Big grassroot project ideas? Here's mine: A radio station!

the return of Ron Paul radio w/ Dj Loti?

::has flashbacks to December 2007::

Good times back then :)

Loved the Iowa broadcast too - listened all day
 
Last edited:
I would say go for the FM station. I don't have any money to invest with right now, but I'll host! LOL. I crack myself up sometimes.
 
Sounds cool, I'd be willing to help somehow if I see something I can do...

On my own I'm thinking of some ideas I can do... Have to check the legality of these things first...
 
...
...
Tmike,
Great post! This stuff doesn't look too hard. I think these would probably be the best way to maximize our coverage area. I still think it would be good to have a real radio station, so we could have studio equipment and stuff, but with these things I'm not sure if it matters where the studio is!


I in no way was inferring to not have a real radio station. I meant in conjuction with a real boots on the ground RPR station.

My thoughts...

An army of unauthorized RPR micro-broadcoasters could very well change this nation. And being unauthorized and rogue removes any liability from the REAL RPR station where ever it happens to be. Also Advertisers would get an added benefit of having the pirate stations - of course that point could not be used to sale air-time. ;);)

Another plus...Streaming micro-broadcasting of a real RPR station is also way of contributing on a continual basis. Without much out of pocket expense.

If the Ron Paul folks make RPR happen, I'll do my best to make pirate RPR happen.(without your consent of course:D)

TMike

My FM10
2934269043_d850d05002_m.jpg

Note: the FM10 is a bit unstable. For unmonitored use, the unit must be placed in a temperature stable environment (cardboard box w/small lightbulb). The FM10 will suffice if you can't afford ------ the FM25 $139, or the FM30, $199. Both have stable (PLL) broadcast ready features, no filter manufacturing required. --- But they still require a small inexpensive amp (<$20 to make).
 
So, obviously the power of the grassroots is great. The question I pose is, what are the big things we should do for the 2012 election? One thing I think could be the best tool for us during the 2012 election is a radio station...

Good idea IMO, but as you put it, a lot of work and nontrivial financing if this is to be done in a way that will lead it to being taken seriously.

Where would financing come from? If you have the $$, getting people on board should not be that difficult, particularly if they are being paid. It would seem to be difficult at best to run such an operation mostly on volunteers.

Do you have a plan? How would it sustain itself? Would there be advertising?
 
I in no way was inferring to not have a real radio station. I meant in conjuction with a real boots on the ground RPR station.

My thoughts...

An army of unauthorized RPR micro-broadcoasters could very well change this nation. And being unauthorized and rogue removes any liability from the REAL RPR station where ever it happens to be. Also Advertisers would get an added benefit of having the pirate stations - of course that point could not be used to sale air-time. ;);)

Another plus...Streaming micro-broadcasting of a real RPR station is also way of contributing on a continual basis. Without much out of pocket expense.

If the Ron Paul folks make RPR happen, I'll do my best to make pirate RPR happen.(without your consent of course:D)

TMike

My FM10
2934269043_d850d05002_m.jpg

Note: the FM10 is a bit unstable. For unmonitored use, the unit must be placed in a temperature stable environment (cardboard box w/small lightbulb). The FM10 will suffice if you can't afford ------ the FM25 $139, or the FM30, $199. Both have stable (PLL) broadcast ready features, no filter manufacturing required. --- But they still require a small inexpensive amp (<$20 to make).

Hey Mike! You're a HAM right? I got my license a while back. Maybe we could talk sometime.
 
Not a fan of donating to a for profit radio station in Iowa.

Put it online, regularly post the good stuff as a podcast available on iTunes. Have the radio stations website able to do video also.

Instead of paying reporters to go to events, let people who are already there do the reporting, perhaps with a host directing call ins.

Leave open slots for average people to get an hour, take applications/auditions, provide info on how an average joe can broadcast, technically speaking. Invite the good ones to come back at better hours.

Love the simulcast idea, I'm sure no one would want to say no, don't know if company contracts/ advertiser issues would arise, that's OP's problem.

If, IF it can be financially supported, expand to AM.
 
I in no way was inferring to not have a real radio station. I meant in conjuction with a real boots on the ground RPR station.

My thoughts...

An army of unauthorized RPR micro-broadcoasters could very well change this nation. And being unauthorized and rogue removes any liability from the REAL RPR station where ever it happens to be. Also Advertisers would get an added benefit of having the pirate stations - of course that point could not be used to sale air-time. ;);)

Another plus...Streaming micro-broadcasting of a real RPR station is also way of contributing on a continual basis. Without much out of pocket expense.

If the Ron Paul folks make RPR happen, I'll do my best to make pirate RPR happen.(without your consent of course:D)

TMike

My FM10
2934269043_d850d05002_m.jpg

Note: the FM10 is a bit unstable. For unmonitored use, the unit must be placed in a temperature stable environment (cardboard box w/small lightbulb). The FM10 will suffice if you can't afford ------ the FM25 $139, or the FM30, $199. Both have stable (PLL) broadcast ready features, no filter manufacturing required. --- But they still require a small inexpensive amp (<$20 to make).

Sounds tempting ... ;) Really, as a movement, we need to exploit the use of micro-broadcasting .
 
I in no way was inferring to not have a real radio station. I meant in conjuction with a real boots on the ground RPR station.
Yeah I just emphasize the real radio station because, unlike jungletrain.net that plays only DnB, RonPaulradio was the first to break news, and occasionally reached 800-1000+ listeners online. I think it would be a lot easier to have a central command space for the best possible outcome for this idea.

An army of unauthorized RPR micro-broadcoasters could very well change this nation. And being unauthorized and rogue removes any liability from the REAL RPR station where ever it happens to be.

If the Ron Paul folks make RPR happen, I'll do my best to make pirate RPR happen.(without your consent of course:D)

TMike

Haha yeah, well I think if someone sets up a website where people can donate money for micro-broadcasters, that is totally unaffiliated with our website, I guess there would be nothing anybody could do? It would be someone elses responsibility I guess. I don't think we could avoid responsibility if we used the money for this project to buy transmitters.

But I *do* think that maybe it would be a better idea to get a cheaper radio station, like one in Mississippi, and maybe we could find ways to help increase our coverage, through the internet or something.

I also think maybe it would be cool if we could have live video streaming from people with their Iphone, especially from big events. I think we could have different options online, but for the radio, there would be 1 primary broadcast.

Good idea IMO, but as you put it, a lot of work and nontrivial financing if this is to be done in a way that will lead it to being taken seriously.

Where would financing come from? If you have the $$, getting people on board should not be that difficult, particularly if they are being paid. It would seem to be difficult at best to run such an operation mostly on volunteers.

Do you have a plan? How would it sustain itself? Would there be advertising?

I would think with such high unemployment, and hopefully somewhat of a high demand of liberty activists willing to help out, we could minimize the costs of hiring high-priced staff. We can raise 75k to buy a radio station, but we'll still need to pay monthly electricity bills, and other additional costs, so it would be a good idea to raise more. My hope is that, if the grassroots can fly a $600,000 blimp, that we could start maybe $100,000 radio station. I think the benefits are greater. $100k is I think almost as much as someone once paid for 1 advertisement in a newspaper.

Not a fan of donating to a for profit radio station in Iowa.

Put it online, regularly post the good stuff as a podcast available on iTunes. Have the radio stations website able to do video also.

Instead of paying reporters to go to events, let people who are already there do the reporting, perhaps with a host directing call ins.

Leave open slots for average people to get an hour, take applications/auditions, provide info on how an average joe can broadcast, technically speaking. Invite the good ones to come back at better hours.

Love the simulcast idea, I'm sure no one would want to say no, don't know if company contracts/ advertiser issues would arise, that's OP's problem.

If, IF it can be financially supported, expand to AM.

I think having streaming video would be better on a 3rd party website. But I also think it would be great to have multiple video streams available on 1 webpage. I am not much of a web developer, however.

If Peter Schiff is still doing his show, he has a 2 hour slot available on our radio. At least that's what I would say. I, like many other people, love the Peter Schiff show.

I'm sure we would get a lot of people to apply for a show, and we could also get a list of current shows we like, and see if we can make a schedule with them. I don't listen to talk radio too much, but I would definitely start with the Peter Schiff show.

Having a studio makes running a radio station, internet or not, likely, much easier. Trying to run RonPaulradio out of my bedroom for 2012 doesn't sound like the best idea. In fact, I'm not sure it would even work. It would definitely be a lot harder to run the radio station from my house. I could set up a studio, but I'm still a little short of equipment. It would help a lot if I could get $$$ for a mic and a few other things. I could itemize a list.

The point is, I think if we can raise $600,000 for a blimp, I'm sure we could raise $200,000 for a radio station for a year. If we choose not to do a radio station, what are we going to do? Spend 400k running a TV ad? Spending 100k on a newspaper ad? There are multiple, in-depth, comprehensive benefits to having a radio station, and compared to the cost of many other advertising or grassroots ideas, I think the cost/benefit of a radio station is extremely high.

Last time I talked about getting a radio station, it was early in the campaign, and not enough people were really interested in super-big grassroots projects. Like Melissa said, it is deja vu. Here we are in the critical planning stages for 2012. If we don't do a radio station, what idea would be better?
 
Speaking purely in terms of marketing ROI, I don't think this is a very good idea. You're going to pay 3-4x annual earnings plus fixtures for a year's worth of marketing to few listeners.

Those $280,000 price tags are ridunkulus. You can own the airwaves with a media buy with that kind of budget. Granted, you have nothing left to show for it at the end of the schedule, but you'd be on stations with multiples the ratings.

DjLoTi said:
I think the benefits are greater. $100k is I think almost as much as someone once paid for 1 advertisement in a newspaper.

Full page and with circulation in the millions. Compare that to an AM station with a broadcast radius of a few miles, in one state, in a #200 or lower DMA, for one year. :-/
 
Last edited:
But what does it allow us to do? Host local events, broadcast live from events, interview candidates 1-on-1, allows people like us to ask OUR questions, broadcast backstage at debates, break news when it first comes out... ect, ect. Yeah, we could 'blitz' the media for a few weeks...

I'm not expecting everyone to agree with me. But I honestly believe a radio station would be better tool for the grassroots then an ad buy.

And with RPR in 2007, if we can keep up the internet presence, as well as Tmikes idea, I think we could reach a decent audience. Certainly it would be more successful then last time I imagine. And last time, we were in the top 15 internet radio stations on shoutcast (the main internet radio station website)

And plus, it is probably the best way to reach out to supporters and musicians, and create a 'community' project. Like I said, I think it fills an emotional need. When the Nov. 5th money bomb happened, and we had 1400 listeners, and on the radio we were going ballistic with excitement, I really felt it brought us all together. And during the rough spots of the campaign, we can let loose and have fun. We can also discuss our issues on the air.

Again, none of these things will come with an 'ad buy'. JMO
 
Last edited:
I am almost ready to launch his type of thing already. I am just finishing up on my second studio then we will talk....not in Iowa though.......I currently run a small home shopping biz and am branching out!

PM e and we can talk
 
My thoughts...

An army of unauthorized RPR micro-broadcoasters could very well change this nation. And being unauthorized and rogue removes any liability from the REAL RPR station where ever it happens to be. Also Advertisers would get an added benefit of having the pirate stations - of course that point could not be used to sale air-time. ;);)

Another plus...Streaming micro-broadcasting of a real RPR station is also way of contributing on a continual basis. Without much out of pocket expense.

If the Ron Paul folks make RPR happen, I'll do my best to make pirate RPR happen.(without your consent of course:D)

Why not do it legally and get a low-power license?
 
I am almost ready to launch his type of thing already. I am just finishing up on my second studio then we will talk....not in Iowa though.......I currently run a small home shopping biz and am branching out!

PM e and we can talk

Sweet! In Nevada? That would be great! I have a sliver of hope someone would already own a studio and would be interested in helping!
 
Why not do it legally and get a low-power license?

The FCC certified transmitters are very expensive, not to mention problems associated with finding an un-owned spot on the FM dial(AM much easier), time constraints, hassle, hoop jumping, etc..

It can be done, just not with the numbers we need. And for the added effort and expense, the added radius of transmission it just isn't worth it collectively. IMO Not to say that if someone wants to invest that heavily into the movement with a 50 watt LPFM station- More Power to'em. yes, 50 watts is GREAT! And much better than one 1 watt station.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/12743961/Broadcast-Range-Chart my experience has shown that 1 watt will cover a 1 mile radius with the antenna over the roof tops of neighborhoods 25-35 feet (the higher the better). The signal actually goes further, but some receivers are not sensitive enough to pull the signal out of the noise.

from Free Radio Berkeley:
A general guideline is that is takes 4 times the power to double the broadcast distance.
Further, raising the antenna height by just 10-15 feet or 3-4 meters will, in many cases, be
more effective than increasing broadcast power.
A one mile radius covers a HUGE number of people in the suburbs. Even more in the cities. However, large cities have an enormous amount of radio noise, so your one watt radius will be reduced(in some areas substantially).


PX50 - Professional 50 Watt Synthesized FM Stereo Transmitter
Only: $1995.00 FCC certified Low Power FM transmitter
px50-w.gif


PXB5006 - 50W FM Station-In-A-Box
Only: $4295.00 FCC Certified transmitter
PXB5006-w.gif



Note: The FCC is not in the habit of harassing (very lower power) unlicensed stations if they keep their noses clean.

  • Broadcast with very low power <1 watt IMO, max 10 watts but very cautiously
  • NEVER broadcast over an existing station
  • Including very weak stations
  • Don't be stupid - Like cursing on the air
  • have a stable transmit signal- no wandering transmit frequencies

And watch Complete Guide to Building an FM Broadcast Station on Vimeofrom free radio berkeley
 
Last edited:
Back
Top