Black This Out, Want $6,000,000? We Need THE ENTIRE MONTH for Promotion & 25,000 Attendees

Check out the new graph posted on Facebook...

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qwerty, you are misremembering history. Sure, we did great on the Dec. 15th moneybomb, but one of the reasons was that the Nov. 5th moneybomb was the first and only moneybomb there was. We all gave all we could. Then Ron got lots of attention from the media and he was doing well in the debates. So the second moneybomb drew on new people. Sure, some people recharged their bank accounts after the first one, but many didn't. If you had been two dates at once, the first one never would have done as well.

I guarantee you if you mention another day on the bto wall people will hold back some money from this one to give to the next one. It is human nature. People want to please and they want to give to all the events we have. But, it won't be a good thing if they save some for the next time. That would be disastrous.

Give all you can for the year to this moneybomb. Then, let the power of the media bring in a whole new group to Ron Paul and they can support the next moneybomb.

Again you ignore the fact about the e-mail pledges...Nov 5th is small to what we want know and we want BTO to be BIG but we want next one to be BIGGER! That´s what campaigning is all about gaining more momentum. BTO money is just a start to get more donations, bto money will not be enough that´s for sure...

AND the last campaign was not succesfull...we need to get more this time...

I really want to hear your opinion on the facebook pledges. Should we waste those and if yes, then why ? If not what´s your plan to contact them ?

why you are talking to me like that, i bet i have given much more time than you(i get a feeling that you say that i´m against BTO somehow) ... :(



Everybody be productive and think how we can get a good kickstart for the next one with 25.000 pledges on fb from day one! ;)

Maybe we start promoting the next one on OCT 19th on bto fb wall and on bto page ?
 
you are going to make a huge friendlist for that account ? :)

That´s great idea if it works!

Thats the idea - Find as many Liberty minded people and anyone who attended a money bomb this one and past ones. Send them all Friend invites with a message explaining what it is for. I am in the process of setting up the Facebook account, getting pictures and stuff for it before I do any invites. If anyone has any suggestions for what I could add please let me know! Right now we attended The Mises Academy for College! Got a long ways to go!
 
Dusman, do you know who runs that Veteran's Day Facebook Event yet? If they're not communicating with us, we may need to ignore it and make our own.

How long we wait is the question ?

I am all for working together but we have not much time to waste...

and i would love to see little bit better site, http://www.vetsforpaul.com/

dusman has done so incredible job with the bto site that it would be so stupid to waste those resources either!
 
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Thats the idea - Find as many Liberty minded people and anyone who attended a money bomb this one and past ones. Send them all Friend invites with a message explaining what it is for. I am in the process of setting up the Facebook account, getting pictures and stuff for it before I do any invites. If anyone has any suggestions for what I could add please let me know! Right now we attended The Mises Academy for College! Got a long ways to go!

I am not that familiar on the limitations of Facebook. Is there a limit to how many you can invite per day?
 
I am not that familiar on the limitations of Facebook. Is there a limit to how many you can invite per day?

Good question! I have no idea, we will find out. I will google that and find out.

Edit: Not fidning anything that says exactly how many. - My problem now is changing the Accounts name. It won't accept the word Ron Paul Events. Any idea for a name? It accepts Ron Paul though. Once I find one it can take 24 hours to change.
 
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I sure hope you are giving more time to this than me qwerty. I started promoting this when we had 17 people attending. and I work about 15 hours a day on it. I am rarely on here, I mostly spend my time promoting this. It would be fantastic if you are putting me to shame. All the help we get the better.

You are changing the argument...I am not saying to waste anything. I am saying that you have to do one thing at a time. If you tell others about any other moneybomb now, they will hold back some money for the next one...do you disagree? If so, what is the point in that? If you don't agree, then all I can is you don't know people. So, to me, the issue is do you tell people now that we have several moneybombs planned for the rest of the year, or do you focus on this one. I say focus on this one.

If there is some way to tell people AFTER this event about the next one...ok. Sure. I have no problem with that. But, don't do it right away. I know a bunch of us were pretty upset last time that we weren't thanked at all after we gave so much the first time. Instead, the campaign and Trevor hit us up right away for more money. It was like saying...yeah, thanks, whatever, now give us MORE MORE MORE. It came across as pretty greedy to some folks.

However, I know that campaigns do that people all the time, so I guess it works. And whatever it takes to get Ron elected I am all for.

But, please don't destroy all the bloody work we have been doing for weeks on this. Please. That's all I ask. And if you try to promote another moneybomb at the same time it WILL dilute this one. It has to. By definition. You are asking people to give twice in 3 weeks. How can they do that? If they are rich as midas then they will donate the max on Oct. 19th and by law they won't be able to give any more...and if they are poor they will have given all they had on Oct. 19th and they can't afford to give any more money 3 weeks later. Unless, you are asking them to give a little here and a little there...then they can do what you are asking...and again..that would be disastrous. We need them to give it all on Oct. 19th.

Now...if they give all they have because they are only focusing on one moneybomb then perhaps, just maybe, if the media really reports on it, they might get excited and spend a little more on the next one....money they don't have, but will spend anyway....(that is what happened last time, do you remember?) But, the only way you can have a successful next one is if this is the ONLY one they know about and are focused on.
 
If you don't have a name set yet, I would suggest Ron Paul Network. :)

Ha! Thats what I just added to my last post. I'll give it a try.. It didn't like the word events.

Edit: Network is a no go. :mad:
 
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Ron Paul happenings, ron paul stuff, ron paul dates, ron paul actions, action Ron Paul, Ron Paul stuff to do.
 
Anything that I guess they don't view as a persons name gets auto-rejected. We can't just put Ron Paul... Hrmm..
 
I'm working on a Black This Out promo / Webster Hall / NYC visit video. Hopefully will have out in the next day or so.

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I sure hope you are giving more time to this than me qwerty. I started promoting this when we had 17 people attending. and I work about 15 hours a day on it. I am rarely on here, I mostly spend my time promoting this. It would be fantastic if you are putting me to shame. All the help we get the better.

LOL...If you really do 15 hours a day every day i can´t do it, i have to work and have hobbies&girlfriend&friend also...It´s also what you do and how succesfull it is.

And btw i started the first "if you want 6 million for bto-topic in the forums... :D

But i´m not here to tell how much i do for this, i just hoped that you would be little bit more respectfull.

You are changing the argument...I am not saying to waste anything. I am saying that you have to do one thing at a time. If you tell others about any other moneybomb now, they will hold back some money for the next one...do you disagree? If so, what is the point in that? If you don't agree, then all I can is you don't know people. So, to me, the issue is do you tell people now that we have several moneybombs planned for the rest of the year, or do you focus on this one. I say focus on this one.

no i am not...my point has all the time been that "don´t waste resources"... When a huge moneybomb explodes Ron Paul supporter will throw in money until it hurts that´s for sure. WE WILL SEE THAT ON OCT 19TH!

Why you want to repeat the same strategy than last time ? i don´t get it...we don´t want one big, we want 3 big ones and getting them bigger than earlier that´s the way to create momentum. you want 6 million and i want 20 or more...

If there is some way to tell people AFTER this event about the next one...ok. Sure. I have no problem with that. But, don't do it right away. I know a bunch of us were pretty upset last time that we weren't thanked at all after we gave so much the first time. Instead, the campaign and Trevor hit us up right away for more money. It was like saying...yeah, thanks, whatever, now give us MORE MORE MORE. It came across as pretty greedy to some folks.

Ron Paul thanks everytime.

I say we should start promoting the next one on oct 19th. i know i will do that...Love me or hate me and want the next one be bigger than bto.

However, I know that campaigns do that people all the time, so I guess it works. And whatever it takes to get Ron elected I am all for.

DOUG WEAD SAID IT! WE NEED MONEY MONEY AND MONEY!

I´M TRYING TO SAY THAT IF WE USE THE RESOURCES GOT FROM BTO WE COULD DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF PLEDGES FOR VET DAY AND TRIPLE TO TEA PARTY!

THE GOAL IS TO GET RON PAUL ELECTED!

But, please don't destroy all the bloody work we have been doing for weeks on this. Please. That's all I ask. And if you try to promote another moneybomb at the same time it WILL dilute this one. It has to. By definition. You are asking people to give twice in 3 weeks. How can they do that? If they are rich as midas then they will donate the max on Oct. 19th and by law they won't be able to give any more...and if they are poor they will have given all they had on Oct. 19th and they can't afford to give any more money 3 weeks later. Unless, you are asking them to give a little here and a little there...then they can do what you are asking...and again..that would be disastrous. We need them to give it all on Oct. 19th.

destroy ? :rolleyes: YOU ARE TOTALLY RUDE!

how do i explain this to you!

we have had 100.000 donors so far and we had over million votes last time. There´s potential TO GET NEW DONORS!!!!!!

we are not going to get all of those to donate for BTO sad but true. but we can build even bigger momentum for next one and get more people involved and new donors...

Now...if they give all they have because they are only focusing on one moneybomb then perhaps, just maybe, if the media really reports on it, they might get excited and spend a little more on the next one....money they don't have, but will spend anyway....(that is what happened last time, do you remember?) But, the only way you can have a successful next one is if this is the ONLY one they know about and are focused on.

You sure don´t understand the point of building momentum... 6 millions is not ENOUGH, WE NEED MORE! WE NEED MORE THAT BTO WILL GIVE US! 10 million was NOT ENOUGH LAST TIME (NOV 5th & DEC 16th)!

hope you understand that before it´s too late...
 
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