Bentivolio votes YES on debt ceiling deal

OK, according to Massie the leadership wanted this extension so that they could put forth a ten year balanced budget. And he likes many aspects of what will come from this, however in the end he didnt vote for it because he wasn't sure this might continue on and on.

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I know I have been spreading this video around a lot but it is very insightful to what "our guys' are planning.
 
SpreadOfLiberty said:
Well, I don't know about Labrador's Iran stance. It might be similar to Rand Paul's.

I do know he has spoken out against being in Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya, and has co-signed a letter to cut spending from the military. And he is against indefinite detention, internet spying/regulation, and the Patriot Act.

Broun isn't with us on foreign policy(except globalist organizations), though I didn't claim he was. However, he wants to abolish the Fed and is with us on all domestic issus. McClintock is similar to Broun on voting but less activist.

Duncan and Jones are the best on foreign policy, but often lacking domestically (but aren't bad at all).

Based on both foreign and domestic policy I still have to rate Labrador #3, with Amash #1A and Massie #1B. There is a reason Amash voted him in for speaker.

We will have to see on KerryB and find out his true colors, meanwhile Steve Stockman and Ted Yoho are extremely promising and we have a good nucleus growing. Along with the usual allies like Mulvaney, Schweikert, Jordan(Massie is a big fan of his), and Huelskamp.
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Labrador is more like Mike Lee than Rand Paul. Rand Paul's 90-1 vote on pre-emotive war against Iran cemented his strong anti-war stance. Labrador has voted for many bills that would endorse pre-emptive war against Iran, like the Countering Iran in the Western Hemisphere Act.
 
compromise said:
Labrador is more like Mike Lee than Rand Paul. Rand Paul's 90-1 vote on pre-emotive war against Iran cemented his strong anti-war stance. Labrador has voted for many bills that would endorse pre-emptive war against Iran, like the Countering Iran in the Western Hemisphere Act.
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Fair enough.
 
This is the problem with this bill:

Harry Reid - In substance, this is a clean debt limit increase that will set the precedent for future debt ceiling extensions.
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As I am watching, more statements on the bill:

Massie "I am trying to vote yes, but I'm just not there yet."

Amash "I am leaning no but open minded"

Labrador "I am on board with this because I support getting the 10 year plan"

This is NOT an easy vote.

The good guys were split down the middle on what would best get our debt situation solved. They are working together. Focus your anger on the establishment guys instead.
 
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EBounding said:
I think the lesson here is to be cautious of people who have no prior voting record.

I wonder if he thinks this is keeping him safe? It's not. The establishment is still going to primary him. Except now he won't have any grassroots support.
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Congressman Thomas Massie didn't have a voting record, but he has turned out to be one of the greatest reps in D.C...and he voted "no" on this debt ceiling increase! :)
 
supermario21 said:
This was definitely an awkard vote, RINOs voting no, good guys voting yes. And to the above comment, Amash voted Labrador for Speaker and Mulvaney has been an ally of ours endorsed by Tom Davis many times. This was more of a strategic vote than a policy vote. I wish they would have voted no, but let's see how committed they are to cutting spending when that fight inevitably comes.
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THIS! Agree completely. This is just one vote out of what will be many votes on important fiscal issues. But we should encourage those who voted "yes" not to give in next time.
 
The big votes will be coming soon...and this time, we will really be able to differentiate the conservatives from the RINOs.
 
At first blush I am not too happy with Kerry. I am going to hold my final opinion for more info, including his own FB explanation.
 
I am not turning on the guy completely, but I suggest you call him up and express your discontent with his vote. We have to hold his feet to the fire. I believe him to be a decent man, but I think he might be vulnerable to being co-opted:

202-225-8171
 
SpreadOfLiberty said:
OK, according to Massie the leadership wanted this extension so that they could put forth a ten year balanced budget. And he likes many aspects of what will come from this, however in the end he didnt vote for it because he wasn't sure this might continue on and on.
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How does putting forth a ten year balanced budget plan depend on their raising the debt limit?

Are they trying to say that it would take even longer to balance the budget if they didn't raise the debt limit?

And how does a budget 10 years from now have anything to do with this year's Congress anyway?
 
erowe1 said:
How does putting forth a ten year balanced budget plan depend on their raising the debt limit?

Are they trying to say that it would take even longer to balance the budget if they didn't raise the debt limit?

And how does a budget 10 years from now have anything to do with this year's Congress anyway?
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It never happens if it is after the term of those voting on it.
 
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