Black This Out, Want $6,000,000? We Need THE ENTIRE MONTH for Promotion & 25,000 Attendees

off topic but...
...I really wish there was a way to get all those people to hit up the call from home program, either through the campaign or the pac or both:
http://phone.ronpaul2012.com
http://volunteers.rp2012.org

Thats something we should work on focusing on soon as well.
Money gets the ads out, calling gets the votes out, yknow?

Sorry to off topic jump here but all I can think about is the 15,000 attending making 100 calls each and doing 1,500,000 calls and the size of the list we'd be accruing from that.
A man can dream I suppose.

Anyway, </topic hijack>

I dont think we should mention another moneybomb until the day after either, but I understand all points involved.
</2 cents>

thanks.
 
through 12.5 hours today we are +394.... we have to kick it up a notch if we want to keep breaking our record.
 
LOL...If you really do 15 hours a day every day i can´t do it, i have to work and have hobbies&girlfriend&friend also...It´s also what you do and how succesfull it is.

And btw i started the first "if you want 6 million for bto-topic in the forums... :D

But i´m not here to tell how much i do for this, i just hoped that you would be little bit more respectfull.



no i am not...my point has all the time been that "don´t waste resources"... When a huge moneybomb explodes Ron Paul supporter will throw in money until it hurts that´s for sure. WE WILL SEE THAT ON OCT 19TH!

Why you want to repeat the same strategy than last time ? i don´t get it...we don´t want one big, we want 3 big ones and getting them bigger than earlier that´s the way to create momentum. you want 6 million and i want 20 or more...



Ron Paul thanks everytime.

I say we should start promoting the next one on oct 19th. i know i will do that...Love me or hate me and want the next one be bigger than bto.



DOUG WEAD SAID IT! WE NEED MONEY MONEY AND MONEY!

I´M TRYING TO SAY THAT IF WE USE THE RESOURCES GOT FROM BTO WE COULD DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF PLEDGES FOR VET DAY AND TRIPLE TO TEA PARTY!

THE GOAL IS TO GET RON PAUL ELECTED!



destroy ? :rolleyes: YOU ARE TOTALLY RUDE!

how do i explain this to you!

we have had 100.000 donors so far and we had over million votes last time. There´s potential TO GET NEW DONORS!!!!!!

we are not going to get all of those to donate for BTO sad but true. but we can build even bigger momentum for next one and get more people involved and new donors...



You sure don´t understand the point of building momentum... 6 millions is not ENOUGH, WE NEED MORE! WE NEED MORE THAT BTO WILL GIVE US! 10 million was NOT ENOUGH LAST TIME (NOV 5th & DEC 16th)!

hope you understand that before it´s too late...

Please wait until the 19th one is finalized. Direct them to pledge on the web site and remind them how important this is, so we can maintain as large a list as possible. Once we get past the 19th, we'll be e-mailing these people about the next moneybomb and will have promoters established on the web site, which can be encouraged to rebuild our Facebook following.

No matter what we do, Facebook provides no effective means to carry over these people and so any forced attempts to get them to carry over will only reduce the impact of the 19th. Don't worry Qwerty, we'll be able to carry over the momentum in other ways. Have trust, my friend! In regards to Facebook, we have no choice but to pretty much start from scratch every time. It's one of the reasons why I dislike using Facebook, but I doubt I will be able to convince anyone otherwise from using it.

However, everyone here is right. It would be a mistake to try and solicit these people right now, merely to accommodate a limitation due to Facebook. Perhaps, later in the evening of the 19th, we can make an adjustment on the Facebook page to point people in the right direction.
 
I think you should wait until the next day atleast before any mention of another money bomb. Specifically I think perhaps you could use the daily graph of donations to verify that the donations have tapered off and the donating momentum is gone from the money bomb. As it can carry some into the next day and even if it doesn't count towards the '24 hour' count, it's still very good to have. I think as far as donations go people need to donate to this one like no other money bomb exists.

Once we do start promoting the next one I agree we should use what resources we've acquired to build more momentum. I think we should take the approach in using the people we got already to build the momentum -- "Thank you so much for giving all you could for the Black This Out money bomb. We know you've given what you can and now to help Ron Paul further you can give of yourself and help us bring more people to the cause of liberty and urge anyone you know who didn't make this bomb to be sure to make the next one on 11/11/11" Work to get new people into the fold instead of trying to repeatedly tap the same people. Of course we're going to get people that may then be able to give some more to the next, but I think with the people we got already the focus should be on spreading the message even wider. Which is what it's really about as all the money is about spreading the message and we can use the money bombs as not just a way to garner money, but to spread the message itself to get new voters to the cause. I think we've done that with this one some and we should aim to do it even more. A duel strategy of getting more money and wider support.

You make a crucial point here - getting other people into the fold. We do need to consider this. While we will likely have 25k attending the BTO event on Facebook, they reflect a very, very small percentage of the base. There are many people that will get on 11.11.11 that weren't on board of BTO.
 
The final point I will make is that we are discounting one major aspect here. No donor for the BTO moneybomb can make their contribution to the campaign, without providing e-mail. This moneybomb may attribute 20k new e-mail addresses to the 100k active donors they have now. Many of these people WILL hear about 11.11.11 because we should anticipate the campaign getting behind our efforts once again. Frankly, those are the only ones I care about keeping in touch with, after all Facebook attendance is merely a soft lead. E-mails collected by the campaign are hard donors.
 
You will definitely want to wait a few days before promoting the next thing. It should be planned out and spearheaded by multiple people with creativity so it is successful like this one should be.
 
Good question.. Guess we will just have to see. The list changes all the time, and I see different people on it all the time. Hopefully I can grab a new person when one pops up thats not already a friend. Outside that, until i start the process I am not sure. But it is better than doing nothing. Right now I have the page setup for Black this out. I can send you a friend invite on Facebook if you like, just message me your E-mail or name.

Edit: Nevermind saw your link your Signature.

Also, if you are actually creating a Facebook account, you won't be able to friend more than 5000 people.
 
What I suggest is a general web page that targets "converted" Ron Paul supporters. A web site that basically solely has the purpose of visitors clicking "I converted to Ron Paul" and collects their e-mail addresses. In this way, we start tapping into people who have never donated to the campaign. All e-mails collected, could then be merged with our moneybomb list and sent out. It is likely we could offset our 25k on Facebook with this list by the 11.11.11 date if it were marketed right.

I'd be willing to create a design for such a page, if someone is willing to commit some time to building it. I can provide the subscription form to our list so that we can make the merging of the lists easy.

In fact, it might be smart to start getting other web sites involved in pulling e-mails just for the purpose of promoting these moneybombs.
 
For people who are asking me to send a message to those attending the facebook event, I can not. This is why we have a facebook fan page as well.

Here is what facebook says about sending messages to people who are attending an event:

To message the event guest list, go to the event’s main page and click "Message All Guests" beneath the event photo. You will be able to send a message to all guests, or to different groups of guests based on RSVP status.

Please note that you can only message all guests if the total number of guests who are attending, maybe attending, or who have not yet replied does not exceed 5,000. Also, if an event is hosted by a Page, the Page admin will not see the option to send a message to event guests.

http://www.facebook.com/help?page=829
 
Wow, seriously guys? This thread has gotten completely derailed off of BTO because of a flawed idea to start promoting another MB. We need to throw all our resources into BTO and not get sidetracked. I have a feeling attendance is lagging today because of this. Stay focused on BTO.
 
Wow, seriously guys? This thread has gotten completely derailed off of BTO because of a flawed idea to start promoting another MB. We need to throw all our resources into BTO and not get sidetracked. I have a feeling attendance is lagging today because of this. Stay focused on BTO.

Agree. THIS IS THE MONEYBOMB THAT WILL MAKE THE CAMPAIGN! we need this one to be HUGE!
 
Keep pushing!

We need to build momentum now, and keep breaking the previous day's record.

If we do this, we can reach 25,000 pledges!
 
Yes, keep pushing BTO, but don't fret a drop/plateau in numbers over the weekend.

Internet traffic generally goes down quite a bit on weekends for all sites.
 
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I don't know if we'll ever top the two megabombs from 2007. The concept was so new and exciting at the time, and now it's been turned into a product...a great one, to be sure, but a product nonetheless...I figure we can reliably count on 1-2 million per MB
 
I don't know if we'll ever top the two megabombs from 2007. The concept was so new and exciting at the time, and now it's been turned into a product...a great one, to be sure, but a product nonetheless...I figure we can reliably count on 1-2 million per MB

We may not top them, but there has been a planning and execution that has been lacking with all the other moneybombs so far this season. Flyers, national radio, social media galore, meetup blasting, almost a dozen grassroots videos. This one will undoubtedly top 2 million. It has the chance to be something special. I hope you put a great effort forth to participate.
 
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