Ben Carson Should Be Rand's VP Choice.

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I think that would be the way to win the nomination for sure...

 

[timosman]

Jeb Bush would be a better choice.

 

[erowe1]

I like Carson for VP.

But winning the nomination comes first.

 

[acptulsa]

Um, choosing any VP is a sure way to lose the nomination. No one needs a VP but the nominee, and choosing one before becoming the nominee is generally considered presumptuous as all hell by the voting public.

Jeb Bush would be a better choice.

Am I the only one here who is old enough to remember that the last guy who chose a Bush as his running mate bought a bullet? Specifically, a bullet delivered by an old Bush family friend...?

 

[jmdrake]

I like Carson for VP.

But winning the nomination comes first.

^This. Come on folks. Really? Carson right now is ahead of Rand in the polls. Rand saying to him "Hey, why don't you drop out and become my VP" would just be arrogantly stupid. Your VP pick helps you win the general election after you win the nomination. Really, why do we always get this "Ron (now Rand) should pick so and so as VP to win the nomination" comments? Has anyone ever heard of a candidate in single digits in the polls during the primary season staging a come from behind victory based on announcing the "perfect" VP candidate? If so please post reference cause I can't think of one.

 

[jmdrake]

Um, choosing any VP is a sure way to lose the nomination. No one needs a VP but the nominee, and choosing one before becoming the nominee is generally considered presumptuous as all hell by the voting public.



Am I the only one here who is old enough to remember that the last guy who chose a Bush as his running mate bought a bullet? Specifically, a bullet delivered by an old Bush family friend...?

LOL. Nope. And if Rand Paul gets the nomination and picks Jeb Bush, I'll stay home and not vote. Or maybe I'll write in Ron Paul. Good grief where do these suggestions come from?

 

[Mr.NoSmile]

Nomination of what? Loserville? Have we not heard or seen some of the ridiculous things to come from Carson in the past few weeks, things that in particular would cause him to be skewered in a general election?

 

[erowe1]

Nomination of what? Loserville? Have we not heard or seen some of the ridiculous things to come from Carson in the past few weeks, things that in particular would cause him to be skewered in a general election?

Like what?

 

[kbs021]

Carson is okay... He could obviously help with African American vote and he is polling better than others right now against Dems.

 

[Sola_Fide]

I would be OK with that.

 

[Mr.NoSmile]

Like what?

...you're kidding, right? You think people are going to go for and take seriously a guy who says prison makes people gay, equating Obamacare to slavery of all things, claiming he'd been held up at Popeyes and then his campaign saying he's hazy on details, that the Jews could have stopped Hitler if they had more guns...never mind the power structure in Germany at the time.

 

[Sola_Fide]

...you're kidding, right? You think people are going to go for and take seriously a guy who says prison makes people gay, equating Obamacare to slavery of all things, claiming he'd been held up at Popeyes and then his campaign saying he's hazy on details, that the Jews could have stopped Hitler if they had more guns...never mind the power structure in Germany at the time.

What is particularly wrong with any of those statements? (By the way, you misrepresented his gay statement)

 

[erowe1]

...you're kidding, right? You think people are going to go for and take seriously a guy who says prison makes people gay, equating Obamacare to slavery of all things, claiming he'd been held up at Popeyes and then his campaign saying he's hazy on details, that the Jews could have stopped Hitler if they had more guns...never mind the power structure in Germany at the time.

None of those seem like a problem to me. Most of those are more positive than negative as I see it. I don't know anything about the Popeyes thing though.

 

[Mr.NoSmile]

What is particularly wrong with any of those statements? (By the way, you misrepresented his gay statement)

Better question: tell me how they make him look any more electable or appealing in a general election, particularly as a running mate.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Better question: tell me how they make him look any more electable or appealing in a general election, particularly as a running mate.

He was trying to make the point that homosexuality is a sin and a lifestyle choice, which I agree with and the majority of voters most likely agree with as well. I would be fine with homosexuality not being an issue in this election at all, but it is going to be because homosexuals have asserted themselves politically and are changing the legal culture because of it.

Obamacare is slavery.

I don't know much about the Popeyes story or the Hitler comment, but I think the Hitler comment was in regard to having a well armed populace, which is a good thing.

 

[erowe1]

Better question: tell me how they make him look any more electable or appealing in a general election, particularly as a running mate.

The gun one definitely does. More gun control is a losing position. The others may not make him more electable, but they don't hurt either. And he has other points in his favor. Also, it's not just about winning. It's about standing for the right things. If Rand wins the nomination, he could sure do worse than Carson for a running mate.

 

[jmdrake]

...you're kidding, right? You think people are going to go for and take seriously a guy who says prison makes people gay, equating Obamacare to slavery of all things, claiming he'd been held up at Popeyes and then his campaign saying he's hazy on details, that the Jews could have stopped Hitler if they had more guns...never mind the power structure in Germany at the time.

1) Prison gay is a well known phenomenon. Some men, without another outlet, decide to try gay sex when they otherwise would not. Also one effect of male on male rape is men questioning their sexuality. That's because the male g-spot is reached through anal sex. (Haven't tried that but read enough from experts to believe it's true). Further gays aren't as angry at Carson as you think. I have a gay friend that actually likes Ben Carson as a presidential candidate and this person voted for Obama twice but is now soured on Hillary.

2) Ron Paul has equated taxes to slavery. The supreme court ruled that Obamacare was a tax. So from a Ron Paul point of view Obamacare = slavery.

3) According to one prominent Jewish website, the Jews could have stopped Hitler if Zionists Jews hadn't undermined the world wide Jewish boycott of Hitler.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Black.html

Edit: But specifically to the point of "Jews having guns", at some point a whole lot of Germans were disillusioned with Hitler and might have joined them. Further are you aware of the fact that there were pockets of armed Jewish fighters that were able to stay free of the gas chambers for the entire war?

Watch this when you have time. Great movie based on a true story.

 

[cajuncocoa]

The VP selection, should Rand get the nomination, is going to be one of those moments when I may need to scream into a pillow. Because I know the pool from which he'll have to choose this person contains a lot of people I would never want to vote for (like, say, Ben Carson.) Save your breath, I already know he'll have to make concessions, plus there aren't too many (besides Amash and Massie, and he won't choose either of them) who have our same goals in mind. So, if Rand gets close, I'll have that pillow ready. And y'all may have to talk me down a little. You've been warned.

 

[RonPaulMall]

^This. Come on folks. Really? Carson right now is ahead of Rand in the polls. Rand saying to him "Hey, why don't you drop out and become my VP" would just be arrogantly stupid. Your VP pick helps you win the general election after you win the nomination. Really, why do we always get this "Ron (now Rand) should pick so and so as VP to win the nomination" comments? Has anyone ever heard of a candidate in single digits in the polls during the primary season staging a come from behind victory based on announcing the "perfect" VP candidate? If so please post reference cause I can't think of one.

Agree with the general thrust of your statement, but I would disagree about a VP being someone to help you win the general election. That may or may not have been true in the past, but recent thinking on the subject seems to be more along the lines that you pick a VP not to lose the general election. VP's almost never help, but they sometimes hurt (Quayle, Stockdale, Palin) so the key is to pick as bland and boring a choice as possible, hence the last two winning Presidents picking boring old dudes from tiny states that are almost irrelevant in terms of electoral votes.

 

[SilentBull]

That would be a mistake. He's not experienced enough and makes too many mistakes when being interviewed.