Biden Pardons Hunter on all counts

Oh wow that sounds pretty serious.

How many decades of House investigation do you think it will take to use it all out?

Well, they can now compel Hunter to testify under threat of perjury...

If they actually wanted to uncover the corrupt system, it wouldn't take that long at all. But since none of them have an interest in uncovering it, we all know this doesn't even get started.
 
Bidens pardon is for crimes far worse tan any previous as far as I can tell , treason , extorting US tax monies laundered by foreign agents etc
 
Well, they can now compel Hunter to testify under threat of perjury...

If they actually wanted to uncover the corrupt system, it wouldn't take that long at all. But since none of them have an interest in uncovering it, we all know this doesn't even get started.

Whew that sounds like a pretty serious threat. I can't imagine anyone ignoring a House subpeona, or just giving non-answers if they do actually show up.
 
Well, you know, if we're putting things behind us:

Manchin calls on Biden to pardon Trump
Sen. Joe Manchin is calling on President Biden to pardon President-elect Donald Trump.

The West Virginia senator claimed that pardoning Trump would make things "more balanced" after Biden pardoned his own son Hunter.

"I am just saying, wipe them out," he told CNN, referring to Trump convictions.

"Why don't you go ahead and pardon Donald Trump for all his charges and make it you know, it would have gone down a lot more balanced, if you will."

Manchin added that Hunter's pardon makes Biden's legacy "difficult."
 
Where's the Pardon for Thousands ... Locked Up for What Hunter Did?

In a highly controversial move this weekend, President Joe Biden did something that he repeatedly promised he would not do: He pardoned his son, Hunter Biden, who was found guilty of crimes relating to the illegal purchase of a firearm and of tax violations. Hunter has been given a "full and unconditional pardon" by his father.

Explaining his rationale, President Biden essentially alleged that his son's legal troubles were the result of a politically motivated witch hunt, and that his Justice department carried out a "miscarriage of justice" against his own son. The "no one is above the law" refrain that Biden and others used against President-elect Donald Trump when he had his legal problems evaporated in the blink of an eye.

To be honest, I don't care that the President pardoned his son. I never believed him when he said that he wouldn't do it. And if I were in his position and Hunter was my son, I'd at least consider doing the same.

What I do care about, however, is the fact that President Biden was the author of the laws that locked up many Black men for doing some of the same crimes that Hunter was just pardoned for.
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Well, if Hunter Biden was Hunter Smith from inner city Chicago or Cleveland, he would probably be in prison for multiple years. Hunter Smith would have already been a felon, because he would've been convicted for possession of crack cocaine. Then, if Hunter Smith was caught with a gun, he would've been convicted again as a felon in possession of a firearm (which carries severe penalties). If you are a felon, you are not even allowed to be in the same room as a person with a gun, let alone purchase one and lie on the form when you do it.

To be clear, I understand the circumstances surrounding the creation of the crack laws of the 1980s and the 1994 Crime Bill. I am from the inner city, and I am old enough to remember the tail end of the crack epidemic. The issue is not the creation of a Crime Bill. The issue is that the finished product went too far. There are a trail of shattered homes and broken families as a result of convictions for some of the crimes that Hunter was just absolved of.

Where is their pardon?
 
I would support some significant limits on the pardon power.


We can not count on norms to limit government, the restrictions need to be explicit.

Such as:

No pardons for one's family.

No pardons for families of politican donors.

No pardons for members of identifiable affiliated creeds.

I think that these would be reasonable limits.
 
While it's hilarious that Biden broke his promise like we all knew he would, Trump would have done the same for one of his offspring in a minute. Hell, I have to admit I might have too in the same position.

Considering how many times I've heard that line recently, it must be some kind of talking point.

Presumably a demonstration of how people would do anything for their children, but how does that excuse a crime? If a judge or prosecutor had a kid that blatantly committed a crime, and they dismissed the charges and said "hey, it's my kid", would that make it OK? Would that make it a legitimate use of power?
 
What was Hunter Biden doing on a Ukrainian energy company to begin with?

The same thing Moncef Mohamed Slaoui, a Moroccan-born Belgian-American researcher who served as the head of Operation Warp Speed appointed by President Trump, who was former Head of the Vaccine Department at GlaxoSmithKline, a British multinational pharmaceutical and biotechnology company with headquarters in London, was doing. Making money.
 
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Considering how many times I've heard that line recently, it must be some kind of talking point.

Presumably a demonstration of how people would do anything for their children, but how does that excuse a crime? If a judge or prosecutor had a kid that blatantly committed a crime, and they dismissed the charges and said "hey, it's my kid", would that make it OK? Would that make it a legitimate use of power?

Well I think in Biden's case, Hunter's plea deal got taken away for political reasons. An average person probably would have walked with a fine and probation. So Biden is justifying his pardon that way. If your kid got the short end, you might too.
 
Today, I signed a pardon for my son Hunter. From the day I took office, I said I would not interfere with the Justice Department’s decision-making, and I kept my word even as I have watched my son being selectively, and unfairly, prosecuted. Without aggravating factors like use in a crime, multiple purchases, or buying a weapon as a straw purchaser, people are almost never brought to trial on felony charges solely for how they filled out a gun form. Those who were late paying their taxes because of serious addictions, but paid them back subsequently with interest and penalties, are typically given non-criminal resolutions. It is clear that Hunter was treated differently.

The charges in his cases came about only after several of my political opponents in Congress instigated them to attack me and oppose my election. Then, a carefully negotiated plea deal, agreed to by the Department of Justice, unraveled in the court room – with a number of my political opponents in Congress taking credit for bringing political pressure on the process. Had the plea deal held, it would have been a fair, reasonable resolution of Hunter’s cases.

No reasonable person who looks at the facts of Hunter’s cases can reach any other conclusion than Hunter was singled out only because he is my son – and that is wrong. There has been an effort to break Hunter – who has been five and a half years sober, even in the face of unrelenting attacks and selective prosecution. In trying to break Hunter, they’ve tried to break me – and there’s no reason to believe it will stop here. Enough is enough.

For my entire career I have followed a simple principle: just tell the American people the truth. They’ll be fair-minded. Here’s the truth: I believe in the justice system, but as I have wrestled with this, I also believe raw politics has infected this process and it led to a miscarriage of justice – and once I made this decision this weekend, there was no sense in delaying it further. I hope Americans will understand why a father and a President would come to this decision.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing.../12/01/statement-from-president-joe-biden-11/

Those words would carry a lot more weight if the pardon were limited to the those offenses instead of being a blanket that covers all the malfeasance of their Ukraine shenanigans from 2014 through 2025. As it is, that reads like a poorly veiled excuse for CYA over the laptop contents and Ukraine influence peddling / money laundering schemes.
 
Considering how many times I've heard that line recently, it must be some kind of talking point.

Presumably a demonstration of how people would do anything for their children, but how does that excuse a crime? If a judge or prosecutor had a kid that blatantly committed a crime, and they dismissed the charges and said "hey, it's my kid", would that make it OK? Would that make it a legitimate use of power?

Funny thing, isn't it. Once a talking point like that gets started it just starts rolling like a runaway truck.
 
Well I think in Biden's case, Hunter's plea deal got taken away for political reasons. An average person probably would have walked with a fine and probation. So Biden is justifying his pardon that way. If your kid got the short end, you might too.

You sound just like the bitches on MSM, absolute gaslighting.
 
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