Benton: 'Dr. Paul will not seek to be nominated from the floor.'

[Matt Collins]

Thomas Massie offered up, without any prompt, that he disagrees with Ron on foreign policy, C4L has removed foreign policy as an issue, "End the Fed" is being replaced by "End Net Neutrality," etc.

Cite your sources

 

[Matt Collins]

The fact of the matter is the campaign isn't even doing squat to get the delegates we spent hard time, money, blood, sweat, and tears on to secure.

Huh?? You don't make any sense

 

[paulbot24]

If Ron Paul was so easy to politcally sabotage, we wouldn't be on this forum named after him right now to ponder these odd statements by this campaign manager. He was calling poeple out for being corrupt hacks long before we realized the Fed was not just an abbreviation for our government.

 

[RickyJ]

When?

He hasn't been running for a long time.

If you think he has, the reason for that is probably that Sailingaway has sheltered you from opposing points of view by deleting them from the forum whenever they get posted.

Officially he has still been running, he just scaled back his campaign to focus on winning delegates at conventions. He has never said he has quit the race, not once.

 

[erowe1]

Jesse is Ron's grandson-in-law, and is at his right hand side most of the time. Do you really thinkg Jesse is going to just start going off the reservation? Think it through...

For some people here, NOBP is a religion. Anything contrary to the dogmas of the faith must either be rejected or harmonized to it. If they succeed in training their children according to this faith, then 1,000 years from now their descendants will still enact rituals every 4 years that involve writing in Ron Paul and calling their detractors "quitters."

 

[RickyJ]

If Ron Paul was so easy to politcally sabotage, we wouldn't be on this forum named after him right now to ponder these odd statements by this campaign manager. He was calling poeple out for being corrupt hacks long before we realized the Fed was not just an abbreviation for our government.

What are you trying to say here? That Ron Paul is trying to manipulate us?

 

[erowe1]

Officially he has still been running

According to whom? Not him.

 

[Michigan11]

Officially he has still been running, he just scaled back his campaign to focus on winning delegates at conventions. He has never said he has quit the race, not once.

It's strategy... and yes we are winning. We are taking over the party as well as winning elections and the debate in this country is changing rapidly

 

[wgadget]

And for that matter, did anyone actually see Benton's email that is quoted in the article?

I remember back in 1974 there was an article in the city newspaper about me after having won the regional spelling bee. Well, the reporter came to my house, and being a shy violet, I didn't say a word. You'd be shocked how personable and talkative I turned out to be on the pages of his "fake" story. It was all made up...And at that young age I got a sampling of what the media was about.

So did he REALLY say Dr. Paul wouldn't be seeking nomination from the floor, or is that just the accepted storyline?

 

[trey4sports]

Perhaps Ron wants to go out differently...as in his supporters not making him look like a fool.

Think about it, how STUPID would it be to nominate Ron Paul at what is virtually the Mitt Romney celebration party? Great way to make division.

That is precisely what i've said numerous times. It is time to live with the reality of the situation and move forward.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Thomas Massie offered up, without any prompt, that he disagrees with Ron on foreign policy, C4L has removed foreign policy as an issue, "End the Fed" is being replaced by "End Net Neutrality," etc.

I didn't hear Thomas Massie say that. Do you have a link, perhaps?

I think "End the FED" may have left the wrong impression with some people. Because even Ron doesn't want to end it overnight. He has talked about what that would do to world markets. He wants it to die by itself by giving us the choice of the money we use. So, I don't see the position changing at all. Just tactics. Don't forget that we are still dealing with all the disinformation surrounding our attempt at getting the stupid thing audited.

I don't know what's up with the foreign policy deal. If they are changing the goal, then that will be a problem for me too. Right now, though, I'm guessing they have decided not to use that as the lead. Because a lot of people misunderstand and run away before we have a chance to suck them in on other issues. Like I said, though, if they are dumping it altogether, I will be right with you.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

Wrong.

Liberty was

Quit spouting untruths. Ron was the clear winner this cycle, even if he didn't get elected.

 

[GopBlackList]

It's strategy... and yes we are winning. We are taking over the party as well as winning elections and the debate in this country is changing rapidly

We won't take over the party if don't win general elections. Kurt Bills and Kerry Bentivolio have not been elected by their districts yet. Last time I checked Kurt Bills is trailing behind his Democratic opponent.

 

[trey4sports]

Jesus Christ why does everyone blame Jesse Benton???????


Every major move he does is OK'd by Ron Paul!!!!!!

if you dont like the direction, then blame Ron. Jesse is just the messenger.

 

[Kotin]

Jesus Christ why does everyone blame Jesse Benton???????


Every major move he does is OK'd by Ron Paul!!!!!!

if you dont like the direction, then blame Ron. Jesse is just the messenger.

Yup. This is getting ridiculous.

 

[erowe1]

The campaign does not want to be seen as inciting a ruckus should it come to that, as it would be even more damaging to our efforts.

Who's "us" and what are "our efforts"?

 

[Michigan11]

We won't take over the party if don't win general elections. Kurt Bills and Kerry Bentivolio have not been elected by their districts yet. Last time I checked Kurt Bills is trailing behind his Democratic opponent.

Kurt Bills hasn't even won his primary yet. Kerry Bentivolio and Thomas Massie and Justin Amash have all won their republican primaries in republican districts.

 

[erowe1]

+rep to everyone in this thread who gets that Benton speaks for Ron Paul.

Sorry if I missed anyone.

 

[kill the banks]

keep working to get our people into every position possible ... the big picture is just that ... do not get lost in smaller issues along the way ... we are a force and we are miles ahead of our goals than just a few years ago ... keeps clear mind and strong focus on just that ... get the best advice out to our delegates from the sage of our movement independent from all diversion tactics

 

[trey4sports]

That piece of shit Benton doesn't want Ron to have an unedited speech because he thinks it will hurt his future (and probably current) employer, Rand Paul.

If only I had more neg reps to bestow upon you.