Bernie Sanders leads in CA-NH and NV in new polls

[Anti Federalist]

Considering that his only real competition in 2016 was Hillary "superpredator" and "I keep hot sauce in my purse to pander to blacks" Clinton, why is that at all surprising? Do you honestly think that Michelle Obama couldn't have snatched the crown from both Bernie and Hillary if she had jumped in? Or Joe Biden?

Also consider this. Do you know what both Occupy Wall Street on the left and the early Tea Party movement on the right had in common? Understandable anger towards the TARP bailout and the "too big to fail" banks. People in general know they're being screwed. They just think it's the other guy's party doing it. Such people are easily manipulated to their own pet issues.

LOL - This is like arguing with Mrs. AF on this issue, she's in your corner on this.

She was thinking of getting the owners of the restaurant and farm to table market she works for a Christmas gifts through a chip-in with the employees.

They treat them pretty well and she figured it would be a nice gesture.

Well, you'd think she had lobsters crawling out of her ears:

"Why would you do that, they're rich, they have everything they need, that's just brown nosing". (And AFAIK, all woemen and all democrats)

That's human nature...to be envious and covetous of what the other guy has (God himself warned us of this sin), figuring the only way they got it is by somehow screwing you out of "your fair share".

That's what fuels collectivist, communist, crackpot, failed economic schemes over and over and over and over again.

That's what's fueling Bernie right now...not principled if misdirected anger at long forgotten government policy decisions...only us Cassandras worry about that.

 

[TheTexan]

Considering that his only real competition in 2016 was Hillary "superpredator" and "I keep hot sauce in my purse to pander to blacks" Clinton, why is that at all surprising? Do you honestly think that Michelle Obama couldn't have snatched the crown from both Bernie and Hillary if she had jumped in? Or Joe Biden?

Also consider this. Do you know what both Occupy Wall Street on the left and the early Tea Party movement on the right had in common? Understandable anger towards the TARP bailout and the "too big to fail" banks. People in general know they're being screwed. They just think it's the other guy's party doing it. Such people are easily manipulated to their own pet issues.

Good point. I'm sure people would rally behind a pro-liberty, anti-interventionist candidate, if only they had the chance

 

[jmdrake]

LOL - This is like arguing with Mrs. AF on this issue, she's in your corner on this.

She was thinking of getting the owners of the restaurant and farm to table market she works for a Christmas gifts through a chip-in with the employees.

They treat them pretty well and she figured it would be a nice gesture.

Well, you'd think she had lobsters crawling out of her ears:

"Why would you do that, they're rich, they have everything they need, that's just brown nosing". (And AFAIK, all woemen and all democrats)

That's human nature...to be envious and covetous of what the other guy has (God himself warned us of this sin), figuring the only way they got it is by somehow screwing you out of "your fair share".

That's what fuels collectivist, communist, crackpot, failed economic schemes over and over and over and over again.

That's what's fueling Bernie right now...not principled if misdirected anger at long forgotten government policy decisions...only us Cassandras worry about that.

Mrs. AF sounds like a great woman!

Okay. I don't think I communicated as effectively as I could. Let me try again. What do Andrew Yang, Donald Trump, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders all have in common? Answer? They all love to hate on Jeff Bezos of Amazon. Me personally? I'm trying to make money off Jeff Bezos and Amazon. (I've sold a few things but I don't keep my store up like I should). So the billionaire leader of the "truth, justice, anti-deep state" party is stoking the same billionaire envy that the socialist millionaire democrats are stoking. Oh...but it's because Bezos is "not paying taxes." Okay. But neither does Trump. Trump is giving away "free money" to military contractors. The millionaire socialists want to spend money on healthcare and community gardens and organic grocery stores in the projects. Actually the community garden/organic grocery store in the projects isn't a bad idea if done right. That could be a way to introduced capitalism in the hood. It's a better use of taxpayer money than drone bombing Houthi rebels in Yemen. But...I'm supposed to be okay with the ridiculous increase in military spending because......why is that again? And yes, I know you aren't backing Trump on that. I'm just saying we're being given a choice that's no choice. Carry on!

 

[oyarde]

Your reply implies that you don't believe these results. If not, then who do you think is leading in CA, NH, and NV?

I have no doubt that bernie leads NH for dem primary , that in itself makes Nev and Cal seem plausible .

 

[Swordsmyth]

But you have "drunk monkey Trump" to thank for that. Here's how. Just a few months ago Joe Biden was kicking Bernie Sanders a$$. It's the Trump takedown of Joe "Burisma" Biden that has killed him in the polls. Come on. Isn't that obvious to everyone? Elizabeth Warren is an embarrassment as a candidate, having been shut down by a heckler from a friendly crowd and having to be rescued by a supporter.



And Pete Bootyjudge (sp?), while being a total neolib war monger and supported by the establishment, can get enough black support because he's gay. When I talk to my black democrat friends about if they're going to vote for him if he somehow gets the nomination they just give me this "Why in the hell are you asking me that question" look. It's a thought they don't even want to contemplate. Yeah...blacks were willing to give Obama a pass on all the pro LGBT things he did, while not actually doing anything directly for black people (Trump has actually done more....but don't tell anyone that), but many are not ready to actually vote for an openly gay man for president.

CNN is in denial about this by the way and are coming up with every other excuse for mayor Pete's failure to connect.



Van Jones address the elephant in the room...but everybody else is like "Maybe he need to go to Morehouse and take some pictures with black people."

So...Bernie is winning by default.

Grabage.

The left turned into raging communists long ago and Trump is winning and bringing many people away from communism and the left.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Mrs. AF sounds like a great woman!

Okay. I don't think I communicated as effectively as I could. Let me try again. What do Andrew Yang, Donald Trump, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders all have in common? Answer? They all love to hate on Jeff Bezos of Amazon. Me personally? I'm trying to make money off Jeff Bezos and Amazon. (I've sold a few things but I don't keep my store up like I should). So the billionaire leader of the "truth, justice, anti-deep state" party is stoking the same billionaire envy that the socialist millionaire democrats are stoking. Oh...but it's because Bezos is "not paying taxes." Okay. But neither does Trump. Trump is giving away "free money" to military contractors. The millionaire socialists want to spend money on healthcare and community gardens and organic grocery stores in the projects. Actually the community garden/organic grocery store in the projects isn't a bad idea if done right. That could be a way to introduced capitalism in the hood. It's a better use of taxpayer money than drone bombing Houthi rebels in Yemen. But...I'm supposed to be okay with the ridiculous increase in military spending because......why is that again? And yes, I know you aren't backing Trump on that. I'm just saying we're being given a choice that's no choice. Carry on!

Bezos is an evil man in league with the deepstate to impose tyranny on America, some people may oppose him for the wrong reasons but nobody should support him and Trump is not at all the same as the others you mention.

 

[jmdrake]

Grabage.

The left turned into raging communists long ago and Trump is winning and bringing many people away from communism and the left.

The point that I was making is that Bernie Sanders is leading right now because Trump took down Joe Biden. Anyone with half a a brain knows that fact is not "garbage."

 

[jmdrake]

Bezos is an evil man in league with the deepstate to impose tyranny on America, some people may oppose him for the wrong reasons but nobody should support him and Trump is not at all the same as the others you mention.

Trump complained because he doesn't pay taxes.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Trump complained because he doesn't pay taxes.

That doesn't make him the same as the others.
And he has criticized him for many other things.
Also it isn't right to let the ultra rich have loopholes that the rest of us don't get.

 

[jmdrake]

That doesn't make him the same as the others.

I didn't say it did. Every single person on planet earth is different. I pointed out that Trump gave the same "I'm jealous of rich people not paying their fair share" argument that the socialists you claim to hate so much also make.

Also it isn't right to let the ultra rich have loopholes that the rest of us don't get.

Then tell Trump to release his tax returns.



I'm not mad at Trump or Bezos for not paying taxes. I admire both men for finding the loopholes. I want to be like them.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I didn't say it did. Every single person on planet earth is different. I pointed out that Trump gave the same "I'm jealous of rich people not paying their fair share" argument that the socialists you claim to hate so much also make.



Then tell Trump to release his tax returns.



I'm not mad at Trump or Bezos for not paying taxes. I admire both men for finding the loopholes. I want to be like them.

Trump doesn't have to release his tax returns unless he wants to but if he also doesn't pay taxes or pays very little then he is the one calling to reform the system.
I don't blame anyone for taking any advantage they can get under the current system but I do blame those who created the system and those who fight against its reform.

 

[jmdrake]

Trump doesn't have to release his tax returns unless he wants to but if he also doesn't pay taxes or pays very little then he is the one calling to reform the system.

So Trump wants a system where he pays more taxes? Source? I know Warren Buffet is in the "Let's tax the rich" category. And Buffet is a leftist.

I don't blame anyone for taking any advantage they can get under the current system but I do blame those who created the system and those who fight against its reform.

Bezos didn't create the system either.

 

[Anti Globalist]

Despite how well Bernie is doing in the polls I still don't see him becoming the nominee. I'm still thinking its gonna come down to Biden and Warren.

 

[Swordsmyth]

So Trump wants a system where he pays more taxes? Source? I know Warren Buffet is in the "Let's tax the rich" category. And Buffet is a socialist.

Trump is in the "everybody should play by the same rules camp" and has proposed tax reforms to make things more that way.

Bezos didn't create the system either.

But he fights to keep it and maybe make it worse.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Despite how well Bernie is doing in the polls I still don't see him becoming the nominee. I'm still thinking its gonna come down to Biden and Warren.

Hitlery will take the nomination at the convention.

 

[jmdrake]

Despite how well Bernie is doing in the polls I still don't see him becoming the nominee. I'm still thinking its gonna come down to Biden and Warren.

Biden won't survive the senate impeachment trial of Trump. And Elizabeth Warren is a deer in the headlights. She supports the same things as Bernie but without any of the charisma. Bootyjudge has a better chance than her.

 

[jmdrake]

Trump is in the "everybody should play by the same rules camp" and has proposed tax reforms to make things more that way.

You have REALLY bought the Trump kool-aid. Trump already passed tax reform. The smart rich still don't pay. And frankly it has nothing to do with how rich you are and everything to do with how you make your money. You should read Rich Dad / Poor Dad Case Flow Quadrant sometime.

But he fights to keep it and maybe make it worse.

You sound just like a Bernie Sanders supporter.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You have REALLY bought the Trump kool-aid. Trump already passed tax reform. The smart rich still don't pay. And frankly it has nothing to do with how rich you are and everything to do with how you make your money. You should read Rich Dad / Poor Dad Case Flow Quadrant sometime.

Trump got passed what he could get passed through Congress but he has proposed more.
And you entirely miss the point, some people shouldn't get to play by different rules because they make their money in a different way than other people.

You sound just like a Bernie Sanders supporter.

LOL

I sound like communists who want to "soak the rich" because I say everybody should play by the same rules?
Please explain how making everyone play by the same rules is the same as making the rich pay more than everyone else.

 

[jmdrake]

Trump got passed what he could get passed through Congress but he has proposed more.
And you entirely miss the point, some people shouldn't get to play by different rules because they make their money in a different way than other people.



LOL

I sound like communists who want to "soak the rich" because I say everybody should play by the same rules?
Please explain how making everyone play by the same rules is the same as making the rich pay more than everyone else.

Everybody can play by the same rules. Read Rich Dad Poor Dad Cash Flow Quadrant. Whether or not you pay taxes has nothing to do with how rich you are and everything to do with how you earn your money.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Everybody can play by the same rules. Read Rich Dad Poor Dad Cash Flow Quadrant. Whether or not you pay taxes has nothing to do with how rich you are and everything to do with how you earn your money.

Not everyone can earn their money in the same ways.
Some people are smarter than others and some people have better opportunities than others.

If we are going to have an income tax then EVERYONE should pay exactly the same rate no matter how they make their money.
Government should not be picking winners and losers and distorting the economy.