Benton: 'Dr. Paul will not seek to be nominated from the floor.'

[Feeding the Abscess]

I would remind you that early in the campaign, Ron Paul had over 20 percent in national polls. And that doesn't include the people who thought he couldn't win, so they didn't support him for that reason alone. We have grown by leaps and bounds in 4 years. We have liberty people in place now in leadership positions in the GOP in several states. If we would get busy and do that everywhere, getting our candidates elected would be much, much easier. It would make the cheating that we saw go on this time be much harder to do.

We have won a lot of hearts and minds in 4 years and are actually getting some of our candidates elected. And you want to quit now? That makes no sense to me, whatsoever. Especially given that it is only the 2 major parties that get in debates and get any media attention whatsoever. I hate it, but we still have a 2 party system here. We either deal with it strategically, or we will forever be relegated to the sidelines.

The movement has already quit, by moderating the message and separating itself from the more radical Ron Paul proposals and ideas.

 

[erowe1]

I see two possibilities.
One, Ron has been threatened,,or (more likely) the family threatened,, and has backed off.
or Two. he is trusting people that are actively working against him,, while smiling in his face.

Why don't you see the possibility that Ron Paul really doesn't want his supporters to try to nominate him from the floor?

 

[Lightweis]

I don't know that. I don't imagine Ron as a puppet master with his hand up Benton's back and putting words in his mouth.

I honestly wonder how much he is insulated from what is going on around him.

I see two possibilities.
One, Ron has been threatened,,or (more likely) the family threatened,, and has backed off.
or Two. he is trusting people that are actively working against him,, while smiling in his face.

Protecting his wife, children and grandchildren is the only answer that makes logical sense.

OH STOP. Ron Paul does not back down to threats. He's not a pussy.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I don't know that. I don't imagine Ron as a puppet master with his hand up Benton's back and putting words in his mouth.

I honestly wonder how much he is insulated from what is going on around him.

I see two possibilities.
One, Ron has been threatened,,or (more likely) the family threatened,, and has backed off.
or Two. he is trusting people that are actively working against him,, while smiling in his face.

Protecting his wife, children and grandchildren is the only answer that makes logical sense.

Oh, come on. Benton is not going to release something that Ron has not approved. It's just not going to happen.

What I thought was exactly what Christian Anarchist said, but only because of my take on what he said in a recent interview.

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

i just dont know why it seems everything benton says has a negative impact on morale... it could be said in many ways.

"Dr. Paul is still in the race. Our chances of winning is slim to none, but anything can happen."
"Dr. Paul has not withdrew from the race and we hope to get what we can at the convention."
"Dr. Paul will be at the convention and we hope to get the best outcome for all the hard work that the supporters and delegates have done in the last 4 years."

I dont know.. it seems it progresses to a defeatist attitude.
We are gonna kick ass and chew bubblegum.
We still have a chance in upcoming states.
Dr. Paul's chances are slim to none.
If we dont win nomination, we will go for platform change or speaking spot.
We will not seek nomination.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Oh, come on. Benton is not going to release something that Ron has not approved. It's just not going to happen.

What I thought was exactly what Christian Anarchist said, but only because of my take on what he said in a recent interview.

That's actually completely in Ron's style, and what landed him in a lot of hot water right before Iowa.

 

[LibertyEagle]

The movement has already quit, by moderating the message and separating itself from the more radical Ron Paul proposals and ideas.

Huh? What radical Ron Paul proposals and ideas has the movement moderated and separated itself from?

And, maybe you have quit, but a lot of people have not.

 

[LibertyEagle]

That's actually completely in Ron's style, and what landed him in a lot of hot water right before Iowa.

If you are talking about the newsletters, that is a completely different thing than this campaign. They do not equate.

 

[TheGrinch]

Why don't you see the possibility that Ron Paul really doesn't want his supporters to try to nominate him from the floor?

Even that's jumping to a bold conclusion. All that was said was that he's not seeking to be nominated. All that means is that he himself will not be actively lobbying for it. It says nothing about what delegates could/should do, as it should be...

Again, I think plausible deniability is at play here. The campaign does not want to be seen as inciting a ruckus should it come to that, as it would be even more damaging to our efforts.

 

[wgadget]

A SMALL BUT DEDICATED group whom the Romney campaign can't seem to win without.

Huh. Must be pretty dang small, eh?

 

[TrishW]

OK So, don't we already know that Ron Paul is not seeking the nomination? I thought he already made that clear?

But does that mean that he should not be nominated? I don't think so!

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Huh? What radical Ron Paul proposals and ideas has the movement moderated and separated itself from?

Thomas Massie offered up, without any prompt, that he disagrees with Ron on foreign policy, C4L has removed foreign policy as an issue, "End the Fed" is being replaced by "End Net Neutrality," etc.

 

[RickyJ]

Why don't you see the possibility that Ron Paul really doesn't want his supporters to try to nominate him from the floor?

If that is the case then why did he keep running, why did he say on many TV interviews that he wanted to give his speech unedited at the convention? That is why many people have a very difficult time believing that this is what Ron Paul really wants.

 

[TheGrinch]

Huh? What radical Ron Paul proposals and ideas has the movement moderated and separated itself from?

And, maybe you have quit, but a lot of people have not.

Don't even bother with the sharks that come swarming whenever they smell even a drop of blood.

I'd really like to hope that it's just butthurt, but sometimes I really wonder about the intentions of those who sensationalize BS more than the damn media...

 

[twomp]

Thomas Massie offered up, without any prompt, that he disagrees with Ron on foreign policy, C4L has removed foreign policy as an issue, "End the Fed" is being replaced by "End Net Neutrality," etc.

Could you link where Thomas Massie said that? It's not that I don't believe you but more like I'd like proof so that I have a legit reason not to support him anymore.

 

[erowe1]

Thomas Massie offered up, without any prompt, that he disagrees with Ron on foreign policy, C4L has removed foreign policy as an issue, "End the Fed" is being replaced by "End Net Neutrality," etc.

What are you basing the parts about CFL on? I don't get that impression from this.
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/about.php#statement

 

[DGambler]

In regards to us trying to change the party from within, our county Republican apparatus has developed a bunker mentality. We recently found out that they have adopted new bylaws for themselves, arrived at in secret - of course. The substance of these new bylaws is that they supposedly prohibit ANYONE from being eligible for an Executive Board position if they have not already been a member of the Executive Board in the past, have been named a Chairman of a Committee appointed by that board in the past, or have been a member of such a committee.

Basically, it shuts us out... I bet you see this in other counties as well that haven't already been brought to our side.

 

[erowe1]

If that is the case then why did he keep running

When?

He hasn't been running for a long time.

If you think he has, the reason for that is probably that Sailingaway has sheltered you from opposing points of view by deleting them from the forum whenever they get posted.

 

[Matt Collins]

I think we have to wake up the fact that Dr. Paul wasn't in it to win it.

Quit spouting untruths. Ron was the clear winner this cycle, even if he didn't get elected.

 

[Matt Collins]

Sorry Jesse, I don't trust you, I will have to hear that from Ron Paul himself to believe it.

Jesse is Ron's grandson-in-law, and is at his right hand side most of the time. Do you really thinkg Jesse is going to just start going off the reservation? Think it through...