Benton: 'Dr. Paul will not seek to be nominated from the floor.'

A good a place for this as any.



On One But Paul.


This is why Ron NEEDS to be nominated from the floor so he can give his speech. There is too much at stake. He will not win, but it is imperative that all of America(and the world) hear his message in prime time. Brush fires will be lit, and the collective consciousness of the planet will be made aware of what's at stake if we continue this doomsday course we're currently traveling on. “Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”

 
Your post won't get you banned. Well, "stick with the GOP" is just a good idea. You have to understand that finger breaking or whatnot is not unheard of. We're trying to take a valuable thing away from the people who have had it for years. They aren't going to like it. But the conservatives have been part of the GOP since Taft at least. The GOP is where we belong. Yeah, we've been shit on by them since Taft. We just have to fight and keep fighting.

About Tampa, well, Ron Paul has made a statement that he doesn't want this. He's covering his ass here. Good, smart move. Now we do what we want to do. Which is probably what Ron Paul really wants, but is smart enough to say he doesn't.

The fact that Ron Paul supporters have acted like assholes almost non stop since the Summer of 07 is a good thing. Ron Paul can say for the 100th time "I don't control my supporters" and people will believe him, or should believe him, because it's true. Ron Paul doesn't tell his supporters to boo at debates, but we do anyway. People know this. As long as Ron Paul makes it clear that it's not his thing, he's off the hook. And that's what Benton just did. Rand saved his own butt (good job Rand!) by issuing the meaningless Romney endorse, and now Ron is saving his (and Rands) by saying this.
Careful about using the royal "We", sonny. Not all of us are conservative or GOP. ;)
 
Have yall considered that maybe Ron doesn't want to be nominated from the floor? I don't know either way, but I'm just saying, perhaps it's possible that Jesse is just doing what Ron wants? Something to think about seeing as Jesse works for Ron...


This is besides the fact that a nomination from the floor would not actually lead to an electoral victory.

incomprehensible matt. the whole plan was to be nominated unconventionally (no pun intended). Or am I kidding myself in thinking that the campaign actually had the goal of competing or maybe even winning the nomination process?

As unlikely as it may seem, Ron Paul, by allowing his campaign to be run the way it has been for the last few months is really reversing a ton of momentum in a way that only the campaign and Ron Paul himself can do.

I'm not really shocked or surprised, but I find it difficult that anyone would seriously consider up until this point that Ron might NOT want to be nominated from the floor. WHY would they?

Mixed signals since Iowa. Just gut wrenching.
 
Dude's a prick, always has been, always will be. Looks like a sociopath more and more everyday, and Kokesh's story sounds more and more believable.

Upon which you base your assertion that he's beating his wife.

Because he looks like it to you.

Oh that just makes you awesome.
 
Thing is, throughout this campaign and the 2008 campaign, Ron has said over and over that he can't control what his supporters do and he doesn't want to control them. He's said to have fun, he's said to spread the message, he's said to have an impact. Now at the last minute, once again BENTON, not Ron, comes out to counter all of that and attempt to shut down enthusiasm. There's no mistaking that the enthusiasm is coming back with the rallies and convention only weeks away and the lawsuit gaining steam. But Benton sure does pop up with his needle to pop the balloon right on time whenever the enthusiasm is growing leading up to big events. Sorry but I stopped listening to BENTON a long time ago. I listen to what Ron himself says. He's been a liability both campaigns and he's clearly padding his own nest in the process and trying to make a name for himself.

"Hey folks see? Im the guy that can kill an opposing populist movement! Hire ME!"
 
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Bullshit.

Everybody has been blaming Benton for passing along the official Ron Paul message which comes from Ron Paul.

Benton isn't off the reservation. Benton would be fired by now if the things he's been saying weren't what Ron Paul wanted him to say.

Ron Paul doesn't hate the Republicans as much as many here do. Ron Paul doesn't want the Republicans to hate him (and Rand).

Ron Paul doesn't want to act as if a black swan event (Romney eaten by sharks) is a certainty. Ron Paul doesn't want to say "it's over, go home now"
because often Ron Paul supporters have fragile psyches.

Remember when Santorum just dropped out? Just dropped out. Are there people who continue to criticize whoever Santorums manager was for Santorum dropping out? Are there Santorum supporters who think Santorum will win in Tampa. After all, Santorum actually won a good number of states. And we didn't win any. (Except at the delegate stage where we really did great).

I should add that I'm in Maine and I want the people I voted for at the convention to vote for Ron Paul. I want our delegates to rip shit up if we can't vote for Ron Paul. But I have no problem with Ron Paul saying "hey, that's not me setting the arena on fire, those are my crazy delegates".
How exactly does our delegates acting like bratty 12 year olds at the convention benefit the movement as a whole? We're still in the minority, so we should be on our best behavior and carry ourselves with the same restraint and dignity Ron Paul would himself.
 
This whole thing is sad. We need to be rowing together. Not beating the shit out of each other.
I'm rowing the way that actually gets results, electing Thomas Massie and Bentivolio...not the way that encourages our minority number of delegates to through temper tantrums and make our movement the laughing stock of politics and dragging the Paul brand through the mud.
 
How exactly does our delegates acting like bratty 12 year olds at the convention benefit the movement as a whole? We're still in the minority, so we should be on our best behavior and carry ourselves with the same restraint and dignity Ron Paul would himself.

So once we become the majority, THEN can we start flinging feces? :rolleyes:
 
Does anyone else remember Ron saying at the debates, "I don't want to run the economy. I don't want to run your life"?

He's a libertarian. It's his style, it's his essence. But he's also an experienced politician who has won many elections. Why the heck would he come out telling the whole political-media universe that he's planning to storm the convention? I don't think that would go over well with our beloved GOP. He is still nit saying that his delegates don't have the freedom to play by the rules civilly and nominate him from the floor.
 
SUPPOSEDLY. Remember, it's just a blog.

Thing is, throughout this campaign and the 2008 campaign, Ron has said over and over that he can't control what his supporters do and he doesn't want to control them. He's said to have fun, he's said to spread the message, he's said to have an impact. Now at the last minute, once again BENTON, not Ron, comes out to counter all of that and attempt to shut down enthusiasm. There's no mistaking that the enthusiasm is coming back with the rallies and convention only weeks away and the lawsuit gaining steam. But Benton sure does pop up with his needle to pop the balloon right on time whenever the enthusiasm is growing leading up to big events. Sorry but I stopped listening to BENTON a long time ago. I listen to what Ron himself says. He's been a liability both campaigns and he's clearly padding his own nest in the process and trying to make a name for himself.

"Hey folks see? Im the guy that can kill an opposing populist movement! Hire ME!"
 
How exactly does our delegates acting like bratty 12 year olds at the convention benefit the movement as a whole? We're still in the minority, so we should be on our best behavior and carry ourselves with the same restraint and dignity Ron Paul would himself.

Odd comment. I don't understand hardly any of it. "Restraint" and "dignity" are very different things, as is "best behavior". Ron Paul is anything but restrained. He is dignified while being unrestrained though. That is something our delegates can attain. You can be dignified while kicking the opposition's ass. What's my definition of Best Behavior? Fighting to win. No one went through the long, expensive process of being elected national delegates just to go to Tampa to sit down and shut up and look pretty.
 
which taft? potus taft or his son?

I use Robert Taft as a touchstone. Things are easy to explain from there. Democrats, Republicans who go along with the new deal, and Republicans who didn't go along with the new deal. And Ron Paul is probably more similar to Taft than Goldwater.
 
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