.