Black This Out, Want $6,000,000? We Need THE ENTIRE MONTH for Promotion & 25,000 Attendees

[Sentinelrv]

Maybe we could do something with these links?

http://www.facebook.com/ajax/browse...8537471&edge=events:users_attending&start=100
http://www.facebook.com/ajax/browse...8537471&edge=events:users_attending&start=200
http://www.facebook.com/ajax/browse...8537471&edge=events:users_attending&start=300
http://www.facebook.com/ajax/browse...8537471&edge=events:users_attending&start=400

If you click "See All" next to "Attending" a popup box will show up with a list of 100 people attending the event. Every time you hit the "See More" link, the popup box expands by 100 more people. It will only expand four times though, revealing a total of 500 people. The links posted above are the "See More" links. At the end of each link it shows the number it will expand to. Maybe there is a way to change the number in the link to reveal all attendees. Dusman would have to help us on this, because I have no idea how it would work.

 

[Sentinelrv]

Well crap.. 5000 limit.. Nothing ever goes right. Now the question is, can Fan Pages send out messages or invite people to events?

Edit: Google says Fan Pages can not invite people to events, they can only send out Updates. /sigh

Maybe you can just make multiple accounts to do this.

 

[Oddone]

Maybe you can just make multiple accounts to do this.

That is possible! A lot to juggle, but lets see how the first friends list goes. If we max out fast then I will go ahead and plan multiple accounts to expand. Now we need to come up with the message we want to send with every Friend Request.

I need to be getting to bed soon, so if anyone with some writing skills wants to give it a whirl. It needs to be short, let them know what we are about IE. gathering supporters, so we can make them aware of events and money bombs etc. Something that makes them want to accept the invite to be friends! Also anyone with any ideas for the Account, such as what I should have up, videos, pictures anything please share. I'll be adding more over the next few days, then I will start the invites.

Edit: Also for now if anyone wants to friend the account Search for Ron PaulEvents or [email protected] - One of those should bring the account up. Send it an invite and I'll accept when I wake up/have time.

 

[Sentinelrv]

I'm also going to bed. If Dusman comes online, see if he can look at those links to see if there's any way to expand the attending list past 500 people.

 

[Birdlady]

No other money bombs should be promoted until the 20th. If behind the scenes all of you want to get another website designed, that is really a good idea. However In the last hours of the 19th we want to be pushing people to donate that night to get the most donations possible. Why in the world would be tell people about a new one coming up? This makes zero sense...

if we get total 30.000 pledges for this and we throw 25.000 fb pledges away, we throw 5/6 our recourses away...Great plan!

I won´t let that happen i have done so much for this! THAT`S FOR SURE! HATE ME OR LOVE ME!

If WON`T dilute if we find a good way to do it! If we start late on oct 19th telling about the next one most have donated for example ?

i am open for conversation about the method but i´m not open to the idea that we lose those people...

Qwerty,
I do find it a bit ironic that you were the one pushing to get FB pledges a few weeks back. You were freaking out in this thread because Dusman didn't want to push the FB event on his website... We tried to explain to you that for future moneybombs, FB doesn't help to create a base of people. Perhaps you now understand what we were saying and that's why it's so important to build a list rather than get ppl to attend an FB event.

I personally think we need to get away from FB as the main source of where people go to pledge. Why do the same thing over and over again here? WHy waste our time every single money bomb and have to be like bot spammers. It seems like a waste of time to me to have to do this every single MB. There is no way to transfer all of these people into the next money bomb. That is the cold hard facts. I am willing to bet that a lot of people who are attending, don't ever check the actual FB page for the event. Links in there are likely only seen by the really hardcore supporters.

I don't want to start a fight, but I am just confused by your actions and the way you come off towards other fellow supporters at times. We tried to tell you that FB is a bad idea because you can't gather email data, but you were very resistant and rude when this was brought up.

 

[lucent]

Birdlady, I completely agree. Facebook sucks, but there are a lot Ron Paul supporters on there which is mostly where the large amount of attendants are coming from. Right now the pledge is the most prominent thing on the website.

Anyone have any experience with Google+?

 

[qwerty]

Really this is the last posts from me for this topic(some people ARE SO ANNOYING!)... This has become non-productive topic where few dictate what should be done and what should not. That stops the productivity!

Even if we were to wait until the end of the night to do it, the people coming onto the page that are donating late will see the updates you made about the next money bomb and decide to hold back part of their money from the 19th and save it for for the next money bomb in an attempt to spread their money out. That is money that they would have given to the campaign had they not seen your post about 11/11/11. In the end, it only transfers money from one date to the next.

With that logic we do we even have the moneybomb if we want campaign to have money allways as soon as possible ? We have big moneybombs, cause they don´t the ATTENTION!

With that logic we shouldn´t promote any MB after BTO

You are not losing people, because they are coming to the page to donate as much money as they can. You are however losing money on the 19th when they decide not to give as much as they can because they saw from your post that there was another money bomb next month. There's no way you can get around this. Anybody that finds out about 11/11/11 on the 19th will have more of a chance of saving part of their money for the next one. The only thing we can do to ensure the maximum amount goes to BTO is to hold off 11/11/11 advertising until the 19th is completely over.

If we get a 25.000 pledge kickstart for the next one i would guarantee we would get 25.000 new people donating who didn´t donate at bto simply cause we would have more people spreading the word than earlier.

Feel free use your energy on doing the same work that was done before. i don´t.

I do find it a bit ironic that you were the one pushing to get FB pledges a few weeks back. You were freaking out in this thread because Dusman didn't want to push the FB event on his website... We tried to explain to you that for future moneybombs, FB doesn't help to create a base of people. Perhaps you now understand what we were saying and that's why it's so important to build a list rather than get ppl to attend an FB event.

I find it little bit ironic that you don´t see who was right ? Where are we exploding, IN FACEBOOK!

When people here understand the fact that MOST OF THE PEOPLE DON`T WANT TO GIVE THEIR E-MAIL ADDRESS TO STRANGERS, SAD BUT TRUE!

Is it then better than those people won´t pledge anywhere ?



I am really really off from this topic cause all you do is IGNORE THE FACTS and this is getting personal. so bye bye.

My final quote for this topic and then i´m off to do whatever i want to!

"There's two ways to define winning. To win liberty, a lot of people need to be more involved. It isn't a numbers problem. We don't need 51%, and the majority will rule, we don't say a majority is all we need. Rather, we need a determined minority; they must be thought leaders, they have to be involved, they have to lead others, and they have to be in positions of teaching, in the media and in different places. We have lost that fight because Keynesianism and Interventionism and our foreign policy have been the prevailing attitude. So whatever you can do to change the prevailing attitude as a leader. You are a unique group, absolutely unique, because most people either don't pay attention or they pay attention at the last minute before an election. So your responsibility is much different. The burden is on individuals like you because once you've discovered what's going on, and are confident about it, you have a greater moral obligation. You are not capable of just dismissing it, you can't dismiss yourself from the importance of this. If you understand it, you have this obligation to spread this message."

"People ask, 'What should I do?'"

"Do whatever you want. Do what you think is important. Everybody is an individual.

The most important thing is the responsibility of yourself and to study and read, and understand it, and how to explain it and convert people. Then, make a decision. Being a participant in Campaign for Liberty is pretty important, and keeping that going, and getting more groups, and more organizations..."

"Our efforts, should, in order to win, what we have to do is continue campaigning for liberty and get more people to agree with us."

What it takes to win - Dr. Paul

bye bye! I´m off from this topic to follow the advice of RON PAUL not the dictators in this topic! Wonder why we have only few people posting in this topic... feel free to have your little insider club to promote your egos, i guess...

 

[Eric21ND]

Both Facebook and the pledge of an email have their shortcomings. Neither is perfect, so its best to co-promote both. We will have a decent email list from the BTO event to build from so future money bombs will have a core base of support. But co-promotion of both facebook events and a pledge site should continue. You can always post on the facebook event page to get people to pledge on the website as well. They don't compete, they compliment each other. Great work on both guys!

 

[lucent]

According to this, you can send a message to all event guests.

https://www.facebook.com/help?page=829

How do I send a message to my event guest list?
To message the event guest list, go to the event’s main page and click "Message All Guests" beneath the event photo. You will be able to send a message to all guests, or to different groups of guests based on RSVP status.

Please note that you can only message all guests if the total number of guests who are attending, maybe attending, or who have not yet replied does not exceed 5,000. Also, if an event is hosted by a Page, the Page admin will not see the option to send a message to event guests.

 

[lucent]

All the people that were invited to the event needed friended as well.

How can I invite guests from a recent event to an upcoming event?
To invite guests from a recent event you attended to an upcoming event, follow the steps below:

Create an event by going to the Events page and clicking "Create an Event" in the upper right corner.
When inviting friends to your event, select the "Filter Friends" menu.
Choose an event under the "Recent Events" heading.
From here, you can individually select friends or click "Select All" to invite all your friends who attended the recent event.

 

[lucent]

Maybe we could do something with these links?

http://www.facebook.com/ajax/browse...8537471&edge=events:users_attending&start=100
http://www.facebook.com/ajax/browse...8537471&edge=events:users_attending&start=200
http://www.facebook.com/ajax/browse...8537471&edge=events:users_attending&start=300
http://www.facebook.com/ajax/browse...8537471&edge=events:users_attending&start=400

If you click "See All" next to "Attending" a popup box will show up with a list of 100 people attending the event. Every time you hit the "See More" link, the popup box expands by 100 more people. It will only expand four times though, revealing a total of 500 people. The links posted above are the "See More" links. At the end of each link it shows the number it will expand to. Maybe there is a way to change the number in the link to reveal all attendees. Dusman would have to help us on this, because I have no idea how it would work.

Assuming we cannot simply contact them all, or see all the guests. Invite the first 500 and then delete them, and then the next 500, and so on.

 

[InTradePro]

All the people that were invited to the event needed friended as well.

There is a daily limit for friend requests of around a hundred, plus you are limited to 5,000 friends anyhow.

 

[JustinL]

For Veteran's Day how about "Bring Them Home" Money Bomb. Support veterans by returning them to their families and sparing them from senseless and endless wars! The URL for it is currently not taken. Will also help to point out how only Paul is true to the idea of bringing them home.

 

[lucent]

For Veteran's Day how about "Bring Them Home" Money Bomb. Support veterans by returning them to their families and sparing them from senseless and endless wars! The URL for it is currently not taken. Will also help to point out how only Paul is true to the idea of bringing them home.

It says the domain is taken when I search.

 

[jordie]

True.. What do yall think of the Bring Our Troops HOME! Theme? It could create very powerful videos and very powerful feelings. Or are you leaning towards 11.11.11?

I like this.

But there will be a lot of confusion over 11/11/11. I know a bunch of other things planned for that day, but it's still a good date to use, people will remember it easily

 

[eaglesfan48]

For Veteran's Day how about "Bring Them Home" Money Bomb. Support veterans by returning them to their families and sparing them from senseless and endless wars! The URL for it is currently not taken. Will also help to point out how only Paul is true to the idea of bringing them home.

I actually really like this. Though I'm not sure if its going to change at this point.

 

[jordie]

Thats actually what I am working on right now, I have created a Facebook account just for this. All I need now are some writers who might want to help me put together a short and well written message for when I send out Friend request. The Facebook account will be used to collect as many friends as possible, that have attended previousMoney Bomb events and to this Money bomb event.

Sorry to be a downer, but I really don't think this is going to work. Your account will set off triggers as a spammer (large number of friend requests and messages after signing up) also people might not like you messaging them and may report you as spam. If a number of people do report you, the accoutn will be reviewed and deemed as not a real person and they'll remove the account and all your hard work. Facebook doesn't want you being able to contact many people as once (hence why you're doing what you're doing because of their restrictions elsewhere) so they won't tolerate you trying to get around their restrictions.

 

[jordie]

According to this, you can send a message to all event guests.

https://www.facebook.com/help?page=829

How do I send a message to my event guest list?
To message the event guest list, go to the event’s main page and click "Message All Guests" beneath the event photo. You will be able to send a message to all guests, or to different groups of guests based on RSVP status.

Please note that you can only message all guests if the total number of guests who are attending, maybe attending, or who have not yet replied does not exceed 5,000. Also, if an event is hosted by a Page, the Page admin will not see the option to send a message to event guests.

I think you didn't read the second part:

Please note that you can only message all guests if the total number of guests who are attending, maybe attending, or who have not yet replied does not exceed 5,000. Also, if an event is hosted by a Page, the Page admin will not see the option to send a message to event guests.

 

[JustinL]

It says the domain is taken when I search.

Yeah I guess I didn't know what I was talking about ... It gave me a page not found. Which I now realize is not the same as an open/empty domain. Sorry. Perhaps there is a close variation we could use that would suffice.

Regardless of the exact words we use I like the theme of donating to help bring them home.

 

[get_up_and_dance]

Hammer of Truth and earsucker support this (since 10/9, sorry for the tardiness).

The ads have already clocked over 120K views, it will at least raise Paul's brand awareness.

*fist bump*