Based on Hersh article, Obama lied about Osama

[Dr.3D]

Obama lied about Bin Laden

Oh Archie, did you hear what he just said?​

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Obama lied about Bin Laden

One word: Elizabeth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID91mi5c0OQ


Enter 2012 Democratic convention chants, stickers and Ts.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/obama-bin-laden/

 

[Dianne]

Guys, Bin Laden was dead immediately after 9/11. Whoever the Seals thought they killed was a look alike. Of course, Obama knows the truth. Just check out any one of these David Frost interviews where in 2007, the Pakistan President says he's dead, and who killed him. Of course, the Pakistan President was assassinated herself, soon after this interview took place.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=david+frost+interview+bin+laden+dead

 

[fr33]

They pulled him or a few of his body parts out of a freezer. That dude was dead years before they said he was.

 

[Marenco]

Great article that talked about the sham of the official story back in 2011...

Osama Bin Laden Pronounced Dead…For the Ninth Time

James Corbett
The Corbett Report
2 May, 2011

When Obama pronounced Osama Bin Laden dead in a televised announcement heard round the world last night, he was at least the ninth major head of state or high-ranking government official to have done so.

Given Bin Laden’s documented kidney problems and consequent need for dialysis, government officials, heads of state and counterterrorism experts have repeatedly opined that Osama Bin Laden has in fact been dead for some time. These assertions are based on Bin Laden’s failing health in late 2001 and visible signs of his deteriorating condition, as well as actual reports of his death from the same time frame.

In July of 2001, Osama Bin Laden was flown to the American Hospital in Dubai for kidney treatment. According to French intelligence sources, he was there met by the local CIA attache. When the agent bragged about his encounter to friends later, he was promptly recalled to Washington.

On the eve of September 11, Osama Bin Laden was staying in a Pakistani military hospital under the watchful eye of Pakistan’s ISI, the Pakistani equivalent of the CIA with deep ties to the American intelligence community.

In October 2001, Bin Laden appeared in a videotape wearing army fatigues and Islamic headdress, looking visibly pale and gaunt. In December of 2001, another videotape was released, this time showing a seriously ill Bin Laden who was seemingly unable to move his left arm.

Then on December 26, 2001, Fox News reported on a Pakistan Observer story that the Afghan Taliban had officially pronounced Osama Bin Laden dead earlier that month. According to the report, he was buried less than 24 hours later in an unmarked grave in accordance with Wahabbist Sunni practices.

What followed was a string of pronouncements from officials affirming what was already obvious: supposedly living in caves and bunkers in the mountainous pass between Afghanistan and Pakistan, Osama would have been deprived of the dialysis equipment that he required to live.

On January 18, 2002, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf announced quite bluntly: “I think now, frankly, he is dead.”

On July 17, 2002, the then-head of counterterrorism at the FBI, Dale Watson, told a conference of law enforcement officials that “I

Osama Bin Laden in December 2001

personally think he [Bin Laden] is probably not with us anymore,” before carefully adding that “I have no evidence to support that.”

In October 2002, Afghan President Hamid Karzai told CNN that “I would come to believe that [Bin Laden] probably is dead.”

In November 2005, Senator Harry Reid revealed that he was told Osama may have died in the Pakistani earthquake of October that year.

In September 2006, French intelligence leaked a report suggesting Osama had died in Pakistan.

On November 2, 2007, former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto told Al-Jazeera’s David Frost that Omar Sheikh had killed Osama Bin Laden.

In March 2009, former US foreign intelligence officer and professor of international relations at Boston University Angelo Codevilla stated: “All the evidence suggests Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama Bin Laden.”

In May 2009, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari confirmed that his “counterparts in the American intelligence agencies” hadn’t heard anything from Bin Laden in seven years and confirmed “I don’t think he’s alive.”

Now in 2011, President Obama has added himself to the mix of people in positions of authority who have pronounced Osama Bin Laden dead. Some might charge that none of the previous reports had any credibility, but as it is now emerging that Osama’s body was buried at sea less than 12 hours after his death with no opportunity for any independent corroboration of his identity, the same question of credibility has to be leveled at this latest charge. To this point, the only evidence we have been provided that Osama Bin Laden was killed yesterday are some images on tv of a burning compound and the word of the man currently occupying the oval office.

But given that an informed consensus has formed around the opinion that Bin Laden died long ago due to kidney failure, will the people of America hold their President to the highest standard in presenting evidence that the person killed was actually Osama Bin Laden, and that he actually died in the way described, or will this pronouncement go unquestioned like so many other deaths in the never ending war of terror?

Stay tuned for more on this story as it develops…

https://www.corbettreport.com/osama-bin-laden-pronounced-dead-for-the-ninth-time/

 

[enhanced_deficit]

No shock there. Everybody is in CYA mode. Obama's approval ratings were so low he needed something big to help...they choose to roll out the already dead Osama Bin Laden to help.

There is enough information out there proving Osama Bin Laden died in December 2001. He died of Marfan's Syndrome.

https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ekAxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=kQ4EAAAAIBAJ&dq=&pg=5240,657115&hl=en

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'Zero Dark Thirty' Will Not Be Shown In Pakistan

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"Zero Dark Thirty' will not screen in Pakistan, as distributors fear inciting the ire of the Pakistani military and terrorist groups. The Guardian...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/obama-bin-laden/

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Guys, Bin Laden was dead immediately after 9/11. Whoever the Seals thought they killed was a look alike. Of course, Obama knows the truth. Just check out any one of these David Frost interviews where in 2007, the Pakistan President says he's dead, and who killed him. Of course, the Pakistan President was assassinated herself, soon after this interview took place.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=david+frost+interview+bin+laden+dead

And that is Benazir Bhutto, a former Prime Minister of Pakistan, who was running for election again.

If there is anyone in this world less trustworthy than Obama, it's a corrupt politician from a nation where lies are the norm.

 

[charrob]

Strong E-Mail Evidence That Bin Laden Died in 2011, Not 2001

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12:39 pm on May 14, 2015

The date of the Judicial Watch article to be quoted is February 10, 2014. The article contains an e-mail sent by U.S. Special Operations Commander, Admiral William McRaven in which he orders that photos of UBL’s remains that have not already been turned over to the CIA be immediately destroyed. If the 2011 operation had been a hoax, would it have gone to such lengths as to concoct an e-mail in advance that was ready to be released when a Freedom of Information request was made? This is highly implausible.

“Judicial Watch announced today that on January 31, 2014, it received documents from the Department of Defense (Pentagon) revealing that within hours of its filing a May 13, 2011, Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit seeking photos of the deceased Osama bin Laden, U.S. Special Operations Commander, Admiral William McRaven ordered his subordinates to ‘destroy’ any photos they may have had ‘immediately.’ Judicial Watch had filed a FOIA request for the photos 11 days earlier.

“The McRaven email, addressed to ‘Gentlemen,’ instructs:

‘One particular item that I want to emphasize is photos; particularly UBLs remains. At this point – all photos should have been turned over to the CIA; if you still have them destroy them immediately or get them to the [redacted].’

“According to the Pentagon documents, McRaven sent his email on ‘Friday, May 13, 2011 5:09 PM.’ The documents do not detail what documents, if any, were destroyed in response to the McRaven directive. The Judicial Watch FOIA lawsuit seeking the documents was filed in the United States Court for the District of Columbia only hours earlier. Judicial Watch also announced the filing at a morning press conference.

“On May 2, Judicial Watch had filed a FOIA request with the Defense Department seeking ‘all photographs and/or video recordings of Usama (Osama) Bin Laden taken during and/or after the U.S. military operation in Pakistan on or about May 1, 2011.’ Federal law contains broad prohibitions against the ‘concealment, removal, or mutilation generally’ of government records.”


Addendum. I’ve been asked a good question: “If Admiral McRaven knew that the pictures of the person murdered in Abbottabad by Special Ops were not of Bin Laden, wouldn’t it stand to reason that he would order them destroyed?”

The answer is “Yes”. The e-mail is not a smoking gun. However, let’s consider what is assumed by the query.

It assumes that possibly compromising fake photos were around and could reveal the hoax. But if there is to be a hoax, why have taken such photos?

Under that logic, which is fear of a hoax discovery, why take pictures at all? And if one took fake pictures, why let any such fake pictures go out of control, even temporarily? Why bother to turn them over to the CIA?

Indeed, if one wants to stage a fake killing of UBL, why bother to have a raid at all? Why not just report that a drone strike somewhere killed UBL? Why assemble so many people who can attest to its being a hoax?

A complex hoax is a very implausible hypothesis because it requires silence and cooperation from so many people.

The best argument for a hoax is that no hard evidence of UBL’s killing in 2011 has ever been presented to the public. Photos are not that hard. What was needed then and now is an independent panel. But as time passes, proof becomes more and more difficult. But this argument is a negative one and has a logical error. It says that because something wasn’t done to prove the case, that the case is false or a hoax. The latter conclusion doesn’t follow from the government’s lapses or decisions to suppress evidence.

 

[charrob]

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[charrob]

Big brou-ha-ha with R. J. Hillhouse accusing Seymour Hersh of plagiarism seems to be resolving


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Logic Escapes the Press. I Did Not Accuse Hersh of Plagiarism

May 16, 2015

I did not call Seymour Hersh a plagiarist. The simple logic I used seems to have escaped much of the press.

If—then, get it?

If what Hersh wrote was fiction, then it was plagiarism. I clearly stated I do not believe what he wrote was fiction. The necessary condition was not triggered. Therefore there is no plagiarism.



If A, then B

Not B

Therefore, not A

My point has been made and this has been far overblown. My bad for not writing something earlier, but I'm way over-committed in my regular life which is far removed from this.

So I didn't get a footnote.

I will not belabor it further.

What’s important is getting to the merits of what Hersh is writing about.

As I’ve said many times. Hersh nailed it. History will again prove him right. Today's Washington Post points out that it has so many times in the past. There is a reason the guy is a legend.

Dr. Hillhouse has run Cuban rum between East and West Berlin, smuggled jewels from the Soviet Union and slipped through some of the world’s tightest borders. From Uzbekistan to Romania, she's been followed, held at gunpoint and interrogated. Foreign governments and others have pitched her for recruitment as a spy. (They failed.) A former professor and Fulbright fellow, Dr. Hillhouse earned her Ph.D. in political science at the University of Michigan. Her latest novel, OUTSOURCED (Forge Books) is about the turf wars between the Pentagon and the CIA and the privatization of national security. Dr. Hillhouse is an expert on national security outsourcing. Her controversial work has twice elicited a formal response by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence--the only times that office has ever publicly responded to the writings of a private citizen. She is a regular media guest and available for interviews.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

A past article explains why GOP should not do impeachment:

[h=1]Republicans dismiss impeachment, say it would ‘martyr’ Obama[/h]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/30/obama-impeachment-would-martyr-president-rally-dem/?page=all