Benton: 'I've never been more proud of a boss than I am of Senator McConnell right now.'

[phill4paul]

Some of you are unbelievable. McConnell and Benton are right, even if you don't like them.

The Democrats got their tax increase on the wealthiest 1%, many of whom were on record as happy to pay.

Now the Democrats have to deal with spending cuts, since the tax increase they got will not even put a dent in the deficit.

Everything will work out in the end, you all need to chill out.

So, you are saying Ron Paul is wrong in his assertion of this 'deal?' Interesting.

 

[erowe1]

Some of you are unbelievable. McConnell and Benton are right, even if you don't like them.

The Democrats got their tax increase on the wealthiest 1%, many of whom were on record as happy to pay.

Now the Democrats have to deal with spending cuts, since the tax increase they got will not even put a dent in the deficit.

Everything will work out in the end, you all need to chill out.

Uh no. If they had not made this deal there would have been automatic sizable spending cuts, including to the Department of War. Now there won't be.

 

[Peace Piper]

Jessie Benton hard at work at his new "job"
"How come no one returns my calls anymore?"​

 

[69360]

Uh no. If they had not made this deal there would have been automatic sizable spending cuts, including to the Department of War. Now there won't be.

Along with tax increases on the middle and upper middle class. You conviently didn't mention that.

Now the Democrats get their tax on the rich, who mostly don't mind paying, but average people's taxes don't go up.

When taxing the rich doesn't work, and it won't, the Democrats own it and will be forced to look at spending cuts.

 

[sailingaway]

please quit attributing all acts of ex employees to 'Ron Paul Inc'. I see Ron no where in this.

 

[sailingaway]

Along with tax increases on the middle and upper middle class. You conviently didn't mention that.

Yeah. If the taxes had been alone, I think Ron would have voted for it. He has never voted for unconstitutional spending though, so that would have made it difficult

 

[phill4paul]

Along with tax increases on the middle and upper middle class. You conviently didn't mention that.

"The last minute “deal” was the worst of both worlds: higher taxes on nearly all Americans now and a promise to revisit these modest reductions in spending growth two months down the road. We were here before, when in 2011 Republicans demanded these automatic modest decreases in government growth down the road in exchange for a massive increase in the debt ceiling. As the time drew closer, both parties clamored to avoid even these modest moves." Ron Paul.

Did Ron get it wrong?

 

[Brett85]

Some of you are unbelievable. McConnell and Benton are right, even if you don't like them.

The Democrats got their tax increase on the wealthiest 1%, many of whom were on record as happy to pay.

Now the Democrats have to deal with spending cuts, since the tax increase they got will not even put a dent in the deficit.

Everything will work out in the end, you all need to chill out.

It looks like you and I are the only people on these forums who have that position. This was obviously a bad bill, but to vote against it still would've been exactly the same as voting for a massive income tax increase on every single American.

 

[sailingaway]

"The last minute “deal” was the worst of both worlds: higher taxes on nearly all Americans now and a promise to revisit these modest reductions in spending growth two months down the road. We were here before, when in 2011 Republicans demanded these automatic modest decreases in government growth down the road in exchange for a massive increase in the debt ceiling. As the time drew closer, both parties clamored to avoid even these modest moves." Ron Paul.

Did Ron get it wrong?

I think Ron edited, didn't write that piece from what it said about 'the deal' letting taxes go up. It is true it did,by not STOPPING MORE automatically raising taxes. they go up on 70% because the payroll tax holiday expires. The tax piece was how much of the Bush tax cuts would NOT automatically expire. With no deal all of the cuts would have expired. Faced with a 'cleaner' bill of that sort previously, Ron voted for it saying he wants as few taxes as possible. He would rather exptend the Bush tax cuts for all, but would rather cut for some than cut for none if they will automatically go up otherwise. But there was also a lot of unconstitutional spending in the bill. On reflection, I can't see him being able to vote for that spending.

 

[Brett85]

"The last minute “deal” was the worst of both worlds: higher taxes on nearly all Americans now and a promise to revisit these modest reductions in spending growth two months down the road. We were here before, when in 2011 Republicans demanded these automatic modest decreases in government growth down the road in exchange for a massive increase in the debt ceiling. As the time drew closer, both parties clamored to avoid even these modest moves." Ron Paul.

Did Ron get it wrong?

What Ron got wrong there is when he made it sound like this deal actually raised taxes. It didn't. Tax rates for every single American went up automatically on December 31st when all of the tax cuts expired. This bill simply re-instated the income tax cuts for 99% of Americans, making it technically a tax cut.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-norquist-vote-for-deal-is-vote-to-cut-taxes/

 

[sailingaway]

What Ron got wrong there is when he made it sound like this deal actually raised taxes. It didn't. Tax rates for every single American went up automatically on December 31st when all of the tax cuts expired. This bill simply re-instated the income tax cuts for 99% of Americans, making it technically a tax cut.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-norquist-vote-for-deal-is-vote-to-cut-taxes/

HIS piece didn't actually SAY it raised taxes, it said the rising taxes were a consequence of the 'deal' -- the deal being not to cut more, but other things definitely said incorrectly that the bill itself raised them.

 

[phill4paul]

What Ron got wrong there is when he made it sound like this deal actually raised taxes. It didn't. Tax rates for every single American went up automatically on December 31st when all of the tax cuts expired. This bill simply re-instated the income tax cuts for 99% of Americans, making it technically a tax cut.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-norquist-vote-for-deal-is-vote-to-cut-taxes/

Yeah, I'll definitely look to Grover Norquist for economic wisdom over that of Ron Paul.

 

[Brett85]

Yeah, I'll definitely look to Grover Norquist for economic wisdom over that of Ron Paul.

Well, it's just factually incorrect to say that this bill raised taxes. Maybe that isn't what Ron meant, but those who are actually claiming that this bill raised taxes are factually incorrect. If you're opposed to this bill because of the spending increases, that's very understandable. However, people should be honest about what the bill actually does.

 

[phill4paul]

Well, it's just factually incorrect to say that this bill raised taxes. Maybe that isn't what Ron meant, but those who are actually claiming that this bill raised taxes are factually incorrect. If you're opposed to this bill because of the spending increases, that's very understandable. However, people should be honest about what the bill actually does.

Yet, taxes were raised regardless. The Social Security payroll tax expired and so taxes ARE going up. Regardless of the bill. The Republicans and the Democrats raised taxes on everyone. And, now, have everyone haggling on how much they were saved by the bill. It's ridiculous to give any defense to this 'compromise.'

 

[Brett85]

Yet, taxes were raised regardless. The Social Security payroll tax expired and so taxes ARE going up. Regardless of the bill. The Republicans and the Democrats raised taxes on everyone.

President Bush essentially caused a tax increase on everyone when he passed tax cuts that were only temporary.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Some of you are unbelievable. McConnell and Benton are right, even if you don't like them.

The Democrats got their tax increase on the wealthiest 1%, many of whom were on record as happy to pay.

Now the Democrats have to deal with spending cuts, since the tax increase they got will not even put a dent in the deficit.

Everything will work out in the end, you all need to chill out.

How many times do you think we're going to fall for this?

 

[brandon]

President Bush essentially caused a tax increase on everyone when he passed tax cuts that were only temporary.

It was actually Obama who signed the SS payroll tax cut into law.

 

[Matt Collins]

We could really do without him sabotaging Rand Paul's presidential campaign and using it as a stepping stone and his next paycheck after McConnell's election.

Jesse doesn't need the money, and he hasn't sabotaged anything.

 

[Matt Collins]

^ How was that necessary again?

"I've never been more proud of Senator McConnell than I am right now."

See how easy that was? But then again, I'm not trying to shamelessly ingratiate myself to the neo-Trot establishment by indirectly slamming my former boss and grandpa-in-law.

There is a good chance he didn't write it, a copywriter did.

 

[Matt Collins]

Maybe that's why he worked for Ron...to get access to all of Ron's lists, fundraisers, etc. So he could move further up the chain with the establishment types. Ever think of it that way?

Uhh, no, good try though. He was with Ron before he worked for Mitch.