Biden Builds Polling Lead in Battleground States, With Strength Among White Voters

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Media polls have been wrong and often are manipulated by media owners employees, so exercise caution while interpretting such data.
Biden does not seem to be doing as well among Black voters as Clinton and Obama did and is struggling with Hispanic voters also, but his growing strength among White voters seems to be more than compensating for that going by MSM polling data.
IF this is confirmed that 'White voters' are starting to ditch MAGA for Biden, this might leave Republicans in Trump's hometown NYC and rest of America scratching their heads.


Biden Builds Polling Lead in Battleground States, With Strength Among White Voters

A nine-point advantage across six key states, including leads of at least six points in each of them.

By Nate Cohn
June 25, 2020

NYT Upshot/Siena College poll

Joe Biden holds a strong lead among registered voters in six battleground states carried by Donald Trump in 2016.

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[TR="class: g-row"]
[TH="class: g-state"][/TH]
[TH="class: g-val g-2016 election-result"]2016 Result[/TH]
[TH="class: g-val g-2020 poll-result"]NYT/Siena
June 2020[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR="class: g-row"]
[TD="class: g-state"] Michigan (n=610)[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2016 election-result rep"] <1 Trump[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2020 poll-result dem"] +11 Biden 47-36[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: g-row"]
[TD="class: g-state"] Wisconsin (655)[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2016 election-result rep"] <1 Trump[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2020 poll-result dem"] +11 Biden 49-38[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: g-row"]
[TD="class: g-state"] Pennsylvania (651)[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2016 election-result rep"] <1 Trump[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2020 poll-result dem"] +10 Biden 50-40[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: g-row"]
[TD="class: g-state"] Florida (651)[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2016 election-result rep"] +1 Trump[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2020 poll-result dem"] +6 Biden 47-41[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: g-row"]
[TD="class: g-state"] Arizona (650)[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2016 election-result rep"] +4 Trump[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2020 poll-result dem"] +7 Biden 48-41[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: g-row"]
[TD="class: g-state"] North Carolina (653)[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2016 election-result rep"] +4 Trump[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2020 poll-result dem"] +9 Biden 49-40[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Based on a New York Times/Siena College poll of 3,870 registered voters from June 8 to June 18.

President Trump has lost significant ground in the six battleground states that clinched his Electoral College victory in 2016, according to New York Times/Siena College surveys, with Joseph R. Biden Jr. opening double-digit leads in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/25/upshot/poll-2020-biden-battlegrounds.html






Update 1:

IF this polling data is not fakenews, are news like this playing any role in such incredible polling results?

DACA, LGBTQ decisions leave some conservatives with Supreme Court buyers' remorse
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/da...nservatives-with-supreme-court-buyers-remorse

July 1, 2020
Trump-appointed federal judge upholds legal challenge to administration asylum rule
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-upholds-legal-challenge-to-trump-administration-asylum-rule

On a potentially realted note, was Prez Trump bit too optimistic about boost he had expected from Hispanic voters gain especially if many might not be of voting age by 2020 elections?

Democrats are saying that DACA is not worth it and don’t want to include in talks. Many Hispanics will be coming over to the Republican side, watch!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 13, 2019
​

06-25-20

For the first time, the majority of people under 16 in America are nonwhite and Hispanic

By Connie Lin
The numbers are in.

The Census Bureau has released its latest population estimates, which include data from 2019. And on the whole, it shows an aging white America and an increasingly diverse United States.
Here are some general insights:

• Our nation is getting bigger: The total population hovered around 329 million in 2019, up from around 308 million in 2010.
• Baby boomers are no longer babies: The 65-and-older population swelled by nearly 35% between 2010 and 2019, driven by the aging of baby boomers born between 1946 and 1964. In part due to this, the median age of Americans rose from 37.2 years to 38.4 years. (The median age for non-Hispanic whites, in 2019, was 43.7 years, compared to 29.8 for Hispanics, 35 for Asians, and 32.3 for Black Americans.)
• The U.S. is becoming more racially diverse: The U.S. population was about 60% non-Hispanic white in 2019, a record low for the country, and experts predict non-Hispanic whites will be a minority in 25 years. Meanwhile, Hispanic and Asian populations grew by 20% and 30%, respectively, from 2010 to 2019, and the Black population grew by 12%. While the white population grew by 4.3% compared to 2010, the number of non-Hispanic whites fell by more than half a million people from 2016 to 2019.
• The face of America is changing fast: In 2019, for the first time ever, nonwhites and Hispanics were the majority for people under the age of 16, signaling a demographic shift that experts expect will continue over the coming decades.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90521390...e-and-hispanic





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[dannno]

First issue with the polls: They only poll 25% Republicans, and they stack their Independent lists with leftists.

Second issue with the polls: In a recent, un-scientific twitter poll, Trump supporters said 2:1 that they would not tell a random person over the phone who has their name, address and phone number that they support Trump. This is due to the extreme psychotic behavior of leftists, including violence as well as trying to ruin people's lives by harassing the company they work for, their customers or employees, etc, etc..

So I'm really not sure why you would be able to get accurate polling.

 

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So I'm really not sure why you would be able to get accurate polling.

With corporate/controlled media, polls would always be suspect, so you have a valid point.
Perhaps with some guesswork and by looking at other indicators like following, one might be able to form somewhat realistic view of things.

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[r3volution 3.0]

If Biden just sat back and did nothing, said nothing, he'd probably win in a landslide, like Texas turning blue scale landslide, because Trump is that unpopular and the country is that FUBAR (and the incumbent, rightly or wrongly, largely rightly in this case, gets blamed for whatever's happening). The risk for Biden is that he broadcasts his evident senility in the debates. I'm amazed that they agreed to three.

 

[AngryCanadian]

If Biden just sat back and did nothing, said nothing, he'd probably win in a landslide, like Texas turning blue scale landslide, because Trump is that unpopular and the country is that FUBAR (and the incumbent, rightly or wrongly, largely rightly in this case, gets blamed for whatever's happening). The risk for Biden is that he broadcasts his evident senility in the debates. I'm amazed that they agreed to three.

Unless of course they would rig the debates to make Trump look bad as usual this could happen and it could happen that these debates where these mods would be fair to Biden more then Trump but the questions on Ukraine, Syria should come up no doubt. Lets be thankful Trump had the urges not to start a military intervention dispute having a no zone there.

 

[AngryCanadian]

First issue with the polls: They only poll 25% Republicans, and they stack their Independent lists with leftists.

Second issue with the polls: In a recent, un-scientific twitter poll, Trump supporters said 2:1 that they would not tell a random person over the phone who has their name, address and phone number that they support Trump. This is due to the extreme psychotic behavior of leftists, including violence as well as trying to ruin people's lives by harassing the company they work for, their customers or employees, etc, etc..

So I'm really not sure why you would be able to get accurate polling.

Its almost like they were forced into going for Biden for the polls?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Unless of course they would rig the debates to make Trump look bad as usual this could happen and it could happen that these debates where these mods would be fair to Biden more then Trump but the questions on Ukraine, Syria should come up no doubt. Lets be thankful Trump had the urges not to start a military intervention dispute having a no zone there.

Trump doesn't have to debate either, mind you.

If the networks won't agree to whatever terms he wants to make it "fair," he can choose not to participate.

This isn't something that the media is imposing on Trump, or Biden; they have all the leverage.

Trump wants to do it because he's behind and he's good at one-liners; Biden I guess doesn't want to be accused of cowardice.

Personally, I hope they both decide it's against their interests to "debate" so that we don't have to watch that garbage.

Air a documentary about Amazonian tree frogs, the history of the fork; almost anything else would be more enlightening.

 

[DamianTV]

First issue with the polls: They only poll 25% Republicans, and they stack their Independent lists with leftists.

Second issue with the polls: In a recent, un-scientific twitter poll, Trump supporters said 2:1 that they would not tell a random person over the phone who has their name, address and phone number that they support Trump. This is due to the extreme psychotic behavior of leftists, including violence as well as trying to ruin people's lives by harassing the company they work for, their customers or employees, etc, etc..

So I'm really not sure why you would be able to get accurate polling.

I would not be at all surprised if we found out that many of the so-called registered Republicans were not at all, and only there to interfere with the Republican polling / voting process.

 

[oyarde]

Media polls have been wrong and often are manipulated by media owners employees, so exercise caution while interpretting such data.
Biden does not seem to be doing as well among Black voters as Clinton and Obama did and is struggling with Hispanic voters also, but his growing strength among White voters seems to be more than compensating for that going by MSM polling data.
IF this is confirmed that 'White voters' are starting to ditch MAGA for Biden, this might leave Republicans in Trump's hometown NYC and rest of America scratching their heads.


Biden Builds Polling Lead in Battleground States, With Strength Among White Voters

A nine-point advantage across six key states, including leads of at least six points in each of them.

By Nate Cohn
June 25, 2020

NYT Upshot/Siena College poll

Joe Biden holds a strong lead among registered voters in six battleground states carried by Donald Trump in 2016.

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[TR="class: g-row"]
[TH="class: g-state"][/TH]
[TH="class: g-val g-2016 election-result"]2016 Result[/TH]
[TH="class: g-val g-2020 poll-result"]NYT/Siena
June 2020[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR="class: g-row"]
[TD="class: g-state"] Michigan (n=610)[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2016 election-result rep"] <1 Trump[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2020 poll-result dem"] +11 Biden 47-36[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: g-row"]
[TD="class: g-state"] Wisconsin (655)[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2016 election-result rep"] <1 Trump[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2020 poll-result dem"] +11 Biden 49-38[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: g-row"]
[TD="class: g-state"] Pennsylvania (651)[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2016 election-result rep"] <1 Trump[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2020 poll-result dem"] +10 Biden 50-40[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: g-row"]
[TD="class: g-state"] Florida (651)[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2016 election-result rep"] +1 Trump[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2020 poll-result dem"] +6 Biden 47-41[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: g-row"]
[TD="class: g-state"] Arizona (650)[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2016 election-result rep"] +4 Trump[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2020 poll-result dem"] +7 Biden 48-41[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: g-row"]
[TD="class: g-state"] North Carolina (653)[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2016 election-result rep"] +4 Trump[/TD]
[TD="class: g-val g-2020 poll-result dem"] +9 Biden 49-40[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Based on a New York Times/Siena College poll of 3,870 registered voters from June 8 to June 18.

President Trump has lost significant ground in the six battleground states that clinched his Electoral College victory in 2016, according to New York Times/Siena College surveys, with Joseph R. Biden Jr. opening double-digit leads in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/25/upshot/poll-2020-biden-battlegrounds.html






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Look at the percentage of margin in Florida for the last 23 years of presidential elections . That alone will show you this data is meaningless, corrupt and meant to mislead .

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Poll might as well just be titled "Majority of Democrats will vote for Biden."

 

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Look at the percentage of margin in Florida for the last 23 years of presidential elections . That alone will show you this data is meaningless, corrupt and meant to mislead .

Very much open to the possibility that polling data is being manipulated. More telling signs could be 'follow the mony' related, if donors and betting crowd and NC GOP Primary voters have been misled, then other voters could get misled too if things stayed on current track.

H/T Rev 3:

Trump's stock has totally collapsed in the betting markets (alas, the Fed doesn't support this one).

Election Betting: After Trump Tulsa Rally, Biden’s Presidental Odds Surge

 

[Occam's Banana]

Trump wants to do it because he's behind and he's good at one-liners; Biden I guess doesn't want to be accused of cowardice.

Personally, I hope they both decide it's against their interests to "debate" so that we don't have to watch that garbage.

Well, to be fair, we don't have to watch it any more than they have to do it ...

Air a documentary about Amazonian tree frogs, the history of the fork; almost anything else would be more enlightening.

Agreed. I recommend that they just air a bunch of The History Guy's videos instead ... (AFAIK he hasn't done anything involving Amazonian tree frogs ... at least, not yet ...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om7YKQelbGs

 

[AngryCanadian]

Very much open to the possibility that polling data is being manipulated. More telling signs could be 'follow the mony' related, if donors and betting crowd and NC GOP Primary voters have been misled, then other voters could get misled too if things stayed on current track.

H/T Rev 3:



Election Betting: After Trump Tulsa Rally, Biden’s Presidental Odds Surge

Election betting on Biden is like betting to win 100 Million in a sporting event.

 

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Political cartoons are getting out of control.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Look at the percentage of margin in Florida for the last 23 years of presidential elections . That alone will show you this data is meaningless, corrupt and meant to mislead .

I remember similar polling for Hillary are pollsters calling out to the same people as they did for Hillary?

 

[AngryCanadian]

First issue with the polls: They only poll 25% Republicans, and they stack their Independent lists with leftists.

Second issue with the polls: In a recent, un-scientific twitter poll, Trump supporters said 2:1 that they would not tell a random person over the phone who has their name, address and phone number that they support Trump. This is due to the extreme psychotic behavior of leftists, including violence as well as trying to ruin people's lives by harassing the company they work for, their customers or employees, etc, etc..

So I'm really not sure why you would be able to get accurate polling.

I pretty much remember hearing the same thing in 2016 about Hillary polling as well. This is another reason why Biden is so high in the polls. If it is to be believed it anyway.

 

[Sammy]

Too bad that I don't believe in polls.

 

[RonZeplin]

Survey sez.... President Donnell is a loser.

Orange Helicopter Socialist BAD

 

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