Biblical defense of slavery

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Bible verses on slavery.
Exodus 21:2-11 describes how Hebrews should enslave Hebrews according to God. Foreigners could be bought too in Leviticus 25:44-46. Exodus 21:20-21 condones the beating of slaves. Exodus 21:4 says that the kids and wife are still the property are still the masters property if the man is set free. In Luke 12:47-48 Jesus supports masters beating slaves. In Ephesians 6:5-9, 1 Timothy 6:1-2 and Colossians 4:1 slaves are taught to be obedient and masters fair to their slaves.

I think the bible clearly supports slavery and as a christian I therefore do not see slavery as a wrong thing, I support it. I fully believe that the belief that slavery is immoral is unbiblical and want to convince other christians to believe the same.

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Bible verses on slavery.
I fully believe that the belief that slavery is immoral is unbiblical and want to convince other christians to believe the same.

Slavery (involuntary servitude) is not unbiblical, but it is immoral. This is why it is a problem to try to artificially base your morality on a collection of ancient books instead of empathy and rational thought.

Why do you feel it is important to convince other Christians to believe the same?
 
There are many evils addressed in the bible.
It is not always endorsement but rather acceptance of it's existence.
 
Slavery (involuntary servitude) is not unbiblical, but it is immoral. This is why it is a problem to try to artificially base your morality on a collection of ancient books instead of empathy and rational thought.
Why do you think slavery is immoral?

Why do you feel it is important to convince other Christians to believe the same?
Because the belief that Gods word is what determines what is right and wrong instead of human reasoning is something I want people that call themselves Christians to believe in.
 
Why do you think slavery is immoral?

Because it violates the Golden Rule which is morality 101.

Because the belief that Gods word is what determines what is right and wrong instead of human reasoning is something I want people that call themselves Christians to believe in.

Fair enough.
 
There are many evils addressed in the bible.
It is not always endorsement but rather acceptance of it's existence.
Telling slaves to be obedient and Jesus supporting flogging disobedient slaves clearly points to slavery being a holy institution. Bad slaves should be whipped like they deserve!
 
This assumes a master can't love his slave.

If you don't want to be in servitude (hence, "involuntary"), then it doesn't matter. No one has the right to force you to serve them regardless of whether they love you or not. In fact, the two are incompatible. If someone loves you, then it necessarily follows that they will not force you to serve them against your will.
 
Telling slaves to be obedient and Jesus supporting flogging disobedient slaves clearly points to slavery being a holy institution. Bad slaves should be whipped like they deserve!
Or Jesus was trying to explain new concepts using language his audience would understand. It's a rhetorical technique people still use toady.
 
If you don't want to be in servitude (hence, "involuntary"), then it doesn't matter. No one has the right to force you to serve them regardless of whether they love you or not. In fact, the two are incompatible. If someone loves you, then it necessarily follows that they will not force you to serve them against your will.
Loving someone and forcing that person to work can go hand in hand.
 
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Or Jesus was trying to explain new concepts using language his audience would understand. It's a rhetorical technique people still use toady.
Exodus 21:20-21 allows beating slaves and in the manner Jesus spoke of a slave being a whipped he clearly was a fan of it.
 
Question: "Does the Bible condone slavery?"

Answer: There is a tendency to look at slavery as something of the past. But it is estimated that there are today over 27 million people in the world who are subject to slavery: forced labor, sex trade, inheritable property, etc. As those who have been redeemed from the slavery of sin, followers of Jesus Christ should be the foremost champions of ending human slavery in the world today. The question arises, though, why does the Bible not speak out strongly against slavery? Why does the Bible, in fact, seem to support the practice of human slavery?

The Bible does not specifically condemn the practice of slavery. It gives instructions on how slaves should be treated (Deuteronomy 15:12-15; Ephesians 6:9; Colossians 4:1), but does not outlaw slavery altogether. Many see this as the Bible condoning all forms of slavery. What many fail to understand is that slavery in biblical times was very different from the slavery that was practiced in the past few centuries in many parts of the world. The slavery in the Bible was not based exclusively on race. People were not enslaved because of their nationality or the color of their skin. In Bible times, slavery was based more on economics; it was a matter of social status. People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their families. In New Testament times, sometimes doctors, lawyers, and even politicians were slaves of someone else. Some people actually chose to be slaves so as to have all their needs provided for by their masters.

The slavery of the past few centuries was often based exclusively on skin color. In the United States, many black people were considered slaves because of their nationality; many slave owners truly believed black people to be inferior human beings. The Bible condemns race-based slavery in that it teaches that all men are created by God and made in His image (Genesis 1:27). At the same time, the Old Testament did allow for economic-based slavery and regulated it. The key issue is that the slavery the Bible allowed for in no way resembled the racial slavery that plagued our world in the past few centuries.

In addition, both the Old and New Testaments condemn the practice of “man-stealing,” which is what happened in Africa in the 19th century. Africans were rounded up by slave-hunters, who sold them to slave-traders, who brought them to the New World to work on plantations and farms. This practice is abhorrent to God. In fact, the penalty for such a crime in the Mosaic Law was death: “Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death” (Exodus 21:16). Similarly, in the New Testament, slave-traders are listed among those who are “ungodly and sinful” and are in the same category as those who kill their fathers or mothers, murderers, adulterers and perverts, and liars and perjurers (1 Timothy 1:8–10).

Another crucial point is that the purpose of the Bible is to point the way to salvation, not to reform society. The Bible often approaches issues from the inside out. If a person experiences the love, mercy, and grace of God by receiving His salvation, God will reform his soul, changing the way he thinks and acts. A person who has experienced God’s gift of salvation and freedom from the slavery of sin, as God reforms his soul, will realize that enslaving another human being is wrong. He will see, with Paul, that a slave can be “a brother in the Lord” (Philemon 1:16). A person who has truly experienced God’s grace will in turn be gracious towards others. That would be the Bible’s prescription for ending slavery.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-slavery.html#ixzz39Cb43BwD
 
If God was against slavery he would say it, nowhere in the bible does God disapprove of slavery. Both in OT and NT slavery is cleary accepted and not regarded as wrong.
 
If God was against slavery he would say it, nowhere in the bible does God disapprove of slavery. Both in OT and NT slavery is cleary accepted and not regarded as wrong.

"Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death” (Exodus 21:16).

1 Timothy 1: 8-10

"We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. 9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine."
 
Or Jesus was trying to explain new concepts using language his audience would understand. It's a rhetorical technique people still use toady.

It's kind of interesting though, the Bible says if you own slaves, you should treat them justly and fairly (Colossians 4:1). It fails to mention that the most fair and just thing you can do for a slave is to stop making them work for you on your terms against their will.
 
If God was against slavery he would say it, nowhere in the bible does God disapprove of slavery. Both in OT and NT slavery is cleary accepted and not regarded as wrong.

God says we are to love our neighbors as ourselves. Do you want someone to make you a slave?
 
It's kind of interesting though, the Bible says if you own slaves, you should treat them justly and fairly (Colossians 4:1). It fails to mention that the most fair and just thing you can do for a slave is to stop making them work for you on your terms against their will.

Who says that they're working against their will? As the article I posted states, many people during Biblical times chose to voluntarily be slaves.
 
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