Beck was a second away from slamming Rand

All of the worship is making me like them less, and I've always somewhat supported Israel. But this sick fucking joke I see before my eyes, where people are bowing to Israel makes me sick! Last I checked, they're not part of our Republic.

The Israel hatred on here is just as disgusting.
 
My theory is, that to Beck it's all about his Mormon faith. His alcoholism was cured with AA (which is a very religious system, see P&T Bullshit) and Mormonism. Now he thinks every social ill in American can be cured with a similar religions treatment.

Multiple times he pushed Mormon religious ideology as political historical fact (look up his episode on Newark Holy Stones). Beck's promotion of Israel isn't based any any sound political thinking, but on his religious philosophy.

beck may say he understands cutting aid to israel, but he would never promote it...he's in some sort of obsessed state right now and i think it has to do with his mormon faith, atonement or his belief in revelations etc. his message about israel is the center of everything on both shows- someone really got inside his head on his recent travels. as a result he's really alienating his casual listeners...i expect his ratings to plummet.

All of that, and also at least one of Beck's producers is a neo-conservative.
 
The Israel / U.S. alliance came up on a gun forum I frequent the other week ('67 borders), so I asked:

Why should the U.S. support Israel? What is the U.S. reason for the alliance? What do we get for our troubles?

There were only 4 answers given after a couple days and multiple views of the thread, 2 answers by the same person, the answers were:

*1. Israel has really good scientists that work with the U.S.

*2. We have to prevent/stop genocide of the Jewish people -like we did in WWII. (*same person)

3. Because Israel exists -and we don't necessarily have to gain anything from it.

4. Christianity is apt to fall if Israel goes down -Muslims take over.

EDIT: After I countered with a common sense and liberty based approach to prevent genocide, I was accused of being 'for genocide'. Surprise.

Bunkloco
 
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Remember three months ago just before the Patriot Act got reauthorized? All Glenn Beck was talking about is how a Muslim caliphate is going to take over the world. He's with us on a lot of issues but when the time comes to get anything done it seems like he's either missing in action or working against us.
 
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I agree. Its like hating Swedish people because you don't like the Swedish government.

Woah dude.

Most here have a problem with the entangling alliances that we have with Israel. Them in our government, us in theirs.

No significant percentage of RPFer's would proclaim they hate the people of that state.
 
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I thought most of us on here have a distaste for all governments. It's not Jewish people, Israeli people, Muslim people or Arab people I don't like. In fact, in my personal life it's quite the opposite. It's the governments. I don't want to fund any of them. I'd like to befriend all of them, trade with them via private industry and if they'd like to come here to negotiate a peace agreement, that's fine too. But we shouldn't be dictating their policies, bombing their countries/enemies for them or funding their weapons programs.
 
Isn't Israel among the most statist countries in the world?

I have zero problem with privately supporting any country or people, but the use of our tax dollars is only feeding statism which hurts everyone.
 
The Israel hatred on here is just as disgusting.

How is it disgusting? Israel is a national security threat to the United States, and until we solve the Israeli palestinian conflict, Israel will be a liability. I say we because our govt is actively supporting Israel, so we either do the right thing and force Israel to seek true peace (ie stop fooling everyone into thinking they want a 2 state solution, all while ethnically cleansing palestinian lands) or we could adopt non-interventionism.
 
Congress to Palestinians: Drop dead

On Tuesday, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu delivered a speech to Congress that essentially was a series of insults to Palestinians and every insult was met by applause and standing ovations.

In fact, Netanyahu's appearance itself was an insult.

In the entire history of the United States, only four foreign leaders have addressed joint sessions of Congress more than once.

Prime Minister Winston Churchill, America's great ally, addressed Congress three times during World War II. President Nelson Mandela was honored for destroying apartheid and freeing South Africa. Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was recognised for opening negotiations with the Palestinian people.

And now Netanyahu. For what?

In his entire term in office he has done nothing but reject every request by the United States that he take some action (like freezing settlements) to promote Israeli-Palestinian negotiations. In the history of Israel, there has been no prime minister as hardline on Palestinian rights and as indifferent to the wishes of the United States as Netanyahu.

So why was he invited to address a rare joint session?

He was invited because the new Republican leadership of the House of Representatives wanted to demonstrate, loudly and clearly, that Congress will not support President Barak Obama in the event that he tries to achieve an Israeli-Palestinian agreement.

And that is exactly what the Netanyahu appearance today did demonstrate. The prime minister unambiguously stated that he had no intention of making peace with the Palestinians.

He began by saying that, in point of fact, there is no occupation, stating, that "in Judea and Samaria [the term Israeli right-wingers use for the West Bank], Israelis are not foreign occupiers" but the native inhabitants. (He cited Abraham and Isaiah from the Bible!)

Amazing how we have trolls on this forum who support a racist piece of shit like Netanyahoo.
 
The Israel hatred on here is just as disgusting.

They are a racist terror state that actively subverts our government and military to their own benefit. Everyone should hate Israel and Zionists, not Jews. Lots of righteous, courageous Jews out there who speak out against the horrors of that awful, sticking, rotten country.
 
They are a racist terror state that actively subverts our government and military to their own benefit. Everyone should hate Israel and Zionists, not Jews. Lots of righteous, courageous Jews out there who speak out against the horrors of that awful, sticking, rotten country.

They are a product of their environment however. Look outside their borders. They're virtually surrounded by hostile elements.
 
They are a product of their environment however. Look outside their borders. They're virtually surrounded by hostile elements.

A condition they created. And one they continue to aggravate.
 
I agree. Its like hating Swedish people because you don't like the Swedish government.

Not one reply in this thread has addressed individuals from Israel or the broader Jewish people. What's your agenda?

The Israel hatred on here is just as disgusting.

How is it disgusting? They along with our government are amongst the biggest problems facing we the people. Posters here attack Israel with the same fervor that they attack medicaid, regulation, and the Federal Reserve.
 
They are a product of their environment however. Look outside their borders. They're virtually surrounded by hostile elements.

Perhaps you should ask yourself why that is the case? Though I do challenge your assertion of 'hostile elements'. Are you reffering to the multiple arab regimes which we support with our tax money? Or peoples of those nations? It is no secret that Israel has engaged in acts of state terror and ethnic cleansing since its inception, thus blowback is predictable.
 
It's obvious that most of the media, religious nuts and necons are Isreal-firsters, but why do we let foreigners address Congress anyway. This was the same deal when that POS Calderon got up there blaming America for Mexico's problems. They pay more attention to these foreign leaders than American Citizens. End ALL foreign Aid, throw out all foreign interest special interest groups, and follow the Constitution.
 
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